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Welcome to My World!

So glad Gretchen started this forum.

The texture of my hair has changed a great deal since I was younger. I don't know if it's the grey hairs coming in or age itself.

Since I'm on HRT (a topic for another thread), I'm not sure if changing hormones might play a part in this.

All I know is -- those darn greys are hard to cover.

Come join us!
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,237Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Oh my goodness, I have so much I want to whine...I mean talk about! But it will have to wait til my boss isn't looking over my shoulder. It will ruin his image of my eternal youth if he see me talking about chin hair, flab, sags, grey hair, etc.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • CurlyOrNotCurlyOrNot Posts: 37Registered Users
    I turn 40 next week, so this forum is so timely for me! I've noticed some differences lately, but not in my hair yet. Of course, I've been going gray since my twenties, and covering all the way, so that's not news to me :wink: Looking forward to some Fab-Forty dialogue!
    Used to be: YesICan...work with this hair. Spring is here, so I'm curly again...what a relief!
  • MaudieMaudie Posts: 508Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    40? 40? I had my last baby at 40, way back in my "try to look like you have straight hair days". I can vaguely remember 40. :lol:
    Maudie


    CO wash-Vo5 Kiwi Lime
    Regular CO-Tresemme Naturals Silicone Free
    Deep CO-Aussie 3 Minute Miracle

    Shampoo-Jhirmack Silver Plus Ageless once a week
    Cream-Garnier Fructis Sleek $ Shine Leave-In Conditioning
    Gels-LA Looks Sport

    Going silver-last hair color 4/10/15
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I can identify with the "straight hair" days -- more like straight hair YEARS! All of the 1960's and 70's. No one knew I had curly hair until I was 35 in 1987.
  • SuZenSuZen Posts: 1,595Registered Users
    I quit straightening around 1980, I think. Oh, the 80s were good to fuzzy-headed me.
  • B-wavyB-wavy Posts: 1,733Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Yeah, the 80s were all about big hair. I was so happy then.... *sigh*
  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Posts: 2,551Registered Users
    No one knew I had curly hair until I was 35 in 1987.

    I didn't know I had curly hair until I was 38 (good haircut brought out the curls). I just thought my hair was frizzy, bumpy and hard to deal with. I tried everything in the 60's and 70's to make it straight, but it always had bumps in it.

    I had a reunion with 3 college friends last summer and all of them said "We didn't know you had curly hair".

    One of them had a lot of pics of our days in the dorm and in at least half of them I had my hair in those HUGE rollers that were supposed to take out the bumps (which I later found out were curls)! (My hair was waist length and all one length at the time).
  • B-wavyB-wavy Posts: 1,733Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    sdcurly wrote:
    I tried everything in the 60's and 70's to make it straight, but it always had bumps in it.

    Funny, you called it "bumps", I called it "lumps". And I had no idea that my hair would actually curl until I found this board a couple of years ago. Thank heavens for NC.com!
  • verycurlysueverycurlysue Posts: 15Registered Users
    I know exactly what kind of hair you guys mean when you say "bumps". I once asked a coworker with hair like that if she ever let her curls come out and she looked at me as if I was crazy. "I don't have curly hair," she answered. I didn't pursue it, but does she ever have hidden curls!!

    As for me, there was never any doubt! My hair will form a curl at a half inch long, a complete ringlet at an inch!
    3Cfiii at the extreme. Corkscrews and ramen noodles, highlights, short bouncy curls in front, in back hangs to bra strap when wet, shoulder length when dry
  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Posts: 2,551Registered Users
    As for me, there was never any doubt!

    When I told my mother that I realized I had curly hair at 38, she said I should have asked her because she always knew I had curly hair (she's a straighty, dad was curly). I honestly don't think I would have believed her until that fateful haircut though.

    I sure wish we would have had products and the internet when I was in my younger. Curly hair was a curse when I was young nobody wanted it or knew what to do with it!
  • SuZenSuZen Posts: 1,595Registered Users
    Who remembers when conditioner didn't exist yet, and after washing your hair, it would be dry and fly-away for days?
  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Posts: 2,551Registered Users
    Suzen - yes, we had "creme rinse" instead.

    There was NOTHING for curly heads when we were young (those of us over 45 anyway).
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I remember creme rinse, and it was pink! Conditioner did make an appearance at some point. I remember using VO5 as a conditioner.
  • SuZenSuZen Posts: 1,595Registered Users
    I remember *before* creme rinse, even. ("Tame.") We shampooed with Halo and our hair was unspeakably horrible.
  • benthuddbenthudd Posts: 55Registered Users
    Before school, I used to plaster my bangs down with Dippity Do and pink tape. And pray for low humidity. I hated going out at night or in the morning because of the humidity. Hmmmm... now that I think about it, Dippity Do was kind of a precursor to Biosilk Rock Hard Gel!
    Cindy
  • LaVidaCurlyLaVidaCurly Posts: 58Registered Users
    I remember when my mom use to put dippity do in my hair yuck!! It didn't work either. I started using rollers in my early teens until I lived in San Diego. Since there was no winter I could go out with wet hair and not worry about getting sick. That was 1988 and I have been curly ever since.

