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rhassoul clay & aloe vera gel

misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
I finally received my order from Mountain Rose Herbs today. I got a 1 lb. bag of rhassoul clay and a 16 oz. bottle of pure aloe vera gel. My intention is to use these for both hair and face.

I would love to hear from anyone who has used rhassoul or other clays in their hair and skincare routines. As much as I love the Terressentials Hair Wash, they are fairly expensive and I am going through them at a pretty good clip. I wash pretty much every day and do a weekly mask as well. If I can make a fair facsimile, I will be very happy. :thumbup:

So, if anyone has any recipes and thoughts to share on their experiences with these ingredients I would love to hear from you.
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  • ibraidhairibraidhair Posts: 343Registered Users
    I use rhassoul clay every couple months or so to clarify. It's not as drying as baking soda. I still use a good bit of conditioner afterwards. I mix it with enough water to make it look and feel like chocolate pudding. I take a little at a time on my fingertips and massage it into my scalp. Then I smooth some through the rest of my hair. Then rinse it out thoroughly and condition.

    I usually use what's left over as a face mask. Sometimes I mix a bit of honey in it. Smear it on and leave it for 10-15 minutes. Rinse with luke-warm water. But don't rinse too thoroughly. When the clay is rinsing off, your skin will feel a bit slimy. I found that my skin feels best if I rinse just enough to get the clay off, not so much that the "slime" is gone. If that makes sense........ You can use this all over your body. It makes my skin feel so amazing!

    I also like to mix some with sea salt, honey, and a few drops of essential oil for a foot scrub.
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    I don't find rhassoul drying at all, but perhaps it's the way I use it -- as a hair mask, mixed with honey and EVOO (and water). I wash hair first (Chagrin), slather on the clay mix, heat cap for around 1/2 hours, rinse rinse rinse, condition, rinse some more, and style. This seems to add moisture and definition to my hair.

    I've also added extracts of marshmallow, burdock or fenugreek and sometimes yogurt. But the simple mix above is great.

    I only use one brand of AV gel, as a hair gel - Theraneem Leave and Aloe Vera Gel. it's marketed as a skin lotion , but has yet to touch my skin.
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Here's the thread I started about my clay mask experience:

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=56075
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  • aricurlaricurl Posts: 304Registered Users
    Be careful with the mixture. The last time I used this clay, I made it too thick and it was a HUGE problem to rinse out. The clay is very fine and you don't need as much of it as you think. What added to my rinse nightmare was some of it go into my eyes during rinsing and I had a terrible reaction.
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  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    Thank you all for the replies. I'm excited to try it in my hair tomorrow. I think I will try a face mask tonight and will post my results on both tomorrow.

    ibraidhair- So do you use the clay in your hair only every couple of months because it is drying? I am hoping that is not the case as I would like to use it once a week or so. Do you use a traditional conditioner? I have been using only acv rinses and cocoa butter oil or apricot kernel oil for moisture after cleansing. I also like your idea of a foot scrub! I'm definitely trying that!

    Suburbanbushbabe- I like the idea of adding other moisturizing ingredients to the clay for a hair mask. I bought some marshmallow root at my local healthfood store yesterday and would like to find ways to use that as well. I think I bought the same Theraneem & Aloe gel you have. I haven't tried it in my hair yet but did use it today to moisturize my skin after my shower. Wow - it made my skin so soft.

    kathymack - Thanks for the link to your clay thread. It sounds like you've found a routine that's really working for you. So do you attribute your curlier hair to the clay or the KBB?
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  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    aricurl wrote: »
    Be careful with the mixture. The last time I used this clay, I made it too thick and it was a HUGE problem to rinse out. The clay is very fine and you don't need as much of it as you think. What added to my rinse nightmare was some of it go into my eyes during rinsing and I had a terrible reaction.

    Oh ouchhhh! I can't imagine how painful that must have been.

    I will start out with a tiny bit of clay. Did you mix with water only or did you add anything else to the mixture? Also, did you find the clay to be drying or moisturizing for your hair?
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    misspam wrote: »
    kathymack - Thanks for the link to your clay thread. It sounds like you've found a routine that's really working for you. So do you attribute your curlier hair to the clay or the KBB?

    I actually attribute the curlier hair to the soap/shampoo bars combined with the more natural products. It started before I did the clay mask. I decided to do the clay after reading the threads on the natural hair care board about detoxing with the terressentials. I wasn't about to do three clay washes a day! Not only do I add the moisturizing products to the clay--I "steam," which keeps everything moist. It's in the thread. No problem rinsing it out.
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  • aricurlaricurl Posts: 304Registered Users
    misspam wrote: »
    aricurl wrote: »
    Be careful with the mixture. The last time I used this clay, I made it too thick and it was a HUGE problem to rinse out. The clay is very fine and you don't need as much of it as you think. What added to my rinse nightmare was some of it go into my eyes during rinsing and I had a terrible reaction.

    Oh ouchhhh! I can't imagine how painful that must have been.

    I will start out with a tiny bit of clay. Did you mix with water only or did you add anything else to the mixture? Also, did you find the clay to be drying or moisturizing for your hair?

