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Soooo frustrated trying to find products!

FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
I am getting so frustrated trying to find products without cones in them. Is driving me nuts!! I am a real product junkie so it is really frustrating.

Think I looked at every bottle in hairdressers warehouse on the weekend!!! (and got asked about 10 times if I needed help!, from past experience they never can help!).

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  • a curly qa curly q Posts: 248Registered Users
    I feel your pain. luckily I'm not too much of a product junkie and have found one or two products that work for me and stuck with them. It's annoying when i want to try new stuff though.
    What about the Bedhead range? for some reason I thought they didn't have any cones.
    I know what you mean bout the hairdresser warehouses though. The lady pointed me to a deep treatment and i said "that has silicone in it" and she was like "no it doesn't" she had no idea what i was talkin about lol.
    Hope the search gets easier :thumright:
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  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    I think one of the Bedhead range is cone free. I've had some bad allergic reactions to Bedhead products in the past though.

    I love Biolage conditioning balm but would like another conditioner as I like to rotate them.

    Can't find a leave-in with no cones.

    And am grumpy that they don't sell LOOB here!
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    I feel your pain!
    I'm just starting out and its so damn hard! Especially when nearly everyone here is in the us or uk and are able to get their hands on stuff. There's hardly anything available here.

    Hairhouse warehouse are crazy they always ask me a million times if I need a hand, and look at me weirdly when I just wondering for ages looking at labels. And I agree they're not very helpful.

    On recommendation of others I'm currently using mastey sulphate free shampoo (once a week if that, over conditioned end), biolage conditioning balm, and I'm co washing with a pears conditioner (from the supermarket only a few $) when I need it. I got my hands on FOTE (aloe gel) and I'm currently using VO5 melting Gelee, which i got the ingredients check on here, it only cost me $2.

    Have you checked out your local health food store?

    I think I read somewhere on here that one of the Garnier fructis conditioners is cone free.

    Atm I'm contemplating ordering some stuff online, but I'm waiting for my poor student budget to allow me to do so.
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  • Curly^ChrissyCurly^Chrissy Posts: 27Registered Users
    Hi All,

    I use an Australian organics conditioner and Eden organic shampoo, which both can be found a some Coles supermarkets. Both are reasonably prices for organic products.

    As for gels - sorry I can't be of much help there I use Jessicurl which I got when it was still being imported into Australia by an independent supplier.

    Chemists and health food stores can be great places to pick up CG friendly products.
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  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    I have allergies to alot of the natural products which is a bit of a pain. Am allergic to lots of essential oils.

    I have decided to relax on the cones a bit as I think The Mastey Triate poo will probably get the weaker cones out.

    Got some Redken Ringlet (d-cone) yesterday and am quite pleased with the results. Also got a Matrix curling gel (with a water soluable cone), will try that tomorrow.

    Have always been a total product junky and was feeling wayyy to restricted!! lol
  • a curly qa curly q Posts: 248Registered Users
    Another thing I heard, it might also cause reactions, but catwalk doesn't have any cones either. Just something else to put out there.
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  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    Yeah can't use the catwalk stuff. A lot of it does have cones in it.

    Tried L'Oreal techni.art a-head web this week in my attempt to find something like LOOB. Was interesting! Very scary stuff to use! Caused good clumping and good curls and my hair doesn't normally clump. Does have a cone in it and does have a producty feel if you put lots in. And is expensive! $25.

    Got a small tube of KMS curling balm too. Has d-cone in it but quite far down the list and after scrunching in wet hair I could feel no product on my hands so don't think it would cause much trouble for CG. Didn't like how it was drying though! A bit frizzy.
  • AmdaAmda Posts: 251Registered Users
    Curl memory up spray from L'Oreal techni.art is coneless, although it has PEG-14 dimethicone...but I'm pretty sure that the PEG means it's water soluble.
    Fine and thin 2C in Australia
  • twoprincestwoprinces Posts: 29Registered Users
    I read here that L'Oreal elvive nutrigloss leave in (pink bottle, available at all supermarkets) is cone free. I went through the list of ingredients and although I'm still VERY new to this, it looks safe to me.