    I also started coloring my hair when I was 25 and actually the texture of my hair is much better with coloring. Go figure!
  • gekko422gekko422 Posts: 4,869Registered Users
    My Mom's solution was to cut my hair all short except on top and then perm the top. Can I just tell you, high school was hell.
    Democracy is not a spectator sport.

    You know why pandas are endangered? Cause pandas ain't got no game.

    Jesus loves you, but I'm his favorite.
  • munchkinmunchkin Posts: 2,909Registered Users
    I can identify with the "straight hair" days -- more like straight hair YEARS! All of the 1960's and 70's. No one knew I had curly hair until I was 35 in 1987.

    I don't think I knew myself till about then! What we had to do to get our hair straight. I even slept on rollers the size of beer cans.

    I remember that pink tape. I tried every kind of tape possible on my bangs... and they still went the direction they wanted to on their own!
    3b/c
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,237Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    gekko, sorry for your nightmare hairdo (altho the image made me giggle a little bit). My mom's solution to dealing with my hair was a very short boy-cut in 4th grade. I cried my eyes out.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • bottleredbottlered Posts: 6Registered Users
    As far as stubborn grays go....Matrix Socolor seems to be a great product for my 3a/b mix, mostly gray in the worst place - the front! With previous color brands, the colorists would have to pre-treat my hairline with some noxious chemical to soften it. The Matrix has made this unnecessary......

    Another anti-gray weapon? Clairol's Nice n Easy Root Kit. I love wearing headbands, so I used this as soon as a gray would pop out around my hairline. My previous color, a medium red-brown, fit their 6R perfectly. Now I've gone lighter and don't know what to do. But believe me, if I, who never so much as put Sun-In in her hair as a teenager, could handle this kit, a monkey could!

    As for hormones, oy. The biggest difference for me has been a gradual softening and loosening of my curl due to thyroid hormones. I was dx'd with Hashimoto's at 19 and have been on thyroid replacement ever since. Now I see what my hair was really meant to be like all along - a combo of my very curly mom and wavy dad!, not just a mass of frizz that I spent half my girlhood straightening Knowing I could've been spared a frizzed-out adolescence is a bummer, but having softer hair is one benefit of thyroid treatment.

    I'm new to HRT, only 4 months post hyst (and wishing I had done it a LOT sooner....age 12 maybe?) so I'm not certain I'm on the right dose/type yet. So far my hair is the same, maybe a bit more dry. Since I've had it highlighted and lightened, that could be to blame. But - if you do find that your hair has lost body and volume, lightening it roughs up the cuticle, thereby giving you some more ooomph. The dryness is a tradeoff, but we know how to deal with that here, right?

    Hang in there!

    BR
    3a/b Botticelli curls, colored with Matrix Socolor (7R or RB? Plus highlights). Hair is more porous from coloring; canopy is quite dry.
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,677Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    We could get shampoo and conditioner for dry, greasy or normal hair and that was it. I used to raid the pantry and cleaning cupboard for anything I thought might make a difference to my hair - nothing worked. I honestly think my lifelong inability to accept my hair (still struggling) and selfconsciousness stems from school days and all the teasing I got due to the bush that was my "crowning glory". Thank God my mum never made me get my hair cut short, despite the Sunday night tears with the comb! Even in the 70's when shaggy perms were in (this was in England), my hair never looked right. I think differences are a lot more accepted these days than they were back then.
    3b in South Australia.
  • gekko422gekko422 Posts: 4,869Registered Users
    gekko, sorry for your nightmare hairdo (altho the image made me giggle a little bit). My mom's solution to dealing with my hair was a very short boy-cut in 4th grade. I cried my eyes out.

    I was looking through my senior yearbook for pics of me, I found this band picture (yes, on top of it all, I was a band geek) and I was looking and looking for me in the picture. I finally realized that the dorky boy in the front row was actually me. :cry:

    I have to laugh though, I couldn't have looked to bad, I dated all through HS.
    Democracy is not a spectator sport.

    You know why pandas are endangered? Cause pandas ain't got no game.

