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Beauty 4 Ashes... Have you tried it?

Hello all :hello2:. I'm new here and I just recently chopped off all of my permed ends. I've been doing a lot of research on the best products to use for my hair. One thing that seems to ring true is that natural products are better than synthetic ones. I found this brand called Beauty 4 Ashes... Has anyone used it? If so, what were your results? If you have pics, please post them. I compared this line to Carrol's Daugther, and this line is 100% natural, which is what I really want. But it costs a pretty penny! Actually, all the natural (or semi-natural) lines that I found were more expensive than any synthetic line. If i'm gonna pay $100 for a hair product kit, it better do everything it promises :afro: ! I searched all over the net for consumer reports, and it's got rave reviews. I couldn't find one bad thing about the line...
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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Hell to the no, and I never will!!!!!
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    I haven't tried it, but what are the prices?
    Natural lines are more expensive, but if you tell me the prices, it might turn out that I can recommend some others that are cheaper, and I'm talking all natural, too.
    Empress, why not? Is it the price?
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    A kit can range from $100 to $150. You can buy everything individually but you get a discount if you buy the kits. Go to www.discoverb4a.com and check it out. Again, I haven't found one bad review on the line. Only good ones. And I did a LOT of research. I was thinking about Carrol's Daughter, but I found that it's not 100% natural. Can you suggest any other lines that are 100%?
    www.thenaturalknowitall.com

    www.mixology101.ning.com
    I'm luvin' my natural self FIRST! :love7:

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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    Wow, that's not cheap. Trust me, hair products should not be that expensive, and this is coming from someone who is willing to pay more for natural products.
    Karen's Body Beautiful is all-natural. No chemicals. Hugo Naturals, Aubrey Organics, and if you live in NYC, Earthly Delight (Whole Foods is where I found it). There are others I've seen, but I'd have to see the ingredients again to tell you with certainty.
    Other brands have some natural products, though not all their products are completely natural. Oyin and Kinky-Curly come to mind.
    There are also a lot of shampoo bars which people here love, and those tend to be all-natural.
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    Thanks for the tips Sairis. I'm definitely going to check those out because I'd rather not pay an arm and a leg for natural products if I don't have to. Have you tried any of them?
    www.thenaturalknowitall.com

    www.mixology101.ning.com
    I'm luvin' my natural self FIRST! :love7:

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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    I use pretty much everything KBB has and love it. The most expensive product I have from her is her great Luscious Locks Hair Mask, and that's $25, but it's something to use once a month. Her hair milk and nectar are fantastic and people here tend to love them.

    I also use the Hugo Naturals Red Tea and Ylang-ylang shampoo and conditioner, and I like them a lot. The conditioner is moisturizing, but still light, so it's great when you can feel your hair might not need so much.

    The Earthly Delight conditioner is nice and rich. They only have one that I've seen, and two shampoos. I have the herbal one. They also have a pomade, which is a bit pricey at $15, since you can get their other products for the same price. They have the address on their bottles, so they might have more products available there.

    I am not a fan of Aubrey Organics hair products, but most people here absolutely love their Honeysuckle Rose conditioner or the White Camelia.

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]Kinky-Curly curling custard[/buylink] is very popular here, but I can't give you an opinion on it since I just used it for the first time and I need a few more tries to make up my mind about it.

    I have not tried the Oyin products or shampoo bars.

    You can also have a look at the all-natural care forum on this page and the swap board if you want to try out something without spending a lot. And, if you have a Whole Foods or other natural/health food store, search around, you never know what you'll find. :)
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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Sairis wrote: »
    I haven't tried it, but what are the prices?
    Natural lines are more expensive, but if you tell me the prices, it might turn out that I can recommend some others that are cheaper, and I'm talking all natural, too.
    Empress, why not? Is it the price?

    Put it this way, when I have the creator of a product with whom I have a good rapport with, and she tells me that they are ripping people off, then it's surely a nono!
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    That's why I was asking. Your response made me think that you knew something. It's terrible that people are so unscrupulous.
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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    I know a bit ;)
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    How exactly are they getting over? Is it the price, or are they not actually 100% natural? Does the product not do what it claims? Truly, I'd still be willing to try it if it does what it says it will... Call me crazy! Again, I've read everywhere about this product, and I haven't found one bad review, not one. Not one customer complaint or claim that it didn't do what it was supposed to. I'm a see it to believe it kind of girl, and generally, every product has at least 1 bad review. It says something when you can't find one review against a product line. Are you sure your friend isn't biased, or did she try it herself? Is it the "ministry" thing? Does she think they're pulling on Christian's heart strings with the bible verses and such?
    www.thenaturalknowitall.com

    www.mixology101.ning.com
    I'm luvin' my natural self FIRST! :love7:

    "And if you don't want to be down with me, you don't want to pick from my appletree."-Erykah Badu


