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Combing and Detangling (over and over)--Need some help

ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
Today was detangle day. It was not a happy day. :(

I am wondering if other curlies have this problem.

My conditioner is great. The comb glides through well enough, but then when I try to comb through the same section of hair, it is tangled again!

Why is this? Sometimes I have to comb one section (these are small sections) 5 or more times. Even after I do this, when I try to brush through with a brush to finish, the snags are still there, yet, I had just combed them. I just don't understand.

Also, has any curly ever combed from root to end?

I have a difficult time doing this. I don't try to do this on the first pass, but i think after combing the same section of hair 5 times, I should be able to comb straight through. I also have a difficult time trying to part my hair.

Let's just say I have new respect for my mom when she had to wash and detangle me as a kid... :D

Any tips are appreciated. Thanks!

By the way, I use the following for combing/detangling:
Denman (misspelled??) brush...has 7 rows of teeth I think
Seamless comb...medium spaced teeth
Seamless comb...wide spaced teeth
Goody Brush for thick hair
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  • bubbles76bubbles76 Posts: 288Registered Users
    Maybe you need to detangle your hair more often? Like, 2-3 times a week instead of once. It also causes less shedding detangling more often, at least for me. Also, it helps me to detangle with the wide, Denman paddle brush. I haven't tried any other kind. And I do find myself detangling from root to tip, although it should be the other way around :oops: I also make sure that my hair is damp to wet with leave in conditioner every time I let a brush or comb near my head. Anything else causes tangles.

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  • PortaePortae Posts: 337Registered Users
    THis happens with certain sections of my hair. The problem is that when you smooth the tangles out with the comb, you're smoothing out the hair as well. As it begins to curls back up, the strands begin to curl around each other. If you want to keep it untangled, you should loosely twist each section after you detangle it or coil it into a little bun.
  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    Portae wrote:
    THis happens with certain sections of my hair. The problem is that when you smooth the tangles out with the comb, you're smoothing out the hair as well. As it begins to curls back up, the strands begin to curl around each other. If you want to keep it untangled, you should loosely twist each section after you detangle it or coil it into a little bun.

    Yeah, I clip my hair up in little twisty buns after I do each section too. I also pik or brush 2x/day - detangling only once a week wasn't enough! And use TONS of conditioner!
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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    Portae wrote:
    THis happens with certain sections of my hair. The problem is that when you smooth the tangles out with the comb, you're smoothing out the hair as well. As it begins to curls back up, the strands begin to curl around each other. If you want to keep it untangled, you should loosely twist each section after you detangle it or coil it into a little bun.

    Yup. I do the same. If I didn't, it would seriously become a pain in the arse. Twisting and clipping each detangled section keeps my hair from getting tangled again.
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Portae wrote:
    THis happens with certain sections of my hair. The problem is that when you smooth the tangles out with the comb, you're smoothing out the hair as well. As it begins to curls back up, the strands begin to curl around each other. If you want to keep it untangled, you should loosely twist each section after you detangle it or coil it into a little bun.

    Thanks everyone for replying.

    Portae, you hit it right on the spot! But i do lightly twist each section, perhaps i am twisting too tightly or something. Or maybe for reason i feel need to want to come all of my hair from root to bottom as i did when it was relaxed.

    I just need to retrain myself. And maybe detangle twice a week (what a pain).

    Thanks again!
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  • klloydmajesticklloydmajestic Posts: 166Registered Users
    Oh man, I have to detangle at LEAST every other day with the length and volume of my hair. It doesn't help that I'm not a still sleeper, I flop all over the place! I've ditched my brush and combs though. I just use my fingers with condish in the shower almost every day, and it seems to do the trick.
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  • urbancurlurbancurl Posts: 980Registered Users
    Detangling only once a week is a nightmare for me too. So much hair comes out at one time and it take so long. The hot water runs out on me! :evil:
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  • love yourself firstlove yourself first Posts: 5,398Registered Users
    I detangle every time that I wet my hair, which is just about every day. I can go as long as 3 days without detangling, but any longer than that is a bad, bad, bad idea. But I've never done that twisty, pin/knot thing others are describing or had a problem with re-tangling. Once I get the tangles out of my conditioner soaked hair with a paddle or vent brush, I am good to go.
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  • CanocurlsCanocurls Posts: 170Registered Users
    Portae wrote:
    THis happens with certain sections of my hair. The problem is that when you smooth the tangles out with the comb, you're smoothing out the hair as well. As it begins to curls back up, the strands begin to curl around each other. If you want to keep it untangled, you should loosely twist each section after you detangle it or coil it into a little bun.