    Jesus loves you, but I'm his favorite.
  • MaudieMaudie Posts: 508Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Speaking of moms (I love her dearly), my mom would cut my bangs, never taking into account the shrinkage factor. I would cry afterwards when they shrunk to about an inch and a half. In fact, I have fought with bangs off and on all my life (no more). Benthudd, I remember the pink tape too. :)
    Maudie


    CO wash-Vo5 Kiwi Lime
    Regular CO-Tresemme Naturals Silicone Free
    Deep CO-Aussie 3 Minute Miracle

    Shampoo-Jhirmack Silver Plus Ageless once a week
    Cream-Garnier Fructis Sleek $ Shine Leave-In Conditioning
    Gels-LA Looks Sport

    Going silver-last hair color 4/10/15
  • B-wavyB-wavy Posts: 1,733Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My mom's solution to dealing with my hair was a very short boy-cut in 4th grade. I cried my eyes out.

    Ooooo, your mom must have known my mom. I too was a victim of the infamous "pixie-cut" around the same age. Very traumatic, cried for days over that one. :cry:

    And, yes, I remember the days before conditioner. It was basically Breck or Prell in our household. Then they invented "Long N Silky". Anyone remember that? It was a blue pearly-looking stuff as I recall....
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,237Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    The only hair-related thing I miss from my younger days is the original Herbal Essence shampoo. I can still smell it all these years later. If I could find that scent again I would bathe in it.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • starinastarina Posts: 665Registered Users
    The only hair-related thing I miss from my younger days is the original Herbal Essence shampoo. I can still smell it all these years later. If I could find that scent again I would bathe in it.

    I think Herbal Essence was universally loved by everyone! That smell was to die for. I still wonder why it was discontinued as it was so popular. Of course, it was probably full of detergents and other bad stuff!
    I have 3A hair. I've discovered Jessicurl shampoo and Too Shea conditioner and I'm thrilled! Long-time LA Looks sport gel user.
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    my biggest concern as I get older is that my hair will revert to it's pre-pubescent stage....less curl,and the curl that I AM left with will be wiry and coarse....
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • stubbornirishhairstubbornirishhair Posts: 118Registered Users
    I am 43 and I remember a commercial for Johnson's Baby Shampoo, that had a little girl with wispy blond hair running around. I washed my reddish brown hair with my little brother's baby shampoo, combed it and dried it, and ran around (jumping unseen on the furniture no less) but my hair was too heavy and thick to fly out behind me. I asked my mother if I could get it thinned. She said it would just grow back. I so wanted wispy blond hair!
    2B wavy thick hair
    Fia=2a M iii
    modified CG since 1/12/06
  • verycurlysueverycurlysue Posts: 15Registered Users
    Oh, those well meaning Moms! My mother was a hair dresser no less! And she insisted on two VERY sudsy soapings at every wash. Talk about dry hair!!! Was she horrified 2 years ago when I told her I no longer used shampoo at all! :lol: She used to put balsam in my hair which was a little help (Loved the smell!!). And VO5 which was a horror. My hair HATES added oil in any product. When I screamed as a child at having my hair combed, her solution was to cut it an inch long all over. I wore my hair shaped like a ball LONG before Afros came into fashion, and I was a little Jewish girl! My hair was never allowed to grow long and I swear that's why I'm STILL trying to grow it long now in my late 50's!

    Then came the high school years. And Mom and I fought weekly over my hair. (Actually we still do. I just came home from visiting her and she complained repeatedly about this awful cut I am currently battling). She used to set my hair in rollers and comb it for me. It was always frizzy sausage curlish. Ugly. It wasn't until early senior year when we had a major fight and I managed to wrest the care of my hair away from her that I discovered all the 'tricks' you guys were using to control your curls. Not that my hair cooperated, but I did better than her!!!!
    3Cfiii at the extreme. Corkscrews and ramen noodles, highlights, short bouncy curls in front, in back hangs to bra strap when wet, shoulder length when dry
  • TamrinTamrin Posts: 43Registered Users
    This is all bringing back memories. I remember my mother washing my hair with Prell shampoo when I was little...two sudsings. Why, when I have always had dry hair, even as a teenager? Then Tame creme rinse, one capful to four capfuls of water. The stuff was watery to begin with; it was like pouring skim milk on my hair. So no, I didn't have curls either, I just had this huge fuzzy head with some bumpy ridges here and there. I also remember the big rollers, the pink tape, and the Dippity-do, the short haircuts.

    The sixties and seventies were not good to me, but ah, the eighties! I had a mullet type cut, with a very short layer on top, but that layer curled well, and then the underlayers of my hair could curl better with the weight of the top layer off of them. Much as the mullet is maligned, it worked for my hair. I got many compliments on my curls, and kept the style for many years. I went into a salon once and a girl there, who had the very thick, shiny, straight hair that I'd always wanted as a kid, pointed to me and told her hairdresser, "Can you make my hair look like that?"

    I grew out the top layer in the nineties, finally. It just looked out of style, like those old ladies who still wear beehives. Post-mullet, I straightened and then read "Curly Girl." I had some long layers, and now 'carve 'n slice,' which seems to be working (along with leave-in and gel.) I'm thinking of going short again.
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