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The basics of each candidate:

shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
Can someone or everyone give me a short run-down on each candidate's stance on the following topics. I haven't really been watching anythign & want to make an informed decision.

Abortion
Education
Oil
Veterans
Healthcare
War
Economy
Housing Crises
Agriculture
Taxes

Just a one sentance summery would be great! I can't wait to see what everyone's view of the candidates is!! Coming from both parties, it shoudl be interesting.
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  • hadtochangemynamehadtochangemyname Posts: 628Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    There is a really big internet out there. Why not research for yourself the answers to your questions? Each candidate has a website, you can start there.

    It seems quite silly to expect others to do your homework for you. Besides, critical thinking is an important skill to develop.
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    There is a really big internet out there. Why not research for yourself the answers to your questions? Each candidate has a website, you can start there.

    It seems quite silly to expect others to do your homework for you. Besides, critical thinking is an important skill to develop.

    Thank you. I couldn't figure out a way to say this without coming off uber b*tchy. YOu did it nicely.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    shelli wrote: »
    Can someone or everyone give me a short run-down on each candidate's stance on the following topics. I haven't really been watching anythign & want to make an informed decision.

    Abortion
    Education
    Oil
    Veterans
    Healthcare
    War
    Economy
    Housing Crises
    Agriculture
    Taxes

    Just a one sentance summery would be great! I can't wait to see what everyone's view of the candidates is!! Coming from both parties, it shoudl be interesting.



    I'll help you out: Vote Obama. McCain sucks, and Palin sucks worse (which matters because McCain is 100 years old).
  • southrncurlssouthrncurls Posts: 152Registered Users
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:
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  • hadtochangemynamehadtochangemyname Posts: 628Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    There is a really big internet out there. Why not research for yourself the answers to your questions? Each candidate has a website, you can start there.

    It seems quite silly to expect others to do your homework for you. Besides, critical thinking is an important skill to develop.

    Thank you. I couldn't figure out a way to say this without coming off uber b*tchy. YOu did it nicely.

    It sounded *****y. I've just lost patience with this sort of thing.
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    There is a really big internet out there. Why not research for yourself the answers to your questions? Each candidate has a website, you can start there.

    It seems quite silly to expect others to do your homework for you. Besides, critical thinking is an important skill to develop.

    Thank you. I couldn't figure out a way to say this without coming off uber b*tchy. YOu did it nicely.

    It sounded *****y. I've just lost patience with this sort of thing.

    Ok, well, yeah, but not uber *****y. :thumbleft:
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:


    That was money his supporters donated to him to finance his campaign. Speaking as a supporter who donated money to his campaign, I'm glad he spent it on campaigning and not a wardrobe for a candidate.

    I'm just sayin'.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:



    As a black man, Obama is facing insurrmountable odds to become president. How exactly would he use money to help the economy if he can't get into office?!? If it takes more money than ever to get him into office, it will have been worth it.
  • southrncurlssouthrncurls Posts: 152Registered Users
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:


    That was money his supporters donated to him to finance his campaign. Speaking as a supporter who donated money to his campaign, I'm glad he spent it on campaigning and not a wardrobe for a candidate.

    I'm just sayin'.

    Do you realize how much Michelle spent on her wardrobe? I guess that doesn't matter to you. You are all quick to judge the Republicans because you think they are all going to be like Bush. Whatever! I don't know why I even try to give an opinion. Democrates can't be civil in a discussion. You are always negitive and want to put everyone down. I can't wait until the election is over so you will all get off your high horse!
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:


    That was money his supporters donated to him to finance his campaign. Speaking as a supporter who donated money to his campaign, I'm glad he spent it on campaigning and not a wardrobe for a candidate.

    I'm just sayin'.

    Do you realize how much Michelle spent on her wardrobe? I guess that doesn't matter to you. You are all quick to judge the Republicans because you think they are all going to be like Bush. Whatever! I don't know why I even try to give an opinion. Democrates can't be civil in a discussion. You are always negitive and want to put everyone down. I can't wait until the election is over so you will all get off your high horse!

    Do you realize that the Obama's spent their own personal money on their clothing, for both themselves and their children, and not the money that their supporters sent them for campaigning?

    Can you not see the difference there?
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:


    That was money his supporters donated to him to finance his campaign. Speaking as a supporter who donated money to his campaign, I'm glad he spent it on campaigning and not a wardrobe for a candidate.

    I'm just sayin'.

