Wet Brushing

QurlyqtQurlyqt Registered Users Posts: 111
I've seen this method/technique mentioned on this board and in some online photo albums. What is it?

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  • NatakueNatakue Registered Users Posts: 319
    yea, i've seen this too but never really understood it...anybody?
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  • babyphat21babyphat21 Registered Users Posts: 124
    It can be either 1) where you comb and then brush your conditioner through with a paddle-type brush, 2) where you brush your hair (wet) after you apply your styling products. Some people do both. I find the first method helps my curls clump nicely.
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  • QurlyqtQurlyqt Registered Users Posts: 111
    Thanks Babyphat21. I wondered if anyone was going to answer.

    Anyone else have clarification for us?
  • BiancaBianca Registered Users Posts: 2,492 Curl Connoisseur
    babyphat21 wrote:
    2) where you brush your hair (wet) after you apply your styling products.

    This is what I do. After I get out of the shower, I put gel on my edges and smooth them down with my fingers. Then I run my brush under cold water and brush the gel from my edges down through the rest of my hair.
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  • love yourself firstlove yourself first Registered Users Posts: 5,398
    I wet my hair, apply a palmful of conditioner all over, and then use a vent or paddle brush to detangle. That is what I mean by wet brushing.

    I've tried brushing product in but it doesn't do that much for me - same with combing.
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  • kandesnbkandesnb Registered Users Posts: 161
    I wet brush also. I saturate my hair with conditioner, let it soak in for a few minutes, then wet brush it through. Lately I've been brushing the product through as well because I don't distribute product very well with my fingers anymore.

    If I don't wet brush my conditioner through, my hair just won't look right. There have been a few times when I finger combed my conditioner through and my hair turned out okay but...I like to wet brush to ensure that I've gotten as many tangles as possible. This keeps my hair looking more uniform and from being tangled like crazy.

    For those that do wet brush with a denham/paddle brush, do you always have hair left in the brush? I do. I'm not too concerned about it because I know hair naturally sheds and I haven't noticed a difference in my hair's thickness.
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  • QurlyqtQurlyqt Registered Users Posts: 111
    Thanks again to you guys for replying.

    Bianca - Are your roots the part of your hair that requires the most taming? When you brush it to the ends, is the rest of your hair getting gel also? Or do you just like it tamed at the root and fluffy as you get more toward the ends?

    Curltopia - Appreciate the explanation. I believe I've used your technique but I have to section my hair off and apply the conditioner.

    Kandesnb - cute pics! I use the Denman D3 and yes, my hair sheds in the brush but not an alarming amount.
  • Curlee QCurlee Q Registered Users Posts: 523
    My hair sheds in my denman also, but not alot at all. I am amazed by how much I dont shed.
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  • NatakueNatakue Registered Users Posts: 319
    thanks for the detailed explanations!
    a crazy 4a/3c mix
    o/s; thin; thready/cottony?
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  • babyphat21babyphat21 Registered Users Posts: 124
    Kandes, what does brushing in product do for you? Once I "wet-combed" my hair into a side ponytail with gel and it looked nice for a while, then I got extreme shrinkage... which I never get... I only have about 4-5 inches of shrinkage. When I got done my ponytail looked like it was 3 inches long!! :shock:
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  • kandesnbkandesnb Registered Users Posts: 161
    babyphat21 wrote:
    Kandes, what does brushing in product do for you? Once I "wet-combed" my hair into a side ponytail with gel and it looked nice for a while, then I got extreme shrinkage... which I never get... I only have about 4-5 inches of shrinkage. When I got done my ponytail looked like it was 3 inches long!! :shock:

    Brushing helps distribute my product. When I do it, I like for my hair to be soaking wet. Also, when I wet brush, my hair clumps really well and my curls are actually bigger and stretched out. Now, if I wet brush my hair when it's damp or towel-dried, I end up with stringy curls and shrinkage that look like :shock: . It ends up looking like a curly afro, if that makes any sense at all. Also, I've noticed that when I use creamy, heavy products, I have less shrinkage.

    I really need to take some pictures of this. Most of the pictures on my fotki are of styled hair and not hair "during the process" of styling. You know?
    Yooooo! ;-) Coily and Springy 3c!
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  • curliejcurliej Registered Users Posts: 55
    Question - is wet brushing a part of your final styling routine or do you rinse the conditioner out after you wet brush?
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  • BiancaBianca Registered Users Posts: 2,492 Curl Connoisseur
    Bianca - Are your roots the part of your hair that requires the most taming? When you brush it to the ends, is the rest of your hair getting gel also? Or do you just like it tamed at the root and fluffy as you get more toward the ends?

