Donna Marie--Bad News for PJs
kathymack
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Knowing that I was looking for some more natural curl enhancing products, a fellow curly suggested I check out the Donna Marie curl creme--despite never using it herself. I'll make a note that there is some discussion of this company on the 4a board. When they were starting up, they are accused of "planting" positive reviews on some other boards. I decided to order because their products are different, reasonably priced and they don't charge an arm and a leg for shipping. Regretfully, I only ordered sample sizes--but am about to place an order for full sized products. The website is:
http://beautybydonnamarie.com/store/index.php?
I've used the Lock and Twist Pudding and the CoCo Curling Butter.
Lock and Twist Pudding Ingredients: Deionized water, aloe vera gel, carbomer, kokum butter, mango butter, sweet almond oil, flax seed gel extract, hibiscus extract, carrot seed extract, burdock root extract, agave nectar extract, silver citrate, potassium sorbate and natural fragrance.
I love this stuff! I got incredible soft, tight, bouncy curls. At least as good, if not better, than [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. Hair dried faster, didn't need to be scrunched and it didn't "darken" my hair color.
Coco Curl Butter Ingredients: Organic combination of Deionized water, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Honey, Linum usitatissimum (Flax seed gel) extract, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Coconut oil, Prunus Amygdalus (sweet almond) Oil, carbomer, glycerin, Palm Stearic acid, Emulsifying wax NF, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, tocopherol (vitamin e), Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract, Grapefruit (Citrus Grandis) Extract, Potassium sorbate, Silver citrate, Citric acid and fragrance.
Not quite as curly as with the Lock and Twist Pudding, but still very nice. Also dried soft, bouncy and no need to crunch.
There were two other products in the travel pack. A detangler and a daily conditioner. Both had castor oil, which my hair hates--so it will be passed on to another deserving pj. The travel pack is only $12 for a decent amount of four products.
The Lock and Twist Pudding may get HG status for me and I like it as well as anything I'm currently using--but I've only used it twice. The CoCo Curl Butter was only used once. It deserves a place in the rotation, I don't know if it will make HG status. These products are definitely worth a look see.
ETA: Forgot to mention the incredible volume.
http://beautybydonnamarie.com/store/index.php?
I've used the Lock and Twist Pudding and the CoCo Curling Butter.
Lock and Twist Pudding Ingredients: Deionized water, aloe vera gel, carbomer, kokum butter, mango butter, sweet almond oil, flax seed gel extract, hibiscus extract, carrot seed extract, burdock root extract, agave nectar extract, silver citrate, potassium sorbate and natural fragrance.
I love this stuff! I got incredible soft, tight, bouncy curls. At least as good, if not better, than [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. Hair dried faster, didn't need to be scrunched and it didn't "darken" my hair color.
Coco Curl Butter Ingredients: Organic combination of Deionized water, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Honey, Linum usitatissimum (Flax seed gel) extract, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Coconut oil, Prunus Amygdalus (sweet almond) Oil, carbomer, glycerin, Palm Stearic acid, Emulsifying wax NF, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, tocopherol (vitamin e), Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract, Grapefruit (Citrus Grandis) Extract, Potassium sorbate, Silver citrate, Citric acid and fragrance.
Not quite as curly as with the Lock and Twist Pudding, but still very nice. Also dried soft, bouncy and no need to crunch.
There were two other products in the travel pack. A detangler and a daily conditioner. Both had castor oil, which my hair hates--so it will be passed on to another deserving pj. The travel pack is only $12 for a decent amount of four products.
The Lock and Twist Pudding may get HG status for me and I like it as well as anything I'm currently using--but I've only used it twice. The CoCo Curl Butter was only used once. It deserves a place in the rotation, I don't know if it will make HG status. These products are definitely worth a look see.
ETA: Forgot to mention the incredible volume.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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did you use anything else with the Lock and Twist? What place did it fit into with your routine? and how much did you use?
HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
I see a new trend approaching and FAAAAST!!!!!!
