Wow, Even Shepard Smith of Fox Can't Stand Joe The Plumber

SpringcurlSpringcurl Registered Users Posts: 8,002
The Republican party are fools to be parading this guy around.

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  • CurlyGina2CurlyGina2 Registered Users Posts: 1,048
    what the eff has shepard smith done to his face?

    Joe the Plumber, if he really hated having the media in his life, wouldn't be such a media whore.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    Joe the non-Plumber now has a publicist, and is trolling for a book deal and a country music recording contract. He's scamming everyone. LOL
  • journotravelerjournotraveler Registered Users Posts: 2,816
    Joe the non-Plumber now has a publicist, and is trolling for a book deal and a country music recording contract. He's scamming everyone. LOL


    for real. talk about taking your 15 minutes and running with it. :angry7:
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  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    How are the Republicans fools for "parading" him? The man is one of the main reasons McCain's campaign is still alive and kicking and polling better than Obama on who people trust to handle the economy. Is Joe really scamming everyone or taking advantage of the opportunity he's been presented. Joe's not a stupid man. Not everyone is comfortable at talking about how dangerous they find Obama to be. I don't trust Obama to defend Israel for crap. But I wouldn't go into details into why on live television.
  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Registered Users Posts: 8,002
    How are the Republicans fools for "parading" him? The man is one of the main reasons McCain's campaign is still alive and kicking and polling better than Obama on who people trust to handle the economy. Is Joe really scamming everyone or taking advantage of the opportunity he's been presented. Joe's not a stupid man. Not everyone is comfortable at talking about how dangerous they find Obama to be. I don't trust Obama to defend Israel for crap. But I wouldn't go into details into why on live television.

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  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    Springcurl wrote: »
    How are the Republicans fools for "parading" him? The man is one of the main reasons McCain's campaign is still alive and kicking and polling better than Obama on who people trust to handle the economy. Is Joe really scamming everyone or taking advantage of the opportunity he's been presented. Joe's not a stupid man. Not everyone is comfortable at talking about how dangerous they find Obama to be. I don't trust Obama to defend Israel for crap. But I wouldn't go into details into why on live television.

    You're funny.

    Well I guess I'll be the one laughing on November 4th when McCain-Palin win. The joke's on you, my dear.
  • webjockeywebjockey Registered Users Posts: 2,786
    Is Joe really scamming everyone or taking advantage of the opportunity he's been presented. Joe's not a stupid man.

    Seriously. He's William Hung of the political world. $10 bucks says he'll be on a reality TV show within the year.
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  • Skram1113Skram1113 Registered Users Posts: 365
    Springcurl wrote: »
    How are the Republicans fools for "parading" him? The man is one of the main reasons McCain's campaign is still alive and kicking and polling better than Obama on who people trust to handle the economy. Is Joe really scamming everyone or taking advantage of the opportunity he's been presented. Joe's not a stupid man. Not everyone is comfortable at talking about how dangerous they find Obama to be. I don't trust Obama to defend Israel for crap. But I wouldn't go into details into why on live television.

    You're funny.

    Well I guess I'll be the one laughing on November 4th when McCain-Palin win. The joke's on you, my dear.

    :pukeleft:

    Have you looked at the polls lately?
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  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    Skram1113 wrote: »
    Springcurl wrote: »

    You're funny.

    Well I guess I'll be the one laughing on November 4th when McCain-Palin win. The joke's on you, my dear.

    :pukeleft:

    Have you looked at the polls lately?

    Yes the same ones that have been completely unreliable through the primaries. The same pollsters who predicted a Gore and Kerry win in 2000 and 2004 respectively. The campaigns have internal polls as well that they don't share with the public. I wouldn't assume this is in the bag. You can put all the little vomiting icons you want, but I don't see Obama winning. A lot can happen in less than a week, but it looks like McCain will pull this off. And in 4 years we'll see how primed Palin will be for 2012 or 2016. That will be interesting, a Sarah-Hillary showdown.
  • rouquinnerouquinne Registered Users Posts: 13,737 Curl Connoisseur
    How are the Republicans fools for "parading" him?

    let's see...

    he lied about being a plumber??

    he's been exposed as a tax cheat???

    take your pick...

    that isn't the kind of person i'd want representing me in any way.

    so, yes... fools.

