No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE!

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  • sexyjacksparrowsexyjacksparrow Posts: 439Registered Users
    Thanks BB! I'm going to give it a go some stage sooooooon!

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  • mpgirlmpgirl Posts: 1,163Registered Users
    Well.......there's good news and bad news. Curl formation: spectacular. Touchability: fabulous. Frizz prevention, however: on a scale of 1-10, about a 3, and that's with a dew point of 22.

    Drats.

    But I don't know that I used as much as I should have. I felt I used a pretty healthy amount, but I'm going to try again tomorrow and really load it on. I'm also using just the base FSG recipe ... I probably need to mess around with other ingredients to tailor something more specific for my hair type.

    I'm amazed at how many FSG recipes are out there but how few of them recommend using a more substantial amount of flax seeds like BB does. These people must live where there is an average dew point of 1 ... I can't imagine this gel being even remotely effective in places like Florida with using less than what BB recommends.

    I've been making and using this stuff since BB posted her initial success with this recipe. It didn't de-frizz me either until I started to saturate my hair with it. Honestly, my hair is so snotty/gloppy by the time I'm done, it's gross to the touch. But the results are worth it. I'm not using anything on top of it and it keeps it's definition and shape all day:!:
    3b spirals, fine texture, normal porosity, dense
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  • sveetiepiesveetiepie Posts: 209Registered Users
    So does your hair take a long time to dry when you put so much of the Flax seed gel in?

    shoulder length long layered 2b/3a lots of it
    wash: Live Clean shampoo Abba pure curl Mop c hydrating
    cond: suave coconut Goldwell curly twist
    Protein: Redken Extreme Cat
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  • mpgirlmpgirl Posts: 1,163Registered Users
    @sweetiepie No. That's the best part. Once I plop, add a little more if I want, and re-plop, it dries just fine. It's soft and the curls are well defined. I like my hair to have movement. As easy as this is to make and for the cost, it's da' bomb!:hippy2::hippy2:
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    Renpure Organics conditioner/leave-in
    Homemade FSG
    KCCC
    Curl Junkie Stuff
    BRHG


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  • curlykristencurlykristen Posts: 113Registered Users
    I'll throw my 2 cents in here too. I've been using only FSG for the past few weeks, experimenting with the recipe a bit, and it's been great. At first it didn't do much, but now, after I've tweaked it a bit, I can use just that. ONE HAIR PRODUCT, and I have NO FRIZZ! I don't even need a leave in, now that I've added some oil to the FSG. To start with, I use distilled water. I tried tap water, but my water is really soft and has a very high pH. I think that was messing with it's effectiveness. I add honey or agave nectar for hold, some aloe gel for curl enhancement, and a little oil for moisturizing. I love it. Even my hair stylist commented on how good my hair looked last weekend. I gave her the recipe, and she was going to try it this week. And I have a couple of curly friends coming over for FSG making lessons next week! :love5:
    Mostly 3A, some 3B/2C fine-med texture/med porosity/low density

    wash: alternate co-washing with V05 & soap bars
    Rinse out: Rotate TJ's N&S, AOHR, LVPNG, GVP K-Pak, CJ CA Daily Condish
    ACV rinses 2x/wk (high pH water)
    LI: if I use one, it's usually CJ CALI CJ H&B LI, or GDLI
    Styling: FSG with AVG, AN, hemp seed oil & slippery elm (winter only), KCCC, CJ CCCC, CJ SG, CJ AFG, AOMM & BRHG

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  • StruttsWifeStruttsWife Posts: 819Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    mpgirl wrote: »
    I've been making and using this stuff since BB posted her initial success with this recipe. It didn't de-frizz me either until I started to saturate my hair with it. Honestly, my hair is so snotty/gloppy by the time I'm done, it's gross to the touch. But the results are worth it. I'm not using anything on top of it and it keeps it's definition and shape all day:!:
    That's exactly what I'm hoping, MP. I just finished making a ginormous batch of the stuff and I plan on piling it on tomorrow until my hair won't take any more. Which is saying something with this mop of mine ;)
    - Tiffany
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  • CurlayGirlayCurlayGirlay Posts: 240Registered Users
    After hearing how magical this stuff was, I just had to make it last night after my shower. It felt like slime in my hands, and I confess I put very little in.

