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KBB vs Qhem-which is better for 3b curls?

egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
sooo I was wondering what you guys....specifically 3b type curlies (but of course all are more than welcome to answer!) this is the best line out of these three? im trying to choose one and stick with it! lol.....
3B~Fine, porus, and really long
HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
:farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
"Your head is like a crown on you.
It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
I am captured by your flowing curls."
Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
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  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    ah crap i forgot i wanted to add qhemet biologics into the mix......:roll:
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    kbb hair milk and butter=great!! dont even need gel with this

    sheam and ic fantasia gel=nice, not as great as the above combo

    mhc [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/MYHoneyChild-Type-3-Hair-Creme-p-343.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=myhoneychild-type-3-hair-creme]type 3 hair creme[/buylink] with fantasia ic gel=GREAT! lol use the type 3 sparingly or you will have to shampoo a few times to wash it out. uber moisturizing though!

    qhemet=love love love it, my fav!
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • KynnibKynnib Posts: 999Registered Users
    Ive only used KBB and MHC but my fav is KBB. That is my fav line.
    4a hair. MOD CG routine.

    Present Loves
    -Back on the (rajasthani) henna train! My hair is so much better now.
    -KBB hair butter mixed with Hairveda Cocasta oil
    -Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I've used a lot of KBB--it's the best any and all of it. You can't go wrong. I've used some MHC, it all lives at another house now--I didn't find it anything special. I've only had the qhemets gel and if I still used gel, I'd say it's a keeper. I'm allergic to SheaM, luckily I found it too greasy.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    so the hair milk and butter from kbb you dont need anything else with....i assume it gives good hold then right? o and qhem looks real good but do you think its for me if i want hold and moisture? coz im thinking its just moisture and no hold....which i need kind of a lot of hold. thanks so much guys!!
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • KindaWavyKindaWavy Posts: 383Registered Users
    I'm with kathymack. KBB milk as a rinse out, followed by KBB nectar as a leave-in, plus BRHG or my super-hold FSG combo (which reminds me, I need to post on that), with a little KBB butter to scrunch the crunch is the best.

    I've liked Qhmet OK, but not nearly so much as KBB; same w/SheaM.


    ETA: I'm 2B/C, and feel that I need more hold, so I always add some type of gel on force of habit. I'll have to try it without. The closest I've come to foregoing a heavy hold gel was today. In addition to the KBB products, I used [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] (curl enhancer w/minimal, if any, hold)- and I think it's love.
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    Shampoo bars w/Organic ACV rinses
    KBB milk wash out, Super Silky leave-in
    Donna Marie CCB, KCCC, FSG, and Cocoa Hemp Buttercream to scrunch the crunch.

    2C/3A, slightly past BSL.
  • CaliforniaWavyCaliforniaWavy Posts: 158Registered Users
    For me, the KBB products don't provide hold. They help encourage curls and provide lots of moisture. But, then again, I only have wavy hair that has to be coaxed to even start to curl. I guess it depends if you need hold or not.
    Mod CG since 9/08
    2b/2c Thick Hair
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    pw: wavy

    Currently using:
    Wash/Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut, Giovanni TTT, Elucence MB
    Conditioner: Kenra Moisturizing, Generic Biolage Balm
    Deep Treatment: Jessicurl WDT or GVP mixed with olive oil
    Styling faves: Giovanni DLI, KBB products, Boots, MOP Curl Cream, KCCC, HEBE
    Current Color: Salon highlights



  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    oo ya i need some hold......but they do enhance curls?
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    The reason they enhance curl is that they are so moisturizing and you hair is in such great shape. The KBB products and soap/shampoo bars have done wonders for my hair.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    soo i think my question should have been...which has more hold qhem or kbb? lol
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • rudeechickrudeechick Posts: 6,726Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    The reason they enhance curl is that they are so moisturizing and you hair is in such great shape. The KBB products and soap/shampoo bars have done wonders for my hair.
    Maybe thats why they dont work for me?? They pull my curl out - could it be my hair doesnt need excess moisture (ie is FINALLY healthy again??????)
    Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot:geek:
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    soo i think my question should have been...which has more hold qhem or kbb? lol

    Since KBB doesn't have any hold, it would have to be Qhem.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    oo really? my friends have been telling me kbb has more hold than qhem....not a lot just more. thanks! sooooo if im looking for hold skip kbb and do qhem? does qhem enhance curls? coz maybe its just the enhancement i feel i need lol
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I've only used qhem tea whatever gel. I don't need gel anymore, so I don't use it. KBB products are incredible. You're comparing apples and oranges here.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    lol sooo what your saying is kbb is better :D
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    eh, kbb can have hold, depending on the texture of your hair. i used to use fantasia gel with my kbb until i was experimenting one day and found that it did hold my hair without the gel!

    qhem has great hold for me, plus my hair is soft afterwards. her burdock root butter cream is actually cur enhancing, and works wonderfully on it's on in terms of hold and moisture. i have a picture on her website of the burdock root in my hair.
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    My understanding is that the qhem products are real quality products. You put your order in and it's made when it's "your time." It can take a long while to get them, so I've never really gotten them.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • scarriecarriescarriecarrie Posts: 382Registered Users
    rudeechick wrote: »
    kathymack wrote: »
    The reason they enhance curl is that they are so moisturizing and you hair is in such great shape. The KBB products and soap/shampoo bars have done wonders for my hair.
    Maybe thats why they dont work for me?? They pull my curl out - could it be my hair doesnt need excess moisture (ie is FINALLY healthy again??????)