    My edges get crazy if I let them. When I apply products all over my hair, I get defined, clumped curls (if I'm using the right product and all the stars are lined up in my favor :lol: ), but my edges seperate and get really weird. I don't like to tye on a scarf becuase it looks odd to me to have flat smooth, wavy edges and big poofy hair the rest of the way unless it's a ponytail.

    So the the gel is mostly for my edges. When I brush it through, some gel is distributed to the canopy and sides of my hair. I don't slather it all over like other products though.

    I hope that helps you a little!
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    Conditioner: Herbal Essences NOYF Conditioner mixed w/ Coppola Keratin Complex Conditioner

    + TJ Nourish and Olive oil combo.
  • babyphat21babyphat21 Registered Users Posts: 124
    Hmmm... I may have to try this. My hair was only a little wet when I tried this before. Kandes, what styling products do you use?
    SUPER THICK 3C zig-zags, blackish with random natural brown/red highlights. Searching for my exact heritage, 'cause I don't have a clue...
  • NatakueNatakue Registered Users Posts: 319
    ok, i'm feeling kinda dense :oops: i detangle in the shower when i co-wash with a brush...is this wet brushing too, or does it have to involve finishing products?

    and some people are saying they apply conditioner and then wet brush, but they don't distribute product by wet-brushing...but isn't that what happens after you brush your hair that you've put conditioner in...or is this your co-wash process you were referring to?

    sorry :oops:
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    o/s; thin; thready/cottony?
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  • nubianqt86nubianqt86 Registered Users Posts: 70
    I brush my conditioner through my hair as part of my cowash process.
  • AfroCurlsAfroCurls Registered Users Posts: 117
    Wet brushing doesn't damage your hair? :shock:

    I was always taught that brushing your hair wet would destroy your ends. I may have to start if it doesn't though.
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  • babyphat21babyphat21 Registered Users Posts: 124
    It depends on what your hair likes. I have extremely strong hair, as I figured out when I had a perm. I relaxed my hair twice within a week because my ends were still not straight, and I flat ironed my hair twice a day but it was still armpit length :shock:

    The point: No, wet brushing is not damaging if you are careful and use the brush best for your hair. I have to use a cushioned paddle brush with TIPS or else I get jacked up ends. Some have to use tip-less. It all depends on you. :wink::wink:
    SUPER THICK 3C zig-zags, blackish with random natural brown/red highlights. Searching for my exact heritage, 'cause I don't have a clue...
  • Curlee QCurlee Q Registered Users Posts: 523
    My hair doesnt mind it either. I soak it up with conditioner, then comb through starting from the back working to the front. I also apply my styling product like this in the same manner using the denman.
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  • QurlyqtQurlyqt Registered Users Posts: 111
    Bianca, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
  • CheleighCheleigh Registered Users Posts: 552
    AfroCurls wrote:
    Wet brushing doesn't damage your hair? :shock:

    I was always taught that brushing your hair wet would destroy your ends. I may have to start if it doesn't though.

    My hair loves it now. At first, I wasn't using the right technique for my hair, and it balked. But now, after I've sat with conditioner on it for at least an hour, and rinse well under strong running water first, the Denman 4 glides through my very tangle-prone hair like butter (I finger detangle slightly first).
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  • love yourself firstlove yourself first Registered Users Posts: 5,398
    I agree that "stronger" hair tolerates brushing. For example, my hair loves it :D with the major caveat that I have to use the right brush. My favorites are vent and paddle brushes, and I only use them to detangle my hair when it is saturated with conditioner. I use the plastic brushes with little balls on the end.

    Two different types of brushes are horrible for my hair. I would not recommend either of these brushes, unless you have a very different hair type.

