389 Years Ago...

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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Registered Users Posts: 4,812
    That made me well up more than once. I almost burst into tears at the end.

    I'm so proud of the progress we've made. It gives me hope for making the rest of the progress we need to make.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    Springcurl wrote: »


    It's been a long painful road. I expect "first" will be a lot closer together now. Perhaps at some point we will run out of firsts. :)
  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Registered Users Posts: 8,002
    Springcurl wrote: »


    It's been a long painful road. I expect "first" will be a lot closer together now. Perhaps at some point we will run out of firsts. :)

    I think you are right.
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  • YolyCYolyC Registered Users Posts: 3,758
    That made me well up more than once. I almost burst into tears at the end.

    I'm so proud of the progress we've made. It gives me hope for making the rest of the progress we need to make.

    ITA.

    I'll add 1983. Chicago elected it's first African American Mayor. Harold Washington.


    Reading through the link made me sad though. Sad because 389 years is not that far back. Some consequences are still felt today. Yet, there are people who say blacks are living in the past and can't let go.
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  • geminigemini Registered Users Posts: 3,325
    Even just the things in this past century--not so long ago. Not long enough that everyone's thinking has evolved with the changes.

    Yes, we have a black president-elect, but the very fact that our elected representatives as a whole do not reflect the population of our country (I'm talking about women here too) means we still have a long way to go.

    This election was a huge step forward though!
  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Registered Users Posts: 409
    This is very nice.
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  • AmandacurlsAmandacurls Registered Users Posts: 6,252 Curl Neophyte
    I honestly had never heard of the Tuskegee Syphillis experiment until I saw that list and I googled it. That is awful and atrocious, frankly there are no words. I had no idea. That makes me very sad.
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  • Koukla72Koukla72 Registered Users Posts: 1,680
    To see that put together in that way was beautiful and sobering at th same time. Thanks. :)
    I honestly had never heard of the Tuskegee Syphillis experiment until I saw that list and I googled it. That is awful and atrocious, frankly there are no words. I had no idea. That makes me very sad.

    It makes you sad that it happened, or that you didn't know? I'm just curious, because when I hear people who aren't toooo much younger than I am ;) say they didn't know about things like that I feel conflicted about it.

    I'm just barely at the right age where I remember the seventies and the race-consciousness that bled into it from the tail end of the sixties, and I got many lessons of these events in school because of it. It bothers me a little to realize that people who are younger aren't getting what I see as basic knowledge of things that still seems to me to be so pertinent to present and future issues. I wonder how we can ever move completely forward if so many people aren't even aware of some of the basis or the nuances of the issues that still plague us. And that makes me sad and worried.

    But then on the other hand, the thought that there could be people out there that truly have no idea, and for whom the concept of such extreme levels of racism and its ramifications are so alien as for it to be just something about history that you google one night after stumbling across it is, uh, inspiring? Because maybe the day that knowing about these things isn't needed and we're all amazed to find out humans did these horrible things to each other (rather than just the possible reflection of a less than stellar school budget ;) ) could be closer than we think? I don't know.

    I'm torn between believing people should alway make sure to teach the disturbing details of things like the holocaust and slavery and racism because humanity's dark side will never disappear and we must guard against it with knowledge of it, and wishing we could go far enough that it really is all as academic as ancient history that no one needs to be very invested in, because we're all so far past it. :?
  • RheannaRheanna Registered Users Posts: 2,614
    Koukla72 wrote: »
    To see that put together in that way was beautiful and sobering at th same time. Thanks. :)
    I honestly had never heard of the Tuskegee Syphillis experiment until I saw that list and I googled it. That is awful and atrocious, frankly there are no words. I had no idea. That makes me very sad.

    I'm torn between believing people should alway make sure to teach the disturbing details of things like the holocaust and slavery and racism because humanity's dark side will never disappear and we must guard against it with knowledge of it, and wishing we could go far enough that it really is all as academic as ancient history that no one needs to be very invested in, because we're all so far past it. :?

    I know what you mean, but I think we have to continue to teach these things. Our history is important, even when it's painful. People need and deserve to know, and you're right - humanity has a dark side and it won't disappear. Maybe I'm pessimist, but I don't think racism will ever disappear. We had this discussion at work Thursday. My coworker said racism was "dead" and I said it wasn't. I think the institutionalized is mostly dead, thank God, but as far as individuals - no. But I don't think it will be, ever. You can't change everyone's hearts and minds, and sadly, the more steps we take as a nation toward ridding ourselves of these problems, the more some individuals will hate people of other races, ya know? I hope that makes sense...