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  • Skram1113Skram1113 Registered Users Posts: 365
    Skram1113 wrote: »

    Well I guess I'll be the one laughing on November 4th when McCain-Palin win. The joke's on you, my dear.

    :pukeleft:

    Have you looked at the polls lately?

    Yes the same ones that have been completely unreliable through the primaries. The same pollsters who predicted a Gore and Kerry win in 2000 and 2004 respectively. The campaigns have internal polls as well that they don't share with the public. I wouldn't assume this is in the bag. You can put all the little vomiting icons you want, but I don't see Obama winning. A lot can happen in less than a week, but it looks like McCain will pull this off. And in 4 years we'll see how primed Palin will be for 2012 or 2016. That will be interesting, a Sarah-Hillary showdown.

    I think its ludicrous that you're attempting to use the farce 2000 election as an example to support anything other than the GOP's deceitful and disgusting methods of winning elections.
    In reference to the bolded: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/
    Where does that indicate that McCain will be pulling this off?
    And btw- Hillary would tear Palin apart.
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  • CocoaCoilyCocoaCoily Registered Users Posts: 2,648 Curl Neophyte
    CCC, I do believe you have had a sip of the kool-aid.

    How can you possibly think that parading around a guy who is a complete farce does not make their campaign look foolish?

  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    To Answer Roquinne's questions.

    he lied about being a plumber??
    Of course he's a plumber, he works for a plumbing company and under his boss's certification while he completes his apprenticeship and paperwork. He will soon have his license but of course not finishing plumbing school is more important than Obama's answer to his question. Shoot the messenger.
    Check the OCILB requirements on qualifications.

    he's been exposed as a tax cheat???
    He's not a tax cheat because he owes some back taxes that he was unaware that he owed. It's $1,200 give it a break. Even John Kohlstrand a spokesman for the Ohio Department of Taxation said that taxpayers can often be unaware of such tax liens. But hey this is what happens when you question the Messiah, the MSM and State bureaucrats dig through your business and try to slander your name for challenging "the One".

    take your pick...
    Take your pick of...what. Is that it? Pretty lame. It's disturbing that so much time and energy is spent on a plumber but little to none on Obama's political paradigm, his downright creepy associations and lackluster record.

    that isn't the kind of person i'd want representing me in any way.
    We are well aware of who you want representation from. But I don't want Obama anywhere near the White House.

    so, yes... fools.
    I think you have already indicated who the foolish person is. And it's not Joe Schmoe.

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  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    Skram1113 wrote: »
    Skram1113 wrote: »

    :pukeleft:

    Have you looked at the polls lately?

    Yes the same ones that have been completely unreliable through the primaries. The same pollsters who predicted a Gore and Kerry win in 2000 and 2004 respectively. The campaigns have internal polls as well that they don't share with the public. I wouldn't assume this is in the bag. You can put all the little vomiting icons you want, but I don't see Obama winning. A lot can happen in less than a week, but it looks like McCain will pull this off. And in 4 years we'll see how primed Palin will be for 2012 or 2016. That will be interesting, a Sarah-Hillary showdown.

    I think its ludicrous that you're attempting to use the farce 2000 election as an example to support anything other than the GOP's deceitful and disgusting methods of winning elections.
    In reference to the bolded: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/
    Where does that indicate that McCain will be pulling this off?
    And btw- Hillary would tear Palin apart.

    Oh and the Democrats never cheat in elections ever. Give me a break. Gore is the reason why Gore lost. Everyone focuses on Florida but Florida would have been a non-issue if he won his own damn state. How does a VP, Tennessee Senator and Congressman whose father was also a Tennessee Congressman lose his own state? Name one person elected President who has lost his own state! Gore made lots and I mean lots of bad decisions in 2000, botched recount included, but I'm not going to run through them on this thread. I was somewhat disheartened when he lost. But he lost. It's over. Get over it.
  • Koukla72Koukla72 Registered Users Posts: 1,680
    Well, there's plenty of evidence the Republican party is trying similar tactics of election fraud. Maybe they're expecting that to help them win this time, too.

    And as for losing one's own state, maybe the McCain campaign should be paying closer attention to his own state, then.

    From Reuters:
    Polls in recent days suggest that John McCain’s lead over Democratic rival Barack Obama may be slipping in the Republican’s home state of Arizona, with one released late on Tuesday indicating that the race is now too close to call.