    This morning I had great curl definition, but alot of frizz. I'll put in alot more next time I use it, and see how it turns out.
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  • BotticelliBabeBotticelliBabe Posts: 1,574Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I honestly think the biggest key to getting FSG to work for you is to really pile it on. I know a lot of people have a hard time getting past the snotty/weird feeling of it, but once you do and you can just keep making yourself put palmful after palmful in your hair, you'll be rewarded with just about the nicest, softest curls you've ever seen come out of your head. *lol*

    SW, I gotta say that I think it's so cool that a stylist (whom I've always thought of as product pushers, to be honest) is willing to try out something as seemingly harebrained as this is. Major kudos.
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  • curlsAboundcurlsAbound Posts: 246Registered Users Curl Novice
    I love the fact that everyone is trying out the recipe and tweaking it. This is so great - a simple homemade recipe and something that so many people are enjoying! I used bottled water to make mine too ... thought it was better than icky tap water (although apparently we have good water here ...). I think I will try adding oil next time too ... what kind did you use, curlykristen?
    2b/3a in Vancouver, Canada
    loving my own homemade Satsuma scented agave spiked FSG
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  • StruttsWifeStruttsWife Posts: 819Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    SW, I gotta say that I think it's so cool that a stylist (whom I've always thought of as product pushers, to be honest) is willing to try out something as seemingly harebrained as this is. Major kudos.
    That's sweet, BB. I'm not much of a product pusher, actually, since I've always believed not every product line works for every person. I care more that my clients follow the guidelines of good vs. bad product ingredients for their particular hair type than I care about what brand they actually use. If Suave Naturals and LA Sports Gel (or FSG, for that matter) are what gives a curly girl red carpet curls, then I believe she should rock it for all its worth :)

    Plus, I am a complete dork...I'll try just about anything, no matter how kooky it sounds. Well, I might draw the line at sticking intestines or something equally disgusting in my hair, but other than that...I'm there ;)
    - Tiffany
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    SW isn't like most stylists, I really think she needs to fly out to the Boston area for the day and cut all of the North East curlies!!!!!! :toothy4:
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  • StruttsWifeStruttsWife Posts: 819Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Boston in February? Are you mad? How about July? ;)

    Okay, round two. I have so much FSG in my hair, it is totally slimy. So let's see how it does today. I will be doing hair from 9-5 without a break, so maybe asking for no frizz at all under those conditions is a little much...but we shall see. I'm staying optimistic :thumright:
    - Tiffany
    Hair Stylist and Curly Hair Specialist - St. Petersburg, FL (Tampa Bay)

    Blog: Live Curly, Live Free
    Facebook fan page: Live Curly Live Free

    Sulfate- and non-water soluble silicone-free since 04/22/2002
    3B, brunette: medium texture, low porosity, high density

  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Boston in February? Are you mad? How about July? ;)

    Okay, round two. I have so much FSG in my hair, it is totally slimy. So let's see how it does today. I will be doing hair from 9-5 without a break, so maybe asking for no frizz at all under those conditions is a little much...but we shall see. I'm staying optimistic :thumright:
    YES I'm most certainly MAD this weather is doing a number on my hair! But hey you want to come out in July sounds good to me ;)

    Good Luck with the FSG!
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  • eweniqueewenique Posts: 1,502Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Okay, so I had to make this, too. I used a mix of the dark and light flax seeds. There is a difference with tap water and purified water. Purified/distilled is better. Tap water made the gel darker and cloudier - probably from the impurities in the hard city water.

    The first time I tried the gel after a leave-in. Scrunched in maybe an ounce of FSG (which had a bit of mag.sulfate and agave added). The curls became progressively frizzy as the day went by, but not too terrible since I still got decent 2nd day hair.