    Do you realize how much Michelle spent on her wardrobe? I guess that doesn't matter to you. You are all quick to judge the Republicans because you think they are all going to be like Bush. Whatever! I don't know why I even try to give an opinion. Democrates can't be civil in a discussion. You are always negitive and want to put everyone down. I can't wait until the election is over so you will all get off your high horse!

    and who's being negative, anyways? You're the one that brought up the fact that *gasp* Obama spent his campaign money on, you guessed it, CAMPAIGNING. Trying to make something that's logical into some weird defaming statement.
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  • KookyCurlKookyCurl Posts: 1,980Registered Users
    Here's the deal with campaign money. There are rules for it's use even if he didn't accept the public finance money. It's not like he can just go and donate it somewhere. He has to spend it. Any money he doesn't spend will go back to the party and be distributed among state party apparati(same with McCain, I'm not sure if any goes back into the public finance fund). Why shouldn't he spend the money on large programming?

    And actually the spending of the money on Palin doesn't bother me. It's the fact that it could be done for MUCH less and still look professional. Image is part of modern campaigning. But to be wearing designer labels while talking about being an average american is a bit disingenuous. Her image people should have known better.
  • KookyCurlKookyCurl Posts: 1,980Registered Users
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:


    That was money his supporters donated to him to finance his campaign. Speaking as a supporter who donated money to his campaign, I'm glad he spent it on campaigning and not a wardrobe for a candidate.

    I'm just sayin'.

    Do you realize how much Michelle spent on her wardrobe? I guess that doesn't matter to you. You are all quick to judge the Republicans because you think they are all going to be like Bush. Whatever! I don't know why I even try to give an opinion. Democrates can't be civil in a discussion. You are always negitive and want to put everyone down. I can't wait until the election is over so you will all get off your high horse!

    I don't think all Republicans will be like Bush. I've happily voted for my Republican senator because she is a good senator. If she were running I'd be much more undecided. Democrats can be very civil in a discussion. I've seen no name calling. Just a counterpoint to your argument.

    I'm not up on any high horse. If you truly believe that McCain is the best option for our country than you are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine that he will lead this country into an economic spiral we may never recover from.

    For the record Michelle appeared on Leno the other night in an outfit from JCrew and has made public appearances in outfits that cost less than $200. Obama gets his shoes resoled when they wear out and clothing to the tailor to be mended instead of throwing it out.

    His advertising purchase did help the economy. It paid the TV execs quite a bit (which theoretically pays the salaries of the underlings), the production people got work, editors, sound people, security at the rally, camera crews, etc. The networks also benefited from all those people tuning in. Look at all those people he helped by making that purchase. It's not like he said "hey guys I have all this money...howsabout I pay you this much." He has to pay market prices for advertising just like if he were a company like Ford or Nike. He just happens to have a lot of money to spend thanks to campaign contributions.
  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users
    It's legal that McCain's campaign spent so much money on clothes, but it isn't wise. McCain has to run his campaign on a lot less money than Obama. It makes sense to use his money wisely, and he chose not to do so. In fact, he hasn't run a very effective campaign at all. I was truly an undecided up until a few weeks ago. I used to like McCain. He didn't do many interviews, which wouldn't have costed him anything. He didn't take advantage of that!!! He hushed Palin for the longest time...now, I understand why...but it looked fishy...like he was hiding something...and he was. He and Palin only have a few talking points...he would've been better off if he would've talked more about where he stands on certain issues.
    Obama was guilty of that at first. I wasn't in on the "change" speeches...they were vague and seemed silly. But then he started going on interviews (like with O'Reilly...you don't have to like O'Reilly but it was a good interview!!!), he was more articulate (in my humble opinion) about his issues during the debates...he more likely attacked McCain's policies with a little bit about McCain as a person...while McCain more likely attacked Obama as a person with a little bit about his policies.

    Both candidates have their own websites. It would be wise to read up on what they have to say about these important issues you are asking.

    I am not against anyone voting for McCain. My husband is!!! Vote what your mind and "heart" tells you to vote. Most importantly, vote.

    It's good to ask questions, but it's good to investigate it too. I'm not in 100 percent agreement with either candidate. In fact, I'm a moderate and there are a few things I'm more in agreement with McCain on...and then there are a few things I'm more in agreement with Obama on. I can totally understand why someone would vote for McCain. I'm concerned about his health and I'm not too thrilled about Palin, although I was at first.

    It truly is an important election...and a first will be made no matter who wins. It's exciting!
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  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    Shelli's thread reminds me of something I heard a political scientist say on tv earlier this week: the candidates are still trying to woo the undecideds, but really, at this point, if someone is truly undecided, they are most likely not going to vote. They aren't really undecideds, they are uninteresteds.