    With less than a week to go until the Nov. 4 election, the poll by Arizona State University showed McCain leading Obama 46 points to 44, a slender advantage that was within the three-point margin of error.
    Just sayin'... ;)
  • rouquinnerouquinne Registered Users Posts: 13,737 Curl Connoisseur
    ...he works for a plumbing company and under his boss's certification while he completes his apprenticeship and paperwork.

    Unlike some other states, Ohio does not have a formal statewide licensing system for plumbers. But the city of Toledo and other municipalities do, Mr. Joseph said, and Mr. Wurzelbacher has not met those requirements.

    “All contractors are licensed, and he does not have a license, either as a contractor or a plumber,” the union official said, citing a search of government records. “I can’t find that he’s ever even applied for any kind of apprenticeship, and he has never belonged to local 189 in Columbus, which is what he claims on his Facebook page.”

    (Mr. Joseph is Thomas Joseph, head of the union local for plumbers in Toledo, where Mr. Wurzelbacher lives.)

    you're REALLY gullible
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  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Registered Users Posts: 4,940 Curl Neophyte
    I know I'm getting bored of "Joe the Plumber." I thought it was lame when he was introduced in the debates...and then after hearing about him, I thought it was unwise to keep bringing him up.
    However, with that said, there are people who are listening to this and are starting to go towards McCain's side. They think Obama is a socialist and will take away their money.

    So, although I think it's lame, others don't quite see it so. I just can't wait for next Tuesday to be over with...I'm so sick of it all!
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  • StephSStephS Registered Users Posts: 352
    To Answer Roquinne's questions.

    he lied about being a plumber??
    Of course he's a plumber, he works for a plumbing company and under his boss's certification while he completes his apprenticeship and paperwork. He will soon have his license but of course not finishing plumbing school is more important than Obama's answer to his question. Shoot the messenger.
    Check the OCILB requirements on qualifications.

    he's been exposed as a tax cheat???
    He's not a tax cheat because he owes some back taxes that he was unaware that he owed. It's $1,200 give it a break. Even John Kohlstrand a spokesman for the Ohio Department of Taxation said that taxpayers can often be unaware of such tax liens. But hey this is what happens when you question the Messiah, the MSM and State bureaucrats dig through your business and try to slander your name for challenging "the One".

    take your pick...
    Take your pick of...what. Is that it? Pretty lame. It's disturbing that so much time and energy is spent on a plumber but little to none on Obama's political paradigm, his downright creepy associations and lackluster record.

    that isn't the kind of person i'd want representing me in any way.
    We are well aware of who you want representation from. But I don't want Obama anywhere near the White House.

    so, yes... fools.
    I think you have already indicated who the foolish person is. And it's not Joe Schmoe.

    :joker:

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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Registered Users Posts: 409
    CCC,

    You always seem so angry when speaking against Obama. Maybe you should lay off the politics.... or not. I mean, it's your life:roll:

    I can't wait until Nov. 4th... I think I'm gonna throw a watch party! :shock:
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  • JosephineJosephine Registered Users Posts: 14,408 Curl Connoisseur
    How are the Republicans fools for "parading" him? The man is one of the main reasons McCain's campaign is still alive and kicking and polling better than Obama on who people trust to handle the economy. Is Joe really scamming everyone or taking advantage of the opportunity he's been presented. Joe's not a stupid man. Not everyone is comfortable at talking about how dangerous they find Obama to be. I don't trust Obama to defend Israel for crap. But I wouldn't go into details into why on live television.

    LOL..yea I can't wait until Obama gets elected so we can wipe Israel off the map!!
  • JosephineJosephine Registered Users Posts: 14,408 Curl Connoisseur
    Skram1113 wrote: »
    And btw- Hillary would tear Palin apart.

    LOL, I can't even imagine what Hillary would begin to do with Palin!
  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    rouquinne wrote: »
    ...he works for a plumbing company and under his boss's certification while he completes his apprenticeship and paperwork.

    Unlike some other states, Ohio does not have a formal statewide licensing system for plumbers. But the city of Toledo and other municipalities do, Mr. Joseph said, and Mr. Wurzelbacher has not met those requirements.

    “All contractors are licensed, and he does not have a license, either as a contractor or a plumber,” the union official said, citing a search of government records. “I can’t find that he’s ever even applied for any kind of apprenticeship, and he has never belonged to local 189 in Columbus, which is what he claims on his Facebook page.”