    I mixed mine with coconut milk and a little EV olive oil. It didn't dry out my hair, but any moisturizing effects were probably from the coconut. I mainly used the clay to loosen my curl a bit.
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    Weekly Cleansers: Co-Wash - Suave Coconut or Yes to Cucumbers and Trader Joe's Nourish Spa. Giovanni 50-50 poo on scalp only.
    Moisturizers: Mix of Giovanni Direct with AO Honey Suckle; KCKT; Jamaican Castor Oil, water.
    Sealers: My whipped raw shea butter/oil blend.
    Scalp Oil: Jojoba, Rosemary, Horsetail, Burdock Root, Aloe Vera Gel
    Hairstyle: Protective.

    Henndigo occasionally.
  • ibraidhairibraidhair Posts: 343Registered Users
    misspam wrote: »
    ibraidhair- So do you use the clay in your hair only every couple of months because it is drying? I am hoping that is not the case as I would like to use it once a week or so. Do you use a traditional conditioner? I have been using only acv rinses and cocoa butter oil or apricot kernel oil for moisture after cleansing. I also like your idea of a foot scrub! I'm definitely trying that!
    I'm sorry, I didn't word that exactly right. I don't find it drying really, it just leaves my hair feeling a little strange because it takes off any build-up (even though I don't have much). It's dirt, it's grainy, even though it makes a super smooth paste. It's going to be exfoliating because of that. But it's not harsh. I mainly use it to remove oil build-up and dry skin from my scalp. I don't really need it more often than every couple of months.

    I think adding honey, oil, yogurt, etc sounds wonderful! I think I'll give it a try.

    eta: I forgot to mention..... I don't use shampoo before or after, I use the clay itself to wash my hair. And yes, I use traditional conditioner afterwards. If you add those other things you might could skip the conditioner though.
  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    Wednesday night I used the rhassoul clay as a face mask. After washing my face, I simply mixed a small amount with water to form a paste and applied a thin layer. I left it on for 15 to 20 minutes, until it was completely dry. I rinsed it off with warm water and a soft wash cloth and followed with my normal nighttime product routine.

    The first thing I noticed was how soft my skin felt and how glow-y it looked. Not dry or tight at all. In the past, clay masks have always made my face feel very tight and somewhat itchy, so I was pleasantly surprised. I also saw a noticeable difference in the size of my pores - definitely smaller.

    As much as I like the rhassoul for my face, the clay is nothing short of AMAZING for my hair. I did not follow any kind of recipe but took other's ideas of mixing in some moisturizing ingredients. Below is a listing of the ingredients I used:

    small amount of rhassoul clay
    Mountain Rose Herbs natural aloe vera gel
    marshmallow root decoction (marshmallow root soaked overnight in distilled water, strained)
    few drops of John Masters Organics hair oil
    few drops of both rosemary and lavender essential oil

    After wetting my hair in the shower I applied the clay mixture to my hair from root to tip, combing it through with my fingers and rubbing it onto my scalp. I twisted the length of my hair into a top knot and put on a shower cap. Once out of the shower I covered my hair with my microfiber hair turban and let the mask do it's thing for 30 minutes or so.

    Time to rinse. I made sure to rinse it all out. That part was not difficult at all. At this point I already had great slip, even more than with the Terressentials hair wash. I did a very dilute acv rinse, massaged that around and rinsed that out with the leftover marshmallow root decoction. I did not rinse any of that out.

    While dripping wet I used [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink], scrunched and wrapped my hair in a flour sack towel for a 30 minute perma-scrunch. I let it air dry for 3 hours and scrunched out with 1 drop of apricot kernel oil. The results are fabulous! My hair is very curly, lots of volume and it's softer than it's been in a long time. Some of my curls even begin at the scalp.

    :love7:

    I am quite impressed with the results. It feels good to find something natural and fun to use that really works. As much as I like the Terressentials products, I will be phasing out the hair wash I have left and fully transitioning to the rhassoul permanently. I like that I can use the clay for skin care and hair - a truly all around natural beauty product.

    So thanks again everyone for your responses.
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I have the Aztec Bentonite Clay, it says to add equal parts clay and raw ACV. I just noticed the "raw." It just so happens I bought Braggs raw ACV this week for my hair, so I will add it next time.
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  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    kathymack - Let me know how mixing your clay with the raw acv works out. Do you know what the purpose is adding the acv to the clay as opposed to using it separately as a rinse? Because of your other thread, I also bought a bottle of the Braggs raw acv and that is what I used today in my rinse. It's good stuff!

    Also, do you have that microwave heat cap from curlmart? I am tired of having to reheat a damp towel every 10 minutes or so for a treatment.
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  • ajaneajane Posts: 323Registered Users
    How long would a pound of rhassoul clay last? Mountain Rose Herbs has 1lb for $10. The next size up is 5lb. I don't want to order too much at once when I have not yet tried it!
  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    ajane wrote: »
    How long would a pound of rhassoul clay last? Mountain Rose Herbs has 1lb for $10. The next size up is 5lb. I don't want to order too much at once when I have not yet tried it!