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
I just did leave in and Lock and Twist or CoCo Curl. I don't have as much hair as either of you--and I never use a lot of product. Just a few pea sized amounts to all the sections--raked, scrunched, DevaFused for a few minutes and finished off with radiant dryer after air drying. I don't use gel. Curls and volume last all day.
I know that a lot of people complain that their hair takes much longer to dry with the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. Trust me, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] still has an honored place in the rotation. These products are very light and I used very little. No learning curve for great hair. I suspect they will be just as good for the wavies. Interesting, the website suggests the CoCo Curl for 2s and 3s and the Lock and Twist Pudding for 4. It was great on my fine 3as!
Let me know what you do. Or, if you have questions--ask.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOO! There it is, the MAGIC words. Now you've done it, here I am thinking well a lot of this stuff just doesn't work on wavies.....
:walk:going to check out the link now........
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
You know, I do well with not buying new stuff for my hair for about 2-3 weeks... and then something like this comes along and I HAVE to have it...
Probably be ordering a shampoo bar or three from you as well soon :P Del won't stop pestering me
HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
A lot of thought as to the "consequences" of such a post went into this. I did it because of the reasonably priced samples. At this point, I think you guys know I would not post a non quality item. If you can use castor oil, the travel pack is a steal. One of the reasons I sell the bars and KBB samples is that I want people to get to try the quality products for a minimal outlay of money. I know that it's very difficult to keep up with all of the raves on these boards. I think a 16oz jar of KCC at $26 isn't unreasonable for the quantity. The fact that they don't have samples and smaller sizes makes it out of reach for a lot of people to try without knowing it they like it--especially when you factor in another $10 for shipping.
Since it's my thread, I guess I can spout off a little, LOL. It's only a tiny bit off the topic.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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CGF, you can use a lot of product on your hair that I can't touch. From what you report about your hair, I think this might work well for you. If you're only going to try one thing--for you I'd recommend the Lock and Twist Pudding. I know your hair can take the "heavier" products. If you can manage it, the travel pack would give you the opportunity to try four products--and I know you can do castor oil.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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lol, my b*tching is in no way against you KM. I'm just mad at my own inability to stiffle the urge to buy everything you reccomend because I love your hair... :P
HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
I've gotten some Jane Carter Twist and Lock at Whole Foods, I wonder if it is similar. I need to look and compare ingredients I guess.
Stay at home mama to CCB and a new one on the way in July!
CG since Oct 13, 2008
3a/bish
currently re evaluating my product stash...
Mims, thanks for the compliments. I saw it as questioning if it was for you--not the complaining.
mysteryflavored, I bring this up because there are a lot of us who need to rotate products. If you can use the same product all of the time, you are very lucky. The fact that you don't have to pay postage because of the product availability in NYC is even better. Throw in being a "well known" hair model with special connections--and it's the cherry on top of the sundae! I little off topic, but I will be forever grateful for to you for you [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] video. It's how I apply all of my products now. And you have managed to teach at least one old dog a new trick. So thanks again from the bottom of my heart! My curls thank you, too.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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Just as an FYI - www.azizabeautysupply.com is a bit cheaper (50 cents off the products I was looking at) if you sign up to be a member and 1st time orders has a promo code of FLY02 and get 15% off. The shipping was pretty reasonable as well at $5.60
One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~
In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
You're sweet. (:
I definitely understand the need to rotate -- I almost never use the same products two days in a row. I guess I was just commenting mostly to point out the price.
The ingredients do look really good, I just can't justify paying the extra $$$.
ok, so question - KBB or Donna Marie? or mix the two? I'm liking the KBB line... quite nice.
Also, if [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] didn't work too well for me, is this worth a shot? I too was attracted to the product when it first came out, wanted to give it a whirl... sounds healthy!
can you use it with KC???
LA Looks Curl Gel, Sauve Naturals conditioners Waterlily, CK, Deva Archangel , LOOB (has its days)...
Deva One - LOVE it!!!!!!!
Botticelli's Flax Seed Hair Gel (a DIY!!!) THANKS Botticelli!!!!!!