    I can type out the list if you want?
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    You need to get the masque/treatment in the nutrigloss, the conditioner here does have cones in it.
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    I just got the isamy "i'm twisted" curl spray gel from priceline, made in us (people were talking bout it here and I needed new gel)

    ingredients are;
    water/aqua, acrylates/ hydroxyesters acrylates copolymer, PVP, acrylates/ beheneth-25 methacrylate copolymer, gylcerin, PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil, aminmethyl propanol, fragrance/ parfum, disodium EDTA, DMDM hydantoin, iodopropynyl butylcarbamate, benzyl benxoate, benzyl salicylate, butyphenyl methylpropional, hydroxyiosohexyl 3-cyclohexene, carboxaldehyde, limonene, linalool

    (sorry if there is spelling mistakes... bit hard trying to read and write while holding the bottle)

    I think the curl cream if I remember was cone, but I'm unsure.

    the spray gel is interesting never use one before so still experimenting. It does seem to make my hair feel a little dry tho, but usually only on the 2nd day.

    I think it exciting that we are starting to get more amercian products here.. hopefully one day most if not everything the american curlies talk about will be available.

    Oh i did find a website that said they had AO products but the website was so dodgy that I was suss on it and left :laughing9:
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

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  • twoprincestwoprinces Posts: 29Registered Users
    A couple of conditioners to add to the list: Sukin (found at health food shop and chemist), Hemp and Melrose (health food shop). I'm not sure what either of them are like, but the ingredients were safe. I've used Sukin moisturiser and it's divine. I didn't realise they had a hair care range.

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fsukinorganics.com.au%2F" class="Popup

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fcrueltyfreeshop.com.au%2F%3Fmain_page%3Dindex%26amp%3BcPath%3D1_8%26amp%3Bzenid%3Db22a51fcb82d41f0f6ad8f56583de9c2" class="Popup (Hemp)

    Others in the display which I didn't have time to check for safe ingredients: Miessence and Kosmea. This site has lots of suggestions:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organicsaustraliaonline.com.au%2Fcategory60_1.htm" class="Popup

    Not sure of the safety of these:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.herbalserenity.com.au%2Fherbal%2Fhome.php%3Fcat%3D163" class="Popup
  • EstelleEstelle Posts: 89Registered Users
    Feralcurls wrote: »
    Can't find a leave-in with no cones.

    I have seen that many CG curlies use Kinky-Curly Knot Today or Giovanni Direct Leave-In conditioner.:read2:
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    I've tried the Kosmea conditioner. It was rather expensive at $18.95. Was ok. Not super moisterising compared to Biolage conditioning balm. And got some itchiness from it (yes I am a hopeless case).
  • EstelleEstelle Posts: 89Registered Users
    Feralcurls wrote: »
    I've tried the Kosmea conditioner. It was rather expensive at $18.95. Was ok. Not super moisterising compared to Biolage conditioning balm. And got some itchiness from it (yes I am a hopeless case).

    Don't give up Feralcurls. Sometimes I, too, am fed up with finding the right products for my hair.
  • twoprincestwoprinces Posts: 29Registered Users
    Feralcurls wrote: »
    You need to get the masque/treatment in the nutrigloss, the conditioner here does have cones in it.
    I went through the leave in conditioner ingredients with a fine tooth comb (I searched anything I wasn't sure about) and it seems to be safe ... it's the one that looks like a little kids drink bottle (with a pop top lid).

    It has glitter in it, so I'm not sure if it will stay a regular part of my routine ... I kinda look like a fairy exploded on my head.
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    Oh I did see Toni and Guy beach waves spray, and in a glance the ingredients looked decent :)
    it's got a silver bottle, white lid and pink writing on it as far as I can remember - I saw it in target.
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