    (Mr. Joseph is Thomas Joseph, head of the union local for plumbers in Toledo, where Mr. Wurzelbacher lives.)

    you're REALLY gullible

    I'm glad that instead of focusing on taxes, small business, civil liberties, or anything else about your candidate you'd rather talk ad nauseaum about a plumber in Ohio and relish the character assasination. Good for you. Y'all can keep at it, trash Joe Schmoe for asking a question. God knows no citizen can ask a question to a potential president. Especially if said question receives a mangled answer. Joe just had it coming.

    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Like how ohio officials and clerks have admittedly invaded his privacy. For what? To score political points. Last time there was a plot that involved plumbers and the illegal accessing of information we called it Watergate.

    And I'm supposed to take the word of a union boss, who with his union threw support to Obama back in January over the people who actually license plumbers in the state of Ohio.

    "Wurzelbacher still would need to be a licensed apprentice or journeyman to work in the city of Toledo and Lucas County — and he's not, according to David Golis, manager and residential building official for the Toledo Division of Building Inspection and Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations.
    The two agencies handle plumber licenses in the area."

    "Cheryl Schimming, a permit specialist for the Lucas County Building Regulations Department,
    which licenses plumbers, confirmed that Wurzelbacher does not have a license but that [his boss, Al]
    Newell does hold an Ohio license. But Wurzelbacher told reporters, and Schimming agreed,
    that because he works for a licensed plumber, he is not required to have one."

    And here's information on the state of Ohio.
    “The Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board (O.C.I.L.B.), Department of Commerce,
    Division of Industrial Compliance, issues state commercial licenses to the following contractors:
    electrical, HVAC, hydronics, plumbing, and refrigeration. To receive a state license, an applicant must meet the following requirements:
    (1) be at least 18 years of age; (2) be a United States citizen or a legal alien-must provide proof of being a legal alien; (3) either have been a tradesperson in the type of licensed trade for which the application is filed for not less than five years immediately prior to the date the application is filed, currently be a registered engineer in this state with three years of business experience in the construction industry in the trade for which the engineer is applying to take the examination, or have other experience acceptable to the appropriate section of the board; (4) not have been convicted of or plead guilty to a misdemeanor involving moral turpitude or of any felony; (5) pass the examination in the trade; (6) carry minimum $500,000 contractor liability coverage; (7) pay the applicable fees”

    As I said before. That's it? Joe Schmoe is not the fool here. Sorry. Try again.
  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    CCC,

    You always seem so angry when speaking against Obama. Maybe you should lay off the politics.... or not. I mean, it's your life:roll:

    I can't wait until Nov. 4th... I think I'm gonna throw a watch party! :shock:

    How is that I seem angry? I'm told on here that I'm a troll, I drink kool-aid, i'm gullible, have my head in the clouds among other things. People post rolling eye icons, vomit icons, claim that I don't care for the other human beings, insult my intelligence yet I'm the one with a bad attitude. I'm sorry I don't take crap from some of the people on this board. I'm sorry that I can not be some clone of everyone else's political vies. I try to have discussions, bring different points of view, play devil's advocate and provide more information to the forum. But if anyone thinks I will not dish out back what I receive, they have got another thing coming. I've been involved in politics for the longest time, so it's really is no sweat of my back. Have a fun party. I'm having one as well with different drinks for all the nominees.
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    hee, rush-flavored kool-aid :toothy10::toothy10:
  • CocoaCoilyCocoaCoily Registered Users Posts: 2,648 Curl Neophyte
    It's actually quite simple... The reason the McCain campaign looks silly is because they planted someone at a rally who falsely represented himself, and they are all continuing to falsely represent him, when we all know that he is not what he said he was.

    There is nothing wrong with asking questions of the candidates. Good for him that he got the chance. But, he did not need to misrepresent himself to ask the question he did. He is living a fantasy, and allowing that fantasy to influence his decisions. And since the McCain campaign continues to trot him about, it makes it seem as though they are all for misrepresentations. Not really a good thing for a presidential candidate, if you ask me.

  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    CocoaCoily wrote: »
    It's actually quite simple... The reason the McCain campaign looks silly is because they planted someone at a rally who falsely represented himself, and they are all continuing to falsely represent him, when we all know that he is not what he said he was.