    The next time I tried the FSG, I globbed and brushed in about 2 oz. since that seems to be the secret - globbing it on until it feels slimy. (Could this be similar to the "seaweed" feeling during conditioning?) Wow, what a difference! It was veerrry crunchy, but once that was scrunched out, the curls were the best ever for my hair, defined, no frizz, and I had great 2nd day hair. I've made another batch to try and added some aloe vera juice. We'll see how that turns out. Homemade FSG looks like a keeper! Thanks to everyone for sharing their results, and way to go, BotticelliBabe, for perfecting the recipe!
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  • CBETHCBETH Posts: 23Registered Users
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  • curlykristencurlykristen Posts: 113Registered Users
    i'm planning on trying this flaxseed gel recipe this week. before i tried it though, i had a few questions:

    do you think it would work if i added a bit of jojoba oil and a few drops of some EO for scent?

    also, does this stuff do good 2nd day hair, and how does it handle diffuser-drying? i don't always have time for air-dry before my 7:30am class!

    and ARE YOU SURE it doesn't weigh down even fine hair? because everyine is saying to use ALOT of it.

    thanks!!

    Hi -

    I've made it with jojoba oil, and EO and it works great. I don't often get 2nd day hair, but I have with this stuff. And I'm SURE it doesn't weigh down my fine hair, even when I put in lots of it. I've been doing it everyday, and I have the best curls I've ever had!
    Mostly 3A, some 3B/2C fine-med texture/med porosity/low density

    wash: alternate co-washing with V05 & soap bars
    Rinse out: Rotate TJ's N&S, AOHR, LVPNG, GVP K-Pak, CJ CA Daily Condish
    ACV rinses 2x/wk (high pH water)
    LI: if I use one, it's usually CJ CALI CJ H&B LI, or GDLI
    Styling: FSG with AVG, AN, hemp seed oil & slippery elm (winter only), KCCC, CJ CCCC, CJ SG, CJ AFG, AOMM & BRHG

    Currently experimenting w/DM Miracurls CG & MM
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You may want to choose an EO with "antiseptic" qualities. I put some Lavendar EO and a little citric acid in mine--natural preservatives. It's lasted two weeks out of the refrigerator and still smells fine. Other antiseptic EOs are rose, clove and rosemary. I know you want to do it for scent, but it doesn't hurt if it preserves it, too!
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  • curlydoc_stlcurlydoc_stl Posts: 9Registered Users
    My turn to chime in! I'm totally new to all of this (only modified CG for 1 month), and it was so easy to make, and it turned out right! I've used it twice now (only wash every 2-3 days), and it's awesome stuff!! But I wonder if I've been using enough--ewenique's hair is only an inch or so longer than mine, and I didn't use anywhere NEAR 2 oz! Mine is still crunchy when it dries, but SOTC is easy. I've gotten lots of comments on my hair recently, too! And I looooooove how cheap it is! I'm going to try my next batch with some mag sulfate, to see if it makes me curlier.
    :wav:
    Currently using:
    Low-poo: TJ Nourish, AO moisture poo
    Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
    Rinse out/leave in: LVPNG, TJ Nourish
    Style: homemade FSG, plop, pixie curl, air dry
  • curlydoc_stlcurlydoc_stl Posts: 9Registered Users
    Does FSG hold well in higher humidity/dew points also? We had a rainy day here, and my hair is a little frizzier today, but maybe I just need to use more.
    Currently using:
    Low-poo: TJ Nourish, AO moisture poo
    Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
    Rinse out/leave in: LVPNG, TJ Nourish
    Style: homemade FSG, plop, pixie curl, air dry
  • LouisianaLeighLouisianaLeigh Posts: 211Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    You may want to choose an EO with "antiseptic" qualities. I put some Lavendar EO and a little citric acid in mine--natural preservatives. It's lasted two weeks out of the refrigerator and still smells fine. Other antiseptic EOs are rose, clove and rosemary. I know you want to do it for scent, but it doesn't hurt if it preserves it, too!

    earlier you had mentioned a ratio of about 6 drops/oz for grapefruit seed oil as a perservative. would you need a similar ratio of one of these EOs for that purpose? or would it be better to use grapefruit seed in that amount as the main preservative and one of the above to scent preference, just as added bonus on the preservative side?