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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    I think it is a matter of the ingredients they're using being good, but certainly not worth that much. Unless that company's products literally have magical properties, I can't see why they're that expensive.
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    I agree the price is high... I've actually been researching EO's and different butters and their benefits... I think I just may develop my own line of products. Then I could trust the quality! Now if I could just find an angel investor! Your hair looks great by the way. And did I tell you how much I love the ED conditioner. The shampoo leaves me feeling squeaky, but I think that's b/c I haven't washed out all of the cones. A few more washes should handle that... but oooh, that conditioner is the best-est! I made that up, but you know what I mean!
    www.thenaturalknowitall.com

    www.mixology101.ning.com
    I'm luvin' my natural self FIRST! :love7:

    "And if you don't want to be down with me, you don't want to pick from my appletree."-Erykah Badu


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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    How exactly are they getting over? Is it the price, or are they not actually 100% natural? Does the product not do what it claims? Truly, I'd still be willing to try it if it does what it says it will... Call me crazy! Again, I've read everywhere about this product, and I haven't found one bad review, not one. Not one customer complaint or claim that it didn't do what it was supposed to. I'm a see it to believe it kind of girl, and generally, every product has at least 1 bad review. It says something when you can't find one review against a product line. Are you sure your friend isn't biased, or did she try it herself? Is it the "ministry" thing? Does she think they're pulling on Christian's heart strings with the bible verses and such?

    not at all. but put it this way, find the ingredients and then look up the prices of everything, and you tell me if their price is justifiable. if you think it is, then so be it.

    certain things i expect to cost a certain amount, but there are other things that make me want to tell people to kiss my @$$. but i mean, if someone wants to pay $100 for glorified shea butter (im not talking about theirs, moreso thinking of long lovely locks and their OUTRAGEOUS price increase for what? glorified emulsified shea butter) then hey, kudos to them.

    fine look, i found some of their key ingredients:

    [FONT=arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Arial, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif] Coconut Milk & Juices, Burdock, Babassu, Goat Milk, Buttermilk, Silk & More[/FONT]


    coconut milk and burdock root are fairly cheap. babassu is slightly expensive, but goat milk costs less i believe. if it's silk protein that's not terribly expensive either, and buttermilk damn sure aint expensive. so im gonna pay $70 for that? yeah freaking right!!!! anita grant's stuff, in USD doesn't even come to that (unless you order her block of rhassoul).

    8 f***ing ounces of shampoo for $70, that doesn't sound crazy to you? sh*t... lol

    believe me, they wouldn't get nan over on me. im looking at the ingredients and there is nothing so damn exotic here or something hard to obtain. what the hell, did they swing through the jungle and travel over the hills for ingredients?

    (but here's my own take, they slapped CHRISTIAN on top of it, why? to make everyone run and say OH BUT THEY'RE CHRISTIAN I MUST SUPPORT THEM!)

    but i won't knock their hustle. there is some person(s) out there that will pay $70 for something that should cost at least $20.
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    oh, and where did you find your reviews?

    cause even head honcho pj central they sort of shy away from their line...

    "I was thinking about trying them - and I have asked and searched around on all the forums and no one has tried them - and everyone thinks to stay away from them. And now I agree. They are overpriced and whenever I send emails about samples or ingredients they don't respond. And it turns me off that for the price - the products last @ 60 days. So I'm still looking for all natural products. I'll keep y'all posted."
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    I hear you! You're funny as heck... swinging through the jungle... you never know, they may have had a Tarzan moment. Again, I'm really looking into mixing up some of my own stuff. That's how Carol's Daughter was started and Karen's Body Beautiful. Everybody's going natural today, like they went crazy over sushi and tofu a few years ago. I'm gonna cash-in. I'm a Christian but I'm not gonna use that as a marketing point. And I'll keep it reasonable, considering the quality. I'm glad I didn't buy it. ED is all natural and you can get it for about $12 @ Willner's. I'm still curious though... Again, when I have cash to blow, I'll probably try it just to compare. Then if it works, I'll steal the recipe and change it a little and call it my own! Te-he-he :evil4:! J/K!
    www.thenaturalknowitall.com

    www.mixology101.ning.com
    I'm luvin' my natural self FIRST! :love7:

    "And if you don't want to be down with me, you don't want to pick from my appletree."-Erykah Badu


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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    hehe! girl believe me, ill try almost everything so im sooo not biased, but i will call out bullsh*t when i see it. it's just a hustle dear, just a hustle. one that i wont fall for.

    don't get me started on carol's daughter, damn commercial crap. i hate their stuff! i like wait, 2 things, when my hair is straight, the end. and karen told me she would NEVER cheaper her products so that made me happy.
    Lady Hasytal in the Land of Product in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
    "Trust is knowing your SO would do the right thing in the face of strange vagina." Nej
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    If i'm gonna pay $100 for a hair product kit,

    It had better have 18 carat gold flakes in it.
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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    Haha, you're damn right, SBB!
    And I'm glad that you're enjoying the Earthly Delight condish, ALN. It's fab.
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  • A_la_Nap-turalA_la_Nap-tural Posts: 409Registered Users
    empressri wrote: »
    oh, and where did you find your reviews?

    cause even head honcho pj central they sort of shy away from their line...