    1) Nylon bristles. These have lots of short nylon pieces all clustered together, and are not smooth plastic. These detangle and clump my hair but the bristles split my curls apart and create huge volume :shock:

    2) Even worse is the Denman D4. The handle is too short to be used comfortably, and I have small hands. Even worse, this brush gives me HUGE, FLUFFY, POOFED OUT, DRY hair. :x :x :evil: I've tried it twice now with products that always work for me, so I know it is the brush. The only "good thing" is that my hair is baby soft when I use this brush. But that baby softness is not worth having the huge, blah, dry, fluffed out, bad looking hair. Also, this brush feels like a combination comb-brush because the rows are so close together and long.. I don't like combs so maybe that is also why this is awful on my hair.
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  • AmnerisAmneris Registered Users Posts: 15,117
    Agree about the strong hair because mine is definitely strong - my strands are coarse and thick and hard to process and grow quickly - and it loves brushing. I usually brush wet hair loaded with conditioner to detangle, and then brush product through wet hair if I use any. I also brush dry hair (dampened with a little water, oil and moisturizer) very gently at night. The trick is to work in fairly small sections - I divide my hair in 8 and clip the sections to separate, work from the ends up and go very slowly and gently, using your fingers to help detangle the stubborn knots.

    For me, the brush HAS to be seamless and has to be a big paddle brush to handle all my hair. I used to use Denmans, but I have since found that the Aveda and Paul Mitchell paddle brushes are more widely spaced and easier to handle, and widely spaced bristles are good. I heard good things about wood pin brushes, but my hair was too strong and snapped the pins. I will use a boar bristle brush to slick hair back, but not to detangle because it doesn't grip well enough. I like those little brushes Black men use to get waves. Round brushes get tangled in my hair, so even if my hairdresser is blowing my hair out, she uses a paddle brush. I also hate the nylon bristles, and I never, never use those brushes with the metal pins with the round plastic tips on top - they break and pouff my hair unbearably.

    For me, brushing makes my hair really, really clumpy and curly with a fair amount of shrinkage, so if I am creating a voluminous, curly look I am all about the brush. If I want stretchage, I use a wide toothed comb.
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  • SYBSYB Registered Users Posts: 305 Curl Neophyte
    Wetbrushing gives me far less shrinkage, than when I use a comb or nothing at all! Also my products are distributed better this way too! I also credit the long length that I have to wet brushing as well! I know that alot of curly experts don't recommend that a brush ever be used on curly hair, but I personally think that they are wrong! In some cases it works wonders for some uf us!
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  • kandesnbkandesnb Registered Users Posts: 161
    babyphat21 wrote:
    Hmmm... I may have to try this. My hair was only a little wet when I tried this before. Kandes, what styling products do you use?

    Sorry for replying so late.

    Conditioners: Elucence MB, Paul Mitchell The Conditioner
    Leave Ins: The 2 above and Jamaican Mango & Lime Cactus Leave In
    Styling/Gel: GF Soft Curl Creme, Jojoba Oil (by Queen Helene), IC Fantasia w/ Sparkelites, Sebastian Wet Gel, Smooth & Shine Gel (Extra Hold), Redken Ringlet (I think this is a light gel)

    I put the stylers with the gels because the majority of the time, I just apply a gel on top of my leave in and I'm done. I am still experimenting to find my Holy Grail combo. :-) I looooove the Soft Curl Cream, Redken Ringlet, and IC Fantasia Gel. I actually love all the products I use. :lol: I want to keep my products to a mimnum but...it's really hard when you read reviews about others. Like....Curly Nikki has put me onto Sebastian Potion #9. I HAVE to buy some of that!!! 8)
    Yooooo! ;-) Coily and Springy 3c!
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  • Anthro IncarnateAnthro Incarnate Registered Users Posts: 555 Curl Connoisseur
    Amneris wrote:
    I used to use Denmans, but I have since found that the Aveda and Paul Mitchell paddle brushes are more widely spaced and easier to handle, and widely spaced bristles are good.

    Do you have control issues with the size of the Aveda brush? I think we have the same one (the square detangler), but compared to the Denman, it seems to leave more tangles in my hair than it removes. I have a hard time getting around the back of my head and controlling direction with the handle alone, and the paddle is too wide for me to wrap my hand around. Therefore, lots of missed spots and less leverage when I hit a rough patch.

    With the Denman, I wrap my hand around the bristles and not the handle, so it's like I'm finger combing with lots of fingers. It sails through tangles but takes a lot of hair with it. I am amazed at how much hair I pull out of the Denman compared to the Aveda, but I don't feel the pain half as much, if that makes any sense.

    Also, do you use the Aveda under the shower spray? I'm concerned that it has a venting hole large enough to let water in, but not large enough to let it back out. I know what happens to brushes if you don't regularly take them apart and clean under the base, and it seems like the Aveda can't be taken apart.
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  • st. louis bluest. louis blue Registered Users Posts: 404
    Where do you get the Aveda brush?

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