    thanks!
    wurly, fine to medium, currently growing for waist-length
    embracing the waves since 10/20/08
    my hair loves protein and hates jojoba oil, my scalp hates propylene glycol, my face hates silicones.
  • cluelessaboutcurlscluelessaboutcurls Posts: 20Registered Users
    BB you are my hero! I just started CG and made my first batch about an hour ago following your directions. It was so easy to make. I added a bit of honey, FOTE(liquid), citric acid, and a touch of KY. My hair is up in a ponytail so I used a bit on my long bangs to test it out. And OMG, I cannot wait to shower in the morning and see how my hair turns out!!!
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    condition: Biomatrix Conditioning Balm (Suave knockoff) do not fully rinse
    Products: perfecting my aloe juice flax seed gel formula

  • StruttsWifeStruttsWife Posts: 819Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I think I'm going to have to play around with it a bit more since I had the same issues with my second try as my first :( On Saturday, I had to scrunch a bunch of Set It Free! into my hair and then use some hair spray (ugh!) to calm my hair back down by mid-morning.

    I need to make one thing clear because I do think the FSG is some GREAT stuff: as a hairdresser, I labor under really brutal conditions for the typical curly girl. My head is over steamy water shampoo sinks and around hot blow-dryers, etc. for hours at a time...not the type of environment most curly girls live in (unless you are outside 24/7 in Florida in July).

    Because of that, I typically have to use a ton more products in my hair when I am Tiffany the Hairdresser as opposed to when I am Tiffany the Home Girl...so, in retrospect, I don't know that it is quite fair to test the FSG under my work conditions only.

    Keep it rocking, girls...I am thrilled this is working for so many of you :thumright:
    - Tiffany
    Hair Stylist and Curly Hair Specialist - St. Petersburg, FL (Tampa Bay)

    Blog: Live Curly, Live Free
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    FSG alone does not work for me. I like it as a curl enhancer but still need more hold on top. When the humidity returns I will play around with it and add more Honey and Agave for extra hold. I'm still not sure how I feel about the Oils and Mag sulphate to counteract it. My hair has been quite a mess lately using it so I stopped did some extra DT's and it bounced back. I absolutely can not use Honey in these low dew points.
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  • sveetiepiesveetiepie Posts: 209Registered Users
    Just a couple of questions..How much honey/agave do you put in for a standard batch?(1 cup water to 1/4 c flax).
    Do you have to wait until completely cooled?
    If I wanted to add Magnesium do I add it after boiling?
    Thanks!

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    wash: Live Clean shampoo Abba pure curl Mop c hydrating
    cond: suave coconut Goldwell curly twist
    Protein: Redken Extreme Cat
    style: Ag:recoil Deva Mist-er right
  • curlykristencurlykristen Posts: 113Registered Users
    sveetiepie wrote: »
    Just a couple of questions..How much honey/agave do you put in for a standard batch?(1 cup water to 1/4 c flax).
    Do you have to wait until completely cooled?
    If I wanted to add Magnesium do I add it after boiling?
    Thanks!

    I've been adding between 1/4 and 1/2 tsp of honey or agave. I can handle a little more of the agave than the honey it seems. I add it right after I strain the seeds out, while it's still really hot, and whisk it all together.

    And I usually add the mag sulfate to the water when I boil the seeds. I found it's less drying (for my hair at least) than if I add it to the gel after I strain it.
    Mostly 3A, some 3B/2C fine-med texture/med porosity/low density

    wash: alternate co-washing with V05 & soap bars
    Rinse out: Rotate TJ's N&S, AOHR, LVPNG, GVP K-Pak, CJ CA Daily Condish
    ACV rinses 2x/wk (high pH water)
    LI: if I use one, it's usually CJ CALI CJ H&B LI, or GDLI
    Styling: FSG with AVG, AN, hemp seed oil & slippery elm (winter only), KCCC, CJ CCCC, CJ SG, CJ AFG, AOMM & BRHG

    Currently experimenting w/DM Miracurls CG & MM
  • LouisianaLeighLouisianaLeigh Posts: 211Registered Users
    so i whipped up a batch of the standard FSG (no additions except some grapeseed oil) this morning. actually i had to make two because i let the first one go too long and it wouldn't strain, yikes! round two came out perfectly--like egg whites in a bottle, with a golden hint. so far so good.

    co-washed and used a rinse-out that doesn't usually require a leave-in after, since BB had recommended using this without a leave-in as it's pretty moisturizing. i decided to try it alone as a styler, just to see what it does on its own. when i went to rake it through, though, it made my hair squeak!