    What do you think?
  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    Shelli's thread reminds me of something I heard a political scientist say on tv earlier this week: the candidates are still trying to woo the undecideds, but really, at this point, if someone is truly undecided, they are most likely not going to vote. They aren't really undecideds, they are uninteresteds.

    What do you think?

    Oh, I agree totally. I cannot imagine someone not having a clue this close to the election.

    And I like your new term, The Uninteresteds. That's good! :toothy10:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    shelli wrote: »
    Abortion
    Education
    Oil
    Veterans
    Healthcare
    War
    Economy
    Housing Crises
    Agriculture
    Taxes

    Just a one sentance summery would be great!



    Do you really expect important issues like these to be distilled down to ONE sentence?!?!? No matter what Fox News would like you to believe, life is not a soundbite.
  • alacurlalacurl Posts: 1,199Registered Users Curl Novice
    Shelli's thread reminds me of something I heard a political scientist say on tv earlier this week: the candidates are still trying to woo the undecideds, but really, at this point, if someone is truly undecided, they are most likely not going to vote. They aren't really undecideds, they are uninteresteds.

    What do you think?

    At this point, the vast majority of undecideds must truly be uninterested.
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  • tctc Posts: 986Registered Users
    if someone is interested but still undecided, I recommend that they bypass the news and the forums (sorry ladies :) ) and first go to the source to read about the candidates from their own websites...

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fbarackobama.com" class="Popup
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnmccain.com" class="Popup

    And if you're interested in taking a "who to vote for" quiz, including some 3rd-party candidates, here's a good one, but obviously I wouldn't rely on this alone. Definitely visit the candidates' websites at a minimum.

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.glassbooth.org" class="Popup
  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,177Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Obama spent over 6 million on those 30 min "infommercials"! We are all very concerned for our economy if he really wanted to get votes he could have spent that money on "helping" the economy, not trying to win over the american people. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. :sad11:



    As a black man, Obama is facing insurrmountable odds to become president. How exactly would he use money to help the economy if he can't get into office?!? If it takes more money than ever to get him into office, it will have been worth it.


    Exactly. He is trying to win. Campaign money is for campaigning. People are just jealous he has all that money to work with.

    Here is some info on a few of the issues -

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fteacher.scholastic.com%2Fscholasticnews%2Findepth%2Felection2008%2Fgames%2Fcandidates_stand%2Fissues.htm" class="Popup
  • shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
    Geesh! Everything online (and TV/papers,etc) is spun in one direction or the other it seems. I was just looking for some answers from real people I guess. I didn't think I would get my ass chewed out for trying to learn.
    A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose.

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    shelli wrote: »
    Geesh! Everything online (and TV/papers,etc) is spun in one direction or the other it seems. I was just looking for some answers from real people I guess. I didn't think I would get my ass chewed out for trying to learn.



    We spin here too ya know. ;)

    So...who'd you vote for?
  • shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
    And it is not that I am un-interested. If I wasn't interested, I wouldn't have posted this thread. .
    A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose.

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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    If you were actually interested you'd have paid more attention and been able to do your own research.

    Everything is spun. My opinion, RCW's opinions, AmandaCurls opinions, everyone. We all have our own unique opinions colored by our own life experiences. You need to do your research (y'know, in the future, cause this one is OVER) from all kinds of sources with the understanding that they're all spun, and decide for yourself what you believe. What I think of the basics of each of the former candidates and what another person thinks are going to be different. Guaranteed.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
    So how do you sift out the truth from all the crap? Obama's folks are gonna try to make him look great & so are McCain's. I mean hello- they were campaigning! Nevermind. It doesn't matter now anyway.
    A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose.

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  • journotravelerjournotraveler Posts: 2,816Registered Users
    as a journalist, i have to say this: read newspapers. read news stories, profiles, stories that analyze the issues. counter to what you think, newspapers are not invested in spin; they're invested in disseminating information.

    the editorial pages, of course, are all about opinion. but that is separate from the news gathering operation of newspapers and news magazines. you can learn a lot this way. seriously.
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    You look at facts. You have to dig through some incredibly difficult to read websites and take the facts and draw your own conclusions. You have to look at their voting history and the bills that they've introduced themselves. You have to look at what they've written, and how you view the service they've given this country.

    Mostly, it's a game of instincts.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • hadtochangemynamehadtochangemyname Posts: 628Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Like I said, it is called critical thinking. A skill. Use your brain.

    Funny how when *I* say it, I'm the big mean ol' b*tch.

    But quite honestly, how old are you? If you are old enough to be of voting age, this is a skill that you should have already learned. Pity you haven't. Life is going to be tough for you.
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  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,177Registered Users Curl Connoisseur

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