    As far as on topic - I loved that. It was great. Even though I am conservative and didn't vote for Obama, I think the fact that we have a Black President is pretty freakin' cool. Who would have thought? I would prefer a Black President that I agree with more, but still, it's awesome just because we wouldn't have thought it would be possible when just 40-50 years ago, he wouldn't have been able to drink from the same water fountain. And now he can, and will, hold the highest office in the country.

    I think there was people who didn't really agree with him, who voted for him simply because he was Black. I think that's wrong, but I also think it is wrong that a lot of people DID and DO agree with his policies, but wouldn't vote for him for the same reason - because of his skin color. So I figure that evened out. Both are wrong, and I think some of each happened. The end result of having our first Black president is still cool, and I say that as someone who has a problem with almost all of his policies. ;)

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  • Myradella3Myradella3 Registered Users Posts: 2,481
    I'm 50 years old. I was born in small segregated hospital in the south. I had trouble in birth canal so forceps were needed. The metal forceps left scars on my face, a couple of which are visible to this day. The physician (he was Jewish) was furious because the 'white only' hospital had plastic forceps that would not have hurt me like that. He and other physicians then began to work to get the hospitals to integrate. It took three years.

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  • AmandacurlsAmandacurls Registered Users Posts: 6,252 Curl Neophyte
    Koukla72 wrote: »
    To see that put together in that way was beautiful and sobering at th same time. Thanks. :)
    I honestly had never heard of the Tuskegee Syphillis experiment until I saw that list and I googled it. That is awful and atrocious, frankly there are no words. I had no idea. That makes me very sad.

    It makes you sad that it happened, or that you didn't know? I'm just curious, because when I hear people who aren't toooo much younger than I am ;) say they didn't know about things like that I feel conflicted about it.

    I'm just barely at the right age where I remember the seventies and the race-consciousness that bled into it from the tail end of the sixties, and I got many lessons of these events in school because of it. It bothers me a little to realize that people who are younger aren't getting what I see as basic knowledge of things that still seems to me to be so pertinent to present and future issues. I wonder how we can ever move completely forward if so many people aren't even aware of some of the basis or the nuances of the issues that still plague us. And that makes me sad and worried.

    But then on the other hand, the thought that there could be people out there that truly have no idea, and for whom the concept of such extreme levels of racism and its ramifications are so alien as for it to be just something about history that you google one night after stumbling across it is, uh, inspiring? Because maybe the day that knowing about these things isn't needed and we're all amazed to find out humans did these horrible things to each other (rather than just the possible reflection of a less than stellar school budget ;) ) could be closer than we think? I don't know.

    I'm torn between believing people should alway make sure to teach the disturbing details of things like the holocaust and slavery and racism because humanity's dark side will never disappear and we must guard against it with knowledge of it, and wishing we could go far enough that it really is all as academic as ancient history that no one needs to be very invested in, because we're all so far past it. :?

    Sad because it happened, and upset that I didn't know about it. I'm 26 I have no clue why it wasn't mentioned in school. I'm also appalled because some of the things that did go on, I had no idea that there were humans that would treat other humans that way. I still have a hard time processing those things because people shouldn't be capable of it.
  • .patience..patience. Registered Users Posts: 537
    Sad because it happened, and upset that I didn't know about it. I'm 26 I have no clue why it wasn't mentioned in school. I'm also appalled because some of the things that did go on, I had no idea that there were humans that would treat other humans that way. I still have a hard time processing those things because people shouldn't be capable of it.

    you're so right, people shouldn't be capable of doing such horrendous things. however, there was a time when African Americans weren't even consider as humans, but property. so, i guess that's how some people were able to distance themselves and be convinced that treating A.A. like that was okay.
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Registered Users Posts: 15,402 Curl Neophyte
    they forgot
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    Tom Bradley
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  • curlyarcacurlyarca Registered Users Posts: 8,449 Curl Connoisseur
    I honestly had never heard of the Tuskegee Syphillis experiment until I saw that list and I googled it. That is awful and atrocious, frankly there are no words. I had no idea. That makes me very sad.


    This is exactly why some people in the black community don't trust doctors, the government, believe that the US government planted drugs in the black community, believe that the US government created AIDS to eradicate blacks, etc.

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  • TrenellTrenell Registered Users Posts: 3,562 Curl Connoisseur
    curlyarca wrote: »
    I honestly had never heard of the Tuskegee Syphillis experiment until I saw that list and I googled it. That is awful and atrocious, frankly there are no words. I had no idea. That makes me very sad.


    This is exactly why some people in the black community don't trust doctors, the government, believe that the US government planted drugs in the black community, believe that the US government created AIDS to eradicate blacks, etc.

    Yup. I was going to write about blacks not trusting doctors.

    RE:Gov created AIDS. I don't BELIEVE it, but I wouldn't be shocked to find out that it's true...

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