    i quickly added a bit of my creamiest leave-in (bioinfusion) and the squeaking mostly stopped. but i was just wondering if anyone else has had that happen? if so (or even if not, if you have an idea) do you know what that's about?

    thanks!
    wurly, fine to medium, currently growing for waist-length
    embracing the waves since 10/20/08
    my hair loves protein and hates jojoba oil, my scalp hates propylene glycol, my face hates silicones.
  • CBETHCBETH Posts: 23Registered Users
    i finally tried it, and i think i cooked it a little bit too long, because when i tried it the next morning, it was really hard to get through my hair. it wanted to stay all in one glob. : /. but i shook it up a lot and added some warm water and it worked way better.

    i had no crunch, and a little frizz, but nothing i can't handle. YAY!

    my only problem was that it didnt give me any hold really on the top. i kind of had the "a-frame" head going on. (my hair is about 3a, a little past my shoulders, and very fine...so i guess that's to be expected.)

    any ideas to give it more hold? i made the original recipe, only plau a little jojoba.

    thanks!
  • namom3namom3 Posts: 40Registered Users
    As far as amounts go-I put a "nickel size" amount in 4 sections of my hair (it's up to my BSL) for even distribution of the gel. What has been you ladies experiences with adding honey to the FSG? that will be my next kitchen concoction I suppose! The attached pic is my hair 8 hours after putting the gel on--no wet-look, or crunch-just how I like it!
    No: heating tools, sulfates, cones, parabens
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    DC: olive or almond oil with EO rosemary
    Style: Homemade flaxseed gel with aloe vera juice, epsom salt, and EO rosemary and lavender. Exploring various conditioners to use with the tightly curly method
    Want to try: adding different EO's to HFSG, growing out hair
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  • eche428eche428 Posts: 2,782Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    ...I decided to try it alone as a styler, just to see what it does on its own. when i went to rake it through, though, it made my hair squeak!

    i quickly added a bit of my creamiest leave-in (bioinfusion) and the squeaking mostly stopped. but i was just wondering if anyone else has had that happen? if so (or even if not, if you have an idea) do you know what that's about?...

    I have that happen too. I can't use this without a leave-in and have tried twice with no luck. But I can use my co-wash as a leave-in. I have no idea why this would happen though.
    namom3 wrote: »
    As far as amounts go-I put a "nickel size" amount in 4 sections of my hair (it's up to my BSL) for even distribution of the gel. What has been you ladies experiences with adding honey to the FSG? that will be my next kitchen concoction I suppose! The attached pic is my hair 8 hours after putting the gel on--no wet-look, or crunch-just how I like it!

    I LOVE honey in this stuff. I used to use honey in a rinse I learned from DEL2C but had to stop when the dew point got low. However I've been putting about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp in my FSG and my hair loves it. I get great hold and don't have to use any other gel over the FSG. I hope this stuff works for me for summer too.
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    [FONT=&quot]Summer: (high dew point) co-wash [FONT=&quot]& leave-in [/FONT]Matrix Biolage Cleansing Conditioner for Curly Hair[FONT=&quot]. [/FONT]Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity Gel.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Spring and Fall: (perfect dew point) co-wash & leave-in Curl Junkie Repair Me! or [FONT=&quot]CJ [/FONT]BeautiCurls Strengthening Hair Conditioner; f[FONT=&quot]ollo[/FONT]wed by [FONT=&quot]CJ Pattern Pusha & [/FONT]Curl Queen.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot] W[/FONT]inter: (low dew point) add in [FONT=&quot]CJ [/FONT]Coffee-Coco Curl Creme Lite[FONT=&quot].[/FONT][/FONT]
  • LouisianaLeighLouisianaLeigh Posts: 211Registered Users
    eche428, I'm glad to know it's not just me. It's certainly no problem for me to pair it with a leave-in...it was just so shockingly horriblly squeaky! LOVED the dry results, though, so i think the finished product is a keeper.
    wurly, fine to medium, currently growing for waist-length
    embracing the waves since 10/20/08
    my hair loves protein and hates jojoba oil, my scalp hates propylene glycol, my face hates silicones.

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