    I just googled "reviews for beauty 4 ashes". It was mostly articles and threads like this from the long hair care forum. A lady did an article comparing B4A and Carol's and she liked B4A better. I'm in no rush to go broke though. I know you saw the market crash. I'll save my pennies thank you!
    www.thenaturalknowitall.com

    www.mixology101.ning.com
    I'm luvin' my natural self FIRST! :love7:

    "And if you don't want to be down with me, you don't want to pick from my appletree."-Erykah Badu


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  • PatlovePatlove Posts: 1Registered Users
    I had serious scalp issues that was caused by several years of neglect, bad advice from stylist, and poor dieting. Although, I am have always had longer hair once I was dianosed with lupus my hair begin to thin. That is when i became very depressed. My doctor recommended that I try Beauty 4 Ashes ADP system and it worked over a four month period to thicken my hair. They not only sold me a product, but prayed continously for me and answered the hardest questions of why God had chosen me to suffer, so I thought. Their products are good, but their customer service and prayer is even better. just sharing my thoughts. God is real, i am no longer depressed, and i am fully healed.:happy7:
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    My hair prefers the more natural product. Hated Carol's Daughter. Aside form the KBB, there's Curl Junkie, Komaza, Donna Marie, Darcy's Botanicals--to name a few. Their prices are significantly lower. I'll pm you.
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  • belasunabelasuna Posts: 599Registered Users
    I did use B4A and found that the products kept my hair moisturized more than any other poo or condish and I've tried a lot. My hair was glossy, healthy, and soft with well defined curls. I think the products are expensive because they make them on order because they don't have any preservatives in them. And this drives the production cost up. They also must be used before they expire or mold and bacteria can develop causing loads of other hair/scalp problems. This is the reason I stopped using them as I have severe allergies to mold. I could not use the product quick enough before they went bad. If you can afford it, I truly think there is nothing better than B4A.

    Don't know why some were so harsh on the products. It's not necessary to bash and be vulgar.
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  • 1nicelady1nicelady Posts: 1Registered Users
    I was just looking to buy this product as well but i found this review on youtube. Hope this helps. /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZ0qQxXp-ZX4" class="Popup
  • ldyoungldyoung Posts: 1Registered Users
    I purchased the curl maintainance system (and it ain't cheap!!) and while it did emphasize the curl pattern and stop frizziness after 1-2 days my hair was so knotted and tangled/clumped together I had to start the process over again. (I have half the product left)
    After speaking to their customer service she said everyone responds differently and washing hair every 2 days is to be expected. Not from my perspective!!
    I will use up the left over product (clarifying with apple cider vinegar rinse the next day) but I cannot recommend this product for ongoing/daily usage.
  • NaturemademeNaturemademe Posts: 14Registered Users
    I've tried it! I'll admit that I read the reviews on this product and all I could find was great reviews. I had just gotten paid and figured what the hell. I made my purchase, told them my story ( After my son was born, my hair started to brake off like no other. My hair line even receded close to 2 inches on the sides.) and waited. It arrived after 3 weeks.. 3 WEEKS! Well they did say it takes time to make the product so I was all too happy to have this product work for me. I used the God Head line. I opened the box and saw a paper on the top of bottles, vials and jars. Thinking this was my prayer that I was promised, it was only a list of the products and how to use and store it. No prayer for me. Maybe they could tell that I just believed in God but was not affiliated with any one type of religion (?). Any who, I made sure to use up the products within the 3 month shelf life ( all that money was not going to sit in the garbage or look pretty on my bathroom window sill). After the 3 months my hair was breaking even more. My scalp started to strip and bleed ( maybe i was allergic? ) and i was mortified. The first time i used it my hair didn't feel soft, my transitioning hair was not easier to manage. The wide tooth comb had clumps of relaxed and Natural hair in it. When I air dried my hair I discovered split ends that split in three parts on one strand. I was shook to the point where I just cried. The next week I went out and tried Carol's Daughter. That too did not work for me. Down right frustrated I read up on Vitamins and headed to GNC and spent $8 on one bottle of Skin, hair and nails. Since then I've been taking them and my receding hairline is no more. I co-wash with an affordable conditioner and de-tangle with VO5. The bottom line to my story is that not because the masses have great reviews on a product, it doesn't mean it will be great for you. Spending more money on anything doesn't mean that it's a great product.
  • leopardgirl44leopardgirl44 Posts: 3Registered Users
    i had bald spots from a scalp fungus that i got from wearing my best friends wig for a week or so. the doctor's cream was too expensive so i tried the adp scalp food cream. it did not sting. my hair patches or bald spots appeared right behind left ear, back of my neck and center of my head. after one month my hair filled back in. it worked for me and i did not have to use the medicated cream from the doctor with all its side effects.:female:
  • pinkandgreenlifepinkandgreenlife Posts: 2Registered Users
    if you need hair growth yield measurable results. if you need something that smells great then i would try John Frieda or Paul Mitchell, Redken. beauty 4 ashes products defintely have a natural smell of herbs. They do not leave you smelling weird, but they do not smell like Bath and body works. i suggest you start out with one or two products to see if you like them and to mix them in with your normal hair regime.