    The 1 lb. bag is the one I bought. It's hard to say just how long it will last. Judging by how much I've used for 1 face mask and 1 hair wash, it should last quite a long time. I'm guessing I have only used 2 teaspoons so far. I wish I had a better answer for you.
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  • ajaneajane Posts: 323Registered Users
    Nope, that's a great answer and information! Thanks!
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    misspam wrote: »
    ajane wrote: »
    How long would a pound of rhassoul clay last? Mountain Rose Herbs has 1lb for $10. The next size up is 5lb. I don't want to order too much at once when I have not yet tried it!

    The 1 lb. bag is the one I bought. It's hard to say just how long it will last. Judging by how much I've used for 1 face mask and 1 hair wash, it should last quite a long time. I'm guessing I have only used 2 teaspoons so far. I wish I had a better answer for you.

    I have had my bag of R Clay for at least 4 years, and I still have a 1/4 of it remaining. Sometimes I have been quite heavy handed when using, but lately I have discovered that I only need a teaspoon for facial masks.
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Windflower wrote: »
    misspam wrote: »
    ajane wrote: »
    How long would a pound of rhassoul clay last? Mountain Rose Herbs has 1lb for $10. The next size up is 5lb. I don't want to order too much at once when I have not yet tried it!

    The 1 lb. bag is the one I bought. It's hard to say just how long it will last. Judging by how much I've used for 1 face mask and 1 hair wash, it should last quite a long time. I'm guessing I have only used 2 teaspoons so far. I wish I had a better answer for you.

    I have had my bag of R Clay for at least 4 years, and I still have a 1/4 of it remaining. Sometimes I have been quite heavy handed when using, but lately I have discovered that I only need a teaspoon for facial masks.

    I bought a two pound jar of Aztec Bensonite Clay. I use 2 T in my hair mask. I suspect it will last a LONG time. 1 lb will last you a long time.
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    @misspam
    Suburbanbushbabe- I like the idea of adding other moisturizing ingredients to the clay for a hair mask. I bought some marshmallow root at my local healthfood store yesterday and would like to find ways to use that as well. I think I bought the same Theraneem & Aloe gel you have. I haven't tried it in my hair yet but did use it today to moisturize my skin after my shower. Wow - it made my skin so soft.

    funny, I have yet to even try the Theraneem on my skin. Mask measurements - I use 1/4 cup of clay, 2-3 tbs each of honey and EVOO, and a few drops of the extracts. And water to mix. My initial mistake with the masks was making them too thick.
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  • swirlygirlswirlygirl Posts: 606Registered Users
    misspam,

    Great to read your rave reviews! I have also tired of the TE wash. :) They are spendy and I was using a lot to wash my chin length hair!

    I've also recently began to wonder if they had anything to do with my increased hair loss. I did notice I would have more shedding with each wash and figured it was coincidence, but now I'm not sure.

    Your review for the homemade version sounds great - especially for a face mask.

    I'm back to the drawing board since I'm back to styling short hair. :alien: I do love the simplicity! :)

    Just wanted to say "hi" and thanks for the great reviews! It's funny we are both phasing out the TE at the same time.
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  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    @misspam
    Suburbanbushbabe- I like the idea of adding other moisturizing ingredients to the clay for a hair mask. I bought some marshmallow root at my local healthfood store yesterday and would like to find ways to use that as well. I think I bought the same Theraneem & Aloe gel you have. I haven't tried it in my hair yet but did use it today to moisturize my skin after my shower. Wow - it made my skin so soft.

    funny, I have yet to even try the Theraneem on my skin. Mask measurements - I use 1/4 cup of clay, 2-3 tbs each of honey and EVOO, and a few drops of the extracts. And water to mix. My initial mistake with the masks was making them too thick.

    Thanks for the info on the ingredients you mix with your clay. Now, when you rinse out the mask, do you then use some kind of low poo?
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  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    swirlygirl wrote: »
    misspam,

    Great to read your rave reviews! I have also tired of the TE wash. :) They are spendy and I was using a lot to wash my chin length hair!

    I've also recently began to wonder if they had anything to do with my increased hair loss. I did notice I would have more shedding with each wash and figured it was coincidence, but now I'm not sure.

    Your review for the homemade version sounds great - especially for a face mask.

    I'm back to the drawing board since I'm back to styling short hair. :alien: I do love the simplicity! :)

    Just wanted to say "hi" and thanks for the great reviews! It's funny we are both phasing out the TE at the same time.

    Oh my gosh! I love love love your new hair style! :happy6: What made you decide to do it? You look so darn pretty and your hair is so shiny!

    So what products are you experimenting with these days? I still like the TE cleansers, but I am happy I have found a cheaper alternative that works even better for me. The rhassoul clay seems to be more gentle.

    I would love to hear what you're using these days. Are you on the KBB craze? It is kind of funny that we got into the detox at the same time and are now moving on at the same time. Great minds think alike I guess. :alien:

    Great hearing from you again, we miss you around here!
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