    There is nothing wrong with asking questions of the candidates. Good for him that he got the chance. But, he did not need to misrepresent himself to ask the question he did. He is living a fantasy, and allowing that fantasy to influence his decisions. And since the McCain campaign continues to trot him about, it makes it seem as though they are all for misrepresentations. Not really a good thing for a presidential candidate, if you ask me.

    One: Obama was walking around in Joe's Ohio neighborhood. This was not a rally. So a presidential candidate is making the rounds in your neighborhood, you're in front of your house with your kid and you seize the moment and jump to ask a question. Please explain how that makes you a "plant" and how being in front of your own house is remotely close to being at a "rally"

    Two: he didn't falsely represent himself. I posted more information about the requirements of being a plumber and you can go back and check exactly what Joe said. The guy is a middle-class plumber who wants to own a plumbing business. And?

    Three: He can ask any question he wants and it is not living a fantasy to have dreams and ambitions bigger than your current circumstance. I'm so disturbed by people who dismiss wanting to have a business or make more money as a fantasy. Am I not living in America. The land of opportunity with the pursuit of happiness and the American Dream.

    I'm glad my immigrant parents didn't meet people who think like you do. Allowing their fantasy delusions for a better life influence their decisions back then. I'm glad my husband and I also ignored people who think enterpreneurship is a fantasy or living in a dreamworld. I've known quite a few rags to riches types who when poor voted on policies not just for today but for tommorow. They voted not just for their own wealth but for the economic well-being of the country so that they too could make something better down the road. They worked hard and some struck it pretty rich. This does not make them deluded or misguided. This makes them hard-working Americans who took some risks, went through a cycle of failure and success and made something of themselves.

    My uncle, a staunch Democrat, who is about to launch a new business is leery of Obama's policies too. He lived through Carter and felt the pinch before. That's when a startup of his went bust. And he's siding with McGovern, the sole Democrat opposing the poorly named "Employee Free Choice Act"

    Four: This kind of silly judgmentalist tone so many are taking against one guy and one question is maddening. Once again instead of debating the merits of the answer people would like to shoot the messenger. If Joe the Plumber was Xyborg the Martian, I really don't care. My concern is the answer given by the guy who wants to be President. More Americans are going to focus on the message not the messenger. I have yet to hear Obama get into the meat of just how he plans to spend taxpayer dollars on so many new entitlements. Where does he think that money is going to come from? And why is he disregarding the GAO one of the few honorable, non-partisan, working federal institutions, that says our current New Deal entitlement program are completely unsustainable. Two leading think tanks from the right and left agree. We are at the tipping point here! But No, let's pile on Joe the Plumber instead. Who cares if the economy goes down the drain.
  • CottonCandyCurlsCottonCandyCurls Registered Users Posts: 344
    CurlyGina2 wrote: »
    hee, rush-flavored kool-aid :toothy10::toothy10:

    Ad hominem attack don't work on me or Joe the Plumber. When you have some actual points or arguments then I might take you seriously. And I don't drink Rush or any kind of flavored kool-aid. That artificial crap is not good for you. Thanks for you comment.
  • misspammisspam Registered Users Posts: 5,318
    CocoaCoily wrote: »
    It's actually quite simple... The reason the McCain campaign looks silly is because they planted someone at a rally who falsely represented himself, and they are all continuing to falsely represent him, when we all know that he is not what he said he was.

    There is nothing wrong with asking questions of the candidates. Good for him that he got the chance. But, he did not need to misrepresent himself to ask the question he did. He is living a fantasy, and allowing that fantasy to influence his decisions. And since the McCain campaign continues to trot him about, it makes it seem as though they are all for misrepresentations. Not really a good thing for a presidential candidate, if you ask me.

    One: Obama was walking around in Joe's Ohio neighborhood. This was not a rally. So a presidential candidate is making the rounds in your neighborhood, you're in front of your house with your kid and you seize the moment and jump to ask a question. Please explain how that makes you a "plant" and how being in front of your own house is remotely close to being at a "rally"

    Two: he didn't falsely represent himself. I posted more information about the requirements of being a plumber and you can go back and check exactly what Joe said. The guy is a middle-class plumber who wants to own a plumbing business. And?

    Three: He can ask any question he wants and it is not living a fantasy to have dreams and ambitions bigger than your current circumstance. I'm so disturbed by people who dismiss wanting to have a business or make more money as a fantasy. Am I not living in America. The land of opportunity with the pursuit of happiness and the American Dream.