    This is great advice. I loosely twist each section too.
    What conditioner do you use? Maybe you need one with more slip?
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  • JEMJEM Posts: 57Registered Users
    I just had the worst detangling experience on thursday. I messed up my color and had been sick, so for the week before I was wearing my hair up and at night just taking it down. My hair was so tangled, it was a nightmare. Tons of hair shed and it took forever. I learned an important lesson, always sleep w/ a scarf on my head to prevent tangles and mats.

    Usually detangling 1-2 times a week is fine for me
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  • love yourself firstlove yourself first Posts: 5,398Registered Users
    JEM-

    Your hair pictures are sooo awesome!! I just love your second day hair, third day hair, first day hair.. Ok, I guess that I just LOVE YOUR HAIR period. WOW! :wink:
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  • JEMJEM Posts: 57Registered Users
    Curltopia wrote:
    JEM-

    Your hair pictures are sooo awesome!! I just love your second day hair, third day hair, first day hair.. Ok, I guess that I just LOVE YOUR HAIR period. WOW! :wink:
    :oops: Thanks. You are so sweet. It looks much better since I've gone modified CG, thanks to everyones help here! :D
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  • ms.gms.g Posts: 173Registered Users
    you may need to detangle more than once a week. also combing from the ends to the roots has greatly helped me detangle easier. ive lost much less hair this way.
    all natural.

    my head is full of naps, coils, kinks and thickness. :)

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  • Velvetmug22Velvetmug22 Posts: 409Registered Users
    Portae wrote
    THis happens with certain sections of my hair. The problem is that when you smooth the tangles out with the comb, you're smoothing out the hair as well. As it begins to curls back up, the strands begin to curl around each other. If you want to keep it untangled, you should loosely twist each section after you detangle it or coil it into a little bun.
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    Portae is exactly right as far as my hair is concerned. I have to detangle everyday, or my hair is a knotted nightmare. I also cover my hair with a shower cap while I finish showering to keep my hair out of the way and give the conditioner time to do it's thing. Then I take the twists out and comb it again or rinse or whatever I plan to do. More often then not, I only detangle once then leave it alone for the day. I don't expect my hair to stay untangled because it's just not like that. For me, as long as I detangle at least once I feel I have done my part as far as my hair.
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  • jada1111jada1111 Posts: 829Registered Users
    ms.g wrote:
    you may need to detangle more than once a week. also combing from the ends to the roots has greatly helped me detangle easier. ive lost much less hair this way.

    Yes, this is the BEST way to detangle no matter what your method (i.e., brush, comb, etc.) with LOTS of conditioner. It also depends on what TYPE of conditioner you use. Some are better at detangling than others. Elucence, DevaCurl OneCondition, and Biolage Detangling Solution are VERY good IMO.
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  • mafaldamafalda Posts: 510Registered Users
    I also have that problem with tangles. But I don't wash/wet/ re-wet hair everyday because my hair tends to be dry. It seems like most of you detangle with hair wet everyday as to avoid knots. I can't imagine going through the hassle of thoroughly wetting hair everyday. So for those who do not wash/wet hair everyday, how do you detangle it without breaking up the curl and leaving a poofy mess?
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  • sdlsdl Posts: 67Registered Users
    Bump.
    Anyone?
  • mafaldamafalda Posts: 510Registered Users
    Double Bump-Bump :wink:
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    mafalda wrote:
    I also have that problem with tangles. But I don't wash/wet/ re-wet hair everyday because my hair tends to be dry. It seems like most of you detangle with hair wet everyday as to avoid knots. I can't imagine going through the hassle of thoroughly wetting hair everyday. So for those who do not wash/wet hair everyday, how do you detangle it without breaking up the curl and leaving a poofy mess?