    I agree with kathymack. The more moisturized my hair is, the better it curls. I haven't used gel since I found KBB hair milk. My hair curls easily with it and I get 2nd & 3rd day hair with even more curls. I don't need products with hold anymore like I used to.
    Mostly 3A/Some 3B Thick/Dry/Colored/SL
    Loving natural products. Some of my favorites are:
    MHC Scalp Cleanser, Donna Marie Miracurl Gelly, Robert Craig Conditionerloveshower.gif
  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    hmmm.....well thanks you guys for all your help. looks like this is going to be really hard for me lol.....i gotta figure out if i need hold or not.....aaand on the qhem website it says that only two products are for my type of hair and that everything else is for more kinky hair.........buuut idk as ppl like empressi who have my type of hair...well i think hers is a little curlier.....love it.....anyone else have any opinions as to which line is more curl enhancing and just overall better? also i think is should change the title of this post...how do you go about doing that? thanks!!
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • scarriecarriescarriecarrie Posts: 382Registered Users
    hmmm.....well thanks you guys for all your help. looks like this is going to be really hard for me lol.....i gotta figure out if i need hold or not.....aaand on the qhem website it says that only two products are for my type of hair and that everything else is for more kinky hair.........buuut idk as ppl like empressi who have my type of hair...well i think hers is a little curlier.....love it.....anyone else have any opinions as to which line is more curl enhancing and just overall better? also i think is should change the title of this post...how do you go about doing that? thanks!!

    I found KBB hair milk by roaming the 4a threads. Don't let curl type stop you from trying things. I think dryness & porosity of hair have more to do with the kind of products your hair needs.

    I have tried KBB & MHC, but not Qhem. KBB is more moisturizing, IMO.
    Mostly 3A/Some 3B Thick/Dry/Colored/SL
    Loving natural products. Some of my favorites are:
    MHC Scalp Cleanser, Donna Marie Miracurl Gelly, Robert Craig Conditionerloveshower.gif
  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    ooo i see....that makes sense...duh! :banghead: lol thanks!
    i wish i could find people with 3B hair that have tried both ya know? :sad11:
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    I've only used qhem tea whatever gel. I don't need gel anymore, so I don't use it. KBB products are incredible. You're comparing apples and oranges here.

    how come you dont need gel anymore?
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    I've only used qhem tea whatever gel. I don't need gel anymore, so I don't use it. KBB products are incredible. You're comparing apples and oranges here.

    how come you dont need gel anymore?

    I started using more natural hair products. The KBB the first week of August and soap bars 9/1. The soap bars make my hair curlier with more volume that lasts all day. With the moisture from the KBB and whatever the soap bars do--I get minimal frizz these days. So, no more gel.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    oooo lucky you!! lol.......sounds wonderful.......i'm pretty sure im gonna go for kbb.....thanks for telling me about it! anything else wonderful it does that you left out? lol...
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    hmmm.....well thanks you guys for all your help. looks like this is going to be really hard for me lol.....i gotta figure out if i need hold or not.....aaand on the qhem website it says that only two products are for my type of hair and that everything else is for more kinky hair.........buuut idk as ppl like empressi who have my type of hair...well i think hers is a little curlier.....love it.....anyone else have any opinions as to which line is more curl enhancing and just overall better? also i think is should change the title of this post...how do you go about doing that? thanks!!

    I'll pm you.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • freshwaterpearlfreshwaterpearl Posts: 305Registered Users
    My hair has 2 different textures but the dominant type is 3b. I've tried both products. The qhem is moisturizing but too heavy for my hair. I wasn't heavy handed with it. Another negative was that it made me breakout. It's a good product but not good for me. After 2 days with this product in my hair my hair had a strange scent like used cooking oil I don't know what other way to describe it. I gave these products away and the individual I gave it to told me that it's their favorite product and they love it.
    KBB is great. I revisited a second time and I love it. My hair looks great and it no longer looks like the desert. The milk is great, the cream is good and I only use the butter on my ends. Everything I use is unscented because the scents are just toooo strong for me. KBB does have more hold in my opinion. HTH
  • breezybabybreezybaby Posts: 347Registered Users
    thanks for asking this question EgyptianCurls! I have been wondering the same thing. I'll wait for my Qhem sample pack to see if I need to try KBB
    3a/3b/3c hair all on one head :thumright:

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    Coconut milk
    Castor oil
    Coconut oil
    Honey
    Shea butter
  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    breezybaby wrote: »
    thanks for asking this question EgyptianCurls! I have been wondering the same thing. I'll wait for my Qhem sample pack to see if I need to try KBB


    ya no problem! let me know what you think of qhem....whats your hair type? o and thanks a lot to freshwaterpearls for posting as she has tried both! :D
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    egyptiancurls, was it okay that i answered you here instead of the pm? didnt want to be rude, but i thought my answer would help everyone :)
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • egyptiancurls89egyptiancurls89 Posts: 607Registered Users
    ya of course it was!! :D thanks for answering.......sooo you think qhem is better for 3b dont ya?
    3B~Fine, porus, and really long
    HG's~Plopping and Homemade FSG!! Thank you BB :toothy10:
    :farao:Proud To Be Egyptian!
    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)
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