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No dog racing but you can have an ounce of Pot in MA

xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
Well, we will no longer have dog racing in the State of Mass but we can have an ounce of pot in our possession and just get a fine. Sometimes how people vote crack me up. I am not judging here but can you see someone in the voting booth going - They are soo mean to the dogs but sure - let them have their pot. It just seems contradictory to me but that is my weird thought process.
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Sounds about right to me....
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Me too. Dog racing is cruel to the animals and brings in a bad gambling element, and I don't like to see court systems and jails clogged up with people who smoke dried out weeds.
  • curlyarcacurlyarca Posts: 8,449Registered Users
    LOL

    I actually think that's pretty awesome.

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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Me too. Dog racing is cruel to the animals and brings in a bad gambling element, and I don't like to see court systems and jails clogged up with people who smoke dried out weeds.


    So does horse racing but they must have better lobbyists in this state because that was not on the ballot.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    Me too. Dog racing is cruel to the animals and brings in a bad gambling element, and I don't like to see court systems and jails clogged up with people who smoke dried out weeds.


    So does horse racing but they must have better lobbyists in this state because that was not on the ballot.


    I agree with you.
  • MizKerriMizKerri Posts: 1,701Registered Users
    It makes sense to me. I have no problem with decriminalizing mj - seems like a waste of resources. I'm also glad that dog racing is banned and I would love to see the same happen to horse racing, but I'm doubtful.
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    I have to say that I would imagine the people selling those 'ounces' of pot to people also bring a bad element in. I could really care less about either but in my head they seem a bit contradictory to me.
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  • MizKerriMizKerri Posts: 1,701Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    I have to say that I would imagine the people selling those 'ounces' of pot to people also bring a bad element in. I could really care less about either but in my head they seem a bit contradictory to me.

    I can see where you are coming from, xcptnl. I think about that too. I wonder what percentage of dealers also sell other drugs, esp. hardcore ones like heroin. If it were strictly pot, I don't think I'd care so much. But I get the feeling that most dealers probably are involved with a number of more dangerous drugs. And it is that stuff I want to see gone most of all.
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.

    This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.

    This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.

    I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.
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    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    My perspective is a little outdated (but only by 10 years or so) but my experience is that people who sell pot only sell pot. People who're making the kind of money you make dealing harder drugs aren't interested in pot.

    This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.

    I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.

    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    I believe there are studies that show pot use leads to use of other drugs. I wonder if the pot smokers will be sad that they cannot gamble. :)
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    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • mycolorfulheartmycolorfulheart Posts: 158Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »

    This is true. To make major bucks in the pot game, you have to move kilo's. The repercussions for dealing weed is much more stringent than the consequences for dealing most other (not all) hard drugs, oddly enough. Most won't risk their freedom for small change.

    I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.

    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.

    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.
  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »

    I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.

    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.

    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.

    But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • mycolorfulheartmycolorfulheart Posts: 158Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »

    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.

    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.

    But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?

    (I don't drive.) I've never heard that before, if it's true it's totally whack. You can't pick up a bottle of wine with your grocery shopping? Or if it's in the trunk it's okay maybe? I can see why beer open in the cupholder would be a problem. Strange!
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »

    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.

    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.

    But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?

    I think you must be mistaken on this, though if you have a source to cite I'd love to see it.

    It's true that you haven't have open containers in your car. But of course you can have it in the car, since many states won't allow alcohol to be shipped to residential addresses. So how would people get it if they couldn't go get it at the store and drive it home?

    But open containers, yes. And I suspect it would still be a problem if you were caught smoking a joint behind the wheel. But simply have pot in the car-- in a baggie in your glove box, for instance, because that seems pretty equivalent to having a six pack (all sealed up) on the floor of the passenger seat-- I don't see why that should be a crime.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »

    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.

    But in most states you cannot have alcohol in your car. It's a fast way to end up at the jail with your license ripped up taking a breathalyzer test. But you can have an ounce of pot in your car and just get fined?

    I think you must be mistaken on this, though if you have a source to cite I'd love to see it.

    It's true that you haven't have open containers in your car. But of course you can have it in the car, since many states won't allow alcohol to be shipped to residential addresses. So how would people get it if they couldn't go get it at the store and drive it home?