    Hi...i don't detangling everyday, but I do usually we everyday or every other day. I have to half wet just to get it flat enough to pull into a bun otherwise it is too thick and the bun hurts.

    I usually detangle every weekend. During the week when I rewet, i finger comb a bit.

    I have recently discovered a new conditioner...there is a thread by Shygirl on it...Bed Head Moisture Maniac. It works really well for me.

    Hope that helps.
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  • ChickiChicki Posts: 53Registered Users
    I was so frustrated this morning detangling my hair! The knots are driving me nuts. Can someone please tell me of any new "tricks" to detangling??

    Do you guys still think Elucence or One C is the best for detangling. The only problem is, I feel as if I have to use almost the entire bottle to get enough "slip" to detangle w/o ripping out hair :cry: This could be expensive with these conditioners. I CW with Suave Natural Aloe, but it doesn't have enough slip for detangling. Any inexpensive slippery conditioners?? Thanks.

    BTW I am now loving Elucence as a leave-in. My hair feels so moisturized. If only I could get the detangling under control....
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Chicki wrote:
    Can someone please tell me of any new "tricks" to detangling??

    Any inexpensive slippery conditioners?? Thanks.

    Hi Chicki,
    I understand your pain! :D Try Tigi Bed Head Moisture Manaic. It provides great slip. I usually leave it on my hair under a plastic cap with a towel wrapped around for an hour or longer. The longer it stays on, the better the slip.

    At Trade Secret a liter costs $26, there is an 8 oz bottle for $12.

    According to Bunny, Trade Secret always has a 2 for 1 sale in February and August; and MasterCuts will sometimes have a liter on sale for $10.

    Here is a link to the thread.... Keep us updated if you decide to try the conditioner and good luck.

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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    Elucence is one of the best for detangling. Just ordered myself another two bottles. :) Another great one is Tigi Moisture Maniac.

    When you detangle, do you let the conditioner sit on your hair, or do you attempt to comb it right away? It's best to let it sit for atleast 5 minutes, preferably longer. When I CO during the week, I'll apply Elucence almost as soon as I get in the shower, handle my other business ( :wink: ), and then detangle. The steam from the shower seems to help loosen tangles.
    Also, before applying the condish, I run water over my hair and lightly detangle. Just enough to loosen some of the tangles, so that when I really detangle, I have an easier time.

    If this doesn't help, could it be possible that you are in need of a good trim?
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  • solangesolange Posts: 2,539Registered Users
    Suave Professionals Healthy Curls has lots of slip and is a good conditioner.

    I also like to use a shower comb. These detangle so nicely - hardly any strands left in the comb.
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  • ChickiChicki Posts: 53Registered Users
    Thank you Curlybound, I will give it a try and post the results :D
  • ChickiChicki Posts: 53Registered Users
    Shygirl this may be the case also. I'm scheduled for a trim with Yodit on Friday. My last trim was in 10/05. Hopefully it will help!

    Solange thanks for the tip :D
  • mafaldamafalda Posts: 510Registered Users
    Elucence is one of the best for detangling. Just ordered myself another two bottles. :) Another great one is Tigi Moisture Maniac.

    When you detangle, do you let the conditioner sit on your hair, or do you attempt to comb it right away? It's best to let it sit for atleast 5 minutes, preferably longer. When I CO during the week, I'll apply Elucence almost as soon as I get in the shower, handle my other business ( :wink: ), and then detangle. The steam from the shower seems to help loosen tangles.
    Also, before applying the condish, I run water over my hair and lightly detangle. Just enough to loosen some of the tangles, so that when I really detangle, I have an easier time.

    If this doesn't help, could it be possible that you are in need of a good trim?

    Hmm. I might have to try this. I'm always envious when you curlies say that you put in conditioner and voila! Tangles come right out. I'm gonna have to try to leave in the Elucense in for a while before I detangle. Probably lose a lot less hair that way. :oops:
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Be sure to keep a spray bottle near to rewet hair as it dries. Saves on adding more conditioner.
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