    I'm glad my immigrant parents didn't meet people who think like you do. Allowing their fantasy delusions for a better life influence their decisions back then. I'm glad my husband and I also ignored people who think enterpreneurship is a fantasy or living in a dreamworld. I've known quite a few rags to riches types who when poor voted on policies not just for today but for tommorow. They voted not just for their own wealth but for the economic well-being of the country so that they too could make something better down the road. They worked hard and some struck it pretty rich. This does not make them deluded or misguided. This makes them hard-working Americans who took some risks, went through a cycle of failure and success and made something of themselves.

    My uncle, a staunch Democrat, who is about to launch a new business is leery of Obama's policies too. He lived through Carter and felt the pinch before. That's when a startup of his went bust. And he's siding with McGovern, the sole Democrat opposing the poorly named "Employee Free Choice Act"

    Four: This kind of silly judgmentalist tone so many are taking against one guy and one question is maddening. Once again instead of debating the merits of the answer people would like to shoot the messenger. If Joe the Plumber was Xyborg the Martian, I really don't care. My concern is the answer given by the guy who wants to be President. More Americans are going to focus on the message not the messenger. I have yet to hear Obama get into the meat of just how he plans to spend taxpayer dollars on so many new entitlements. Where does he think that money is going to come from? And why is he disregarding the GAO one of the few honorable, non-partisan, working federal institutions, that says our current New Deal entitlement program are completely unsustainable. Two leading think tanks from the right and left agree. We are at the tipping point here! But No, let's pile on Joe the Plumber instead. Who cares if the economy goes down the drain.


    CottonCandyCurls - I love your posts btw, you just keep on posting!

    As to the bolded sentences, you have hit the nail on the head. The MSM and liberals continue to focus on Joe instead of the answer Joe was given. Once again, their focus is warped.
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  • SleighSleigh Registered Users Posts: 1,226
    misspam i agree - how does one spread the wealth around?

    and who decides who needs more wealth?

    was that ever discussed?
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  • CocoaCoilyCocoaCoily Registered Users Posts: 2,648 Curl Neophyte
    Another simple thing to understand, and something we've all been hearing about and witnessing for several years now, is that people like your average CEO have enjoyed compensation increases of up to or above 50ish% while the average salaried employee hasn't been nearly as lucky with a paltry 5ish%. The wealth that is being created is not being shared in an equitable fashion. And, please, if anyone says that that CEO deserves his $10m - $100m bonus check more than the employees under him deserve a check in the amount of 50% of their salaries, your computer will explode in your face. Just a warning.

    Meanwhile, some of these same CEOs have run their business into the ground so much that our government just used our money to bail them out.

    The wealth is already being spread around. Except it's not being spread around to those who could really use some, and who do work to help create it.

    I'm also tired of the, "if I work harder than someone else, I shouldn't be taxed for it" argument. I make more than a nurse or teacher, but somehow, I don't think that I necessarily work harder than they do. I also make way more than a cop or fireman, but I can't say that I work harder, and my cushy office job is certainly not remotely as perilous. So, that argument does not really hold water.

    Regarding this plumber guy... He said on GMA that he was contacted and asked to show up at a rally, but that he happened to be there and Obama showed up. Both sides of the mouth much? I doubt that it was the Obama campaign that contacted him. One could easily conclude that he was a plant. The fact that the McCain campaign has latched onto him could be considered confirmation. And by latching onto him they put him under a spotlight.

    Moreover, he is not in a position to buy the business, and the business's revenues are only $100k. So, he presented himself to appear as one thing, when in actuality he is another.

    What is it they say about the simplest explanation usually being the right one? Mhmm.

    McCain could have easily, and with more validity, made his points without the use of a transparent and pathetic tactic. But, he'd rather use a personification of an exaggeration, (Joe the plumber) because people are tiring of the elusive caricature (Joe six pack) that he was using before.

    What is most ironic about this, is that now he has a publicist (huh?), is looking in a book or record deal (what?), and other such mess, and may now actually be able to parlay his 15 minutes into some money. Possibly more than $250k. And all because he asked Obama a question! He might want to say thanks.


    Further, who got a stimulus check? Because I didn't. I hope you're spending "my" money wisely.

    Lastly, there is nothing at all wrong with wanting to ask questions of your candidates, or with having dreams and goals. Don't try to associate ridiculous opinions to me.

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