    But open containers, yes. And I suspect it would still be a problem if you were caught smoking a joint behind the wheel. But simply have pot in the car-- in a baggie in your glove box, for instance, because that seems pretty equivalent to having a six pack (all sealed up) on the floor of the passenger seat-- I don't see why that should be a crime.

    That is what I meant. I dunno about this nor do I really care since I don't smoke pot.

    Just a wacky vote IMO.
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    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • KookyCurlKookyCurl Posts: 1,980Registered Users
    It helps ensure that those who have marijuana for medical purposes don't end up being labeled dealers without having to confront the whole issue of "medical marijuana." Nobody really wants to jail glaucoma and cancer sufferers for only trying to find some relief.

    Also federal laws concerning drugs trump local laws but in the case of marijuana the feds tend to let the locals handle it their own way.
  • MizKerriMizKerri Posts: 1,701Registered Users
    For me, dog racing was less about gambling problems and more about mistreatment of/cruelty to dogs. That's the main reason I'm glad to see it banned.

    Also, glad to hear that most sellers of pot are not likely to be big time drug dealers. I really have no issue with it even being legalized, but I'd want to see it regulated the same way alcohol is.
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.

    Depends on what kind you're smokin..... (te he he:laughing6:)
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.

    And random runs to the nearest white castle... think harold and kumar! Good times!
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  • southrncurlssouthrncurls Posts: 152Registered Users
    In my opinion they are both bad. But what do I know I'm a non-pot smoking animal rights advocate.
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  • ursulaursula Posts: 1,461Registered Users
    Well, I voted for both (the decriminalization question and the banning-dog-races question). Like others have said, I voted for the former because I don't want to see taxpayers' money--especially with the economy as it is now--wasted on prosecuting and jailing those caught with one ounce of pot, and the latter because I don't support cruelty against animals. I really don't understand what's weird about this, and I was very glad to see both questions pass. In fact, all three questions went exactly as I hoped.

    Believe me, anyone caught driving while intoxicated--by either alcohol or marijuana--will get in trouble. That's an entirely separate issue.
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  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,175Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »

    I understand. But it's still not the element of people you want as someone was saying that gambling brings in an element you don't want. As I noted - there is bad to both sides so it just one of those things that made me go hmmmm. No dogs but pot is OK.

    I suppose I can see what you're saying, I just view it differently. In my experience, marijuana doesn't really come with a really sketchy element. It comes with video games.

    To me pot is about the same level as alcohol. It just smells worse, lol.

    I agree, but I like the smell :).
  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    Josephine wrote: »
    I agree, but I like the smell :).

    Here here Josephine!
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  • yagottaloveyacurlsyagottaloveyacurls Posts: 5,766Registered Users
    Weed shouldn't be illegal.
    and that's all I'm going to say about that.
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  • mailgirlmailgirl Posts: 451Registered Users
    After reading some of the other political posts I feel like going to MA to smoke some pot!!!!!
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  • Oregano  (formerly babywavy)Oregano (formerly babywavy) Posts: 5,297Registered Users
    WHOA.


    FIRST of all, it is not LEGAL to have an ounce of pot in Massachusetts. The law has been voted to decriminalize anything under an ounce. What this means is that rather than hauling someone off to jail, into the court system, and having them forever carry a criminal record for getting caught with a joint on them - the cop writes a ticket, and the money goes to the state. Thank you very much. I assure you that on average, someone carrying under an ounce of pot is not planning on distributing it.

    I would also like to state that even countries where marijuana is legal, it is not legal to SELL it. Thereby omitting the legality of slinging to kids on the street.

    MOST people do not hang around on the street looking for little kids to pawn off pot on. People who sell marijuana do not have a hard time looking for buyers. If they do, I will gladly give out my number.

    I would also like to point out that many studies have been done on the effect of marijuana versus the effect of alcohol, and the effects of alcohol are not only worse, but more dangerous.

    The Rastafarian culture is filled with people who smoke marijuana as much as some people smoke cigarettes.

    People do not hold interventions for pot smokers.

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  • CurlyGina2CurlyGina2 Posts: 1,048Registered Users
    Why doesn't something like that come up in my state :(
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