Curl Junkie Coffee Coco Creme (LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!)
Shea Moisture Smoothie - GREAT stuff!
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for the love of the lens...
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I was just about to place a big 'ol curlmart order for [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] and some Innersense QCC (and a bunch of other stuff I don't need), now I have to start aaaallllll over. I'm armed and dangerous right now - my DH just bought a new snowboard and some other gear, so I have immunity with hair purchases right now. :occasion7:
KM, is this stuff better than IQCC?
3a/b, med texture, med porosity, low dews
I think it's very different than [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. I haven't tried it with anything else. I've only used the Lock and Twist twice and the CoCo Curl Butter once--but they were too good not to pass on to my fellow curlies. Several of us have been searching for more natural curl enhancers. At the price point of the travel kit ($12) I think it's worth a shot. I couldn't use the other two products because of the castor oil. If your hair tolerates castor oil, you have it made.
So not to have fifteen extra posts, I'll try to answer some.
April, it's "lighter" than IQCC and the price is better. I have to be careful because the IQCC can weigh my hair down.
Xcptnl, I don't know how you do it. I think I'm a "shopper" but you are a SHOPPER! I did a web search for Donna Marie and Donna Marie coupon before placing my big order and came up with nothing. You are truly my hero. Your hair is similar to mine and we like many of the same things, so I think you'll like this line.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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Well, on the upside, it looks like the Lock and Twist might be [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]'s KY lube. This is fantastic news.
Last process: 04/05/08 Big Chop: 08/08/09
Currently: Herbal Essences Hello Hydration, Herbal Essences Set Me Up gel (summer only), Boots Curl Creme (winter only)
I hope the products continue to work out as you keep experimenting.
The problem now is . . . how long before I'm itchin' to try it myself?!:goofy:
Accomplice!
You'd think I'd learn, but I placed an order about 7 seconds after reading Kathymack's initial post -- didn't even wait to read the rest of the thread. And my KBB stuff hasn't even arrived yet. Next time somebody looks up the word "suggestible" in the dictionary, you'll see my face (and hair!).
Anyway, thank you both. Thanks a LOT.
CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG
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I'm glad you owned up. When I saw that you had posted, I was going to "out" you. All I can say is, "Thank you."
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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Don't feel bad, jillipoo, I've been guilty of placing orders a minute or so after reading positive reviews!
KM - Does the lock and twist have hold? Did it make it day 2 and beyond? With the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] if I touch my hair too much, I get frizz.
3b/c Curly
CO Wash: Vo5 Vanilla Mint and I add extra peppermint oil
Rinse Out: Biolage Conditioning Balm
Leave-in (when needed): KCKT
Styler: Modern Elixirs Style Serum (peg cones)
Gel (when needed): ArcAngell, trying Loreal Melting Gel
protein sensitive, glycerin sensitive, and I don't think I like aloe vera.
I knew I was going to order some and at I am trying to find better prices for my bad habit! I also re-ordered KBB so I could catch the sale. It's not really bad if you getting it cheaper.....right???
One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~
In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
3b/c Curly
CO Wash: Vo5 Vanilla Mint and I add extra peppermint oil
Rinse Out: Biolage Conditioning Balm
Leave-in (when needed): KCKT
Styler: Modern Elixirs Style Serum (peg cones)
Gel (when needed): ArcAngell, trying Loreal Melting Gel
protein sensitive, glycerin sensitive, and I don't think I like aloe vera.
My volume stayed all day with both. I only used the CoCo Curl Butter once. I was just so impressed with the curls from the pudding. It's a hard read so early in using the products. My hair reacted poorly to the DW yesterday, so I'm dealing with that, too. I've put extra "butter" on it to control the frizz. I raked it through and pulled out curl, but not volume. The funny thing is that I raked the butter through the canopy and top layer--which lost curl. But the back, cut in part, didn't have the raking and it's still really curly--and I used the pudding today. It's confusing. If you give me time, I can better assess. But I know how hard it is with the pj monster.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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