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  • mandy8mandy8 Posts: 2Registered Users
    Just bought today a product called 'Organic Instict' from Priceline (500ml btl $12, 250 ml $8 Has anyone else tried this?? No silicones & has some of the ingredients listed in the CG book (like citric acid, lavender oil, quite a few herbel extracts actually. I will try it and let u all know what I think. I was about to fork out to get products shipped from the U.S but not a good time with dollar down, plus shipping costs.
    Wish me luck
  • EstelleEstelle Posts: 89Registered Users
    mandy8 wrote: »
    Just bought today a product called 'Organic Instict' from Priceline (500ml btl $12, 250 ml $8 Has anyone else tried this?? No silicones & has some of the ingredients listed in the CG book (like citric acid, lavender oil, quite a few herbel extracts actually. I will try it and let u all know what I think. I was about to fork out to get products shipped from the U.S but not a good time with dollar down, plus shipping costs.
    Wish me luck

    GOOD LUCK and let us know about it.:toothy10:
  • ParasiteEveParasiteEve Posts: 8Registered Users
    Hi,

    I bought Alchemy Conditioner & Pears conditioner (to use as shampoo) after reading from this forum. The thing is, i read from the Alchemy website that thier shampoo is sulphate free. Does this mean its ok to use their shampoo as a CG shampoo? Seeing that its sulphate free?

    Sorry.. still new to all these.
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    If you use a sulfate free shampoo (normally described as low poo) then you are considered to be 'modified CG'. I low poo! :toothy10: I think '2' are allowed to low poo too. Do what works for you and your hair I reckon.

    I alternate between low pooing and co-washing. Is working nicely.
  • ParasiteEveParasiteEve Posts: 8Registered Users
    Ahhh... ok.

    Thank you for that. I'm also looking at MOP products because some of the curl stuff doesn't have cones. :)

    I think i'm more of a 3B. I'm very excited, first time i actually let my hair curly after years of straightening with the GHD!
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    I use MOP curl cream and really like it. I got one of their conditioners but didn't like that as much.
  • ParasiteEveParasiteEve Posts: 8Registered Users
    Can anyone recommend a gel product to hold the curls?

    FeralCurls, how do you like the Matrix Curling gel?
  • mandy8mandy8 Posts: 2Registered Users
    Used my new 'Organic Instict' Conditioner from Priceline. I must say i'm really impressed! Did my 1st real CG wash with it followed by Fructus 24h endurance gel (have not used a gel since high school!) My curls are really defined & no frizz at the moment. I did not do too much scrunching. Not quite sure what to do with the front. Don't quite follow the clipping tecniques in the GC book - one step at a time I guess.
    I'm 35 years old & have been battling my hair for years - feel like I'm starting to turn a corner. I was using S-Factor Serious conditioner for every wash prior to this ($40 a tube mind u) but it's full of silicones as were all the Bed-Head, Tigi leave-in conditioners I was using. I really have wasted a lot of money over the years - talk about marketing B.S!!!
    I have 3a/3b botticelli curls.
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    The Matrix Curling Gel is quite good. I find it to have quite a strong hold, bit hard to totally scrunch out the crunch. I use the fructus 24hr gel but usually over a curl cream.
  • ParasiteEveParasiteEve Posts: 8Registered Users
    Well thanks for the tip on the 24h gel. I love it!! I find that it really prevent any frizz as long as i don't touch my hair when its wet. But I have short hair and am getting really frustrated with my 2nd hair day though. Its frizz galore!

    Also found out that Petra www.petra.com.au carries Jessicurls products if anyone is interested. I emailed them asking when they will be stocking and someone replied back saying that it is already in stock in their stores. They don't have it online but you can call them and make an order & delivery. I'm really interested in getting the RR & CC but am a bit scared as i read it made a lot of ppl's hair dry & stringy due to the Mag sulphate?




  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Posts: 408Registered Users
    Frizzy hair? - then you should try Lube! As in personal lubricant!!!! lol

    Can't help with second day hair as I don't even both trying.

    There is another thread on here about the jessicurl stuff. Mag sulf is only a problem if your hair doesn't like it.
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    ParasiteEve: yeah petra have stocked jessicurl for a few months apparently.. I found it at petra highpoint, in melb. Here's the thread feracurls was talking bout..

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=58071

    I found the products decent, didn't find much if any dryness but I tend to easily overcondition. I got a sample pack so I could have a play. Dissapointed they only stock full size in one scent (island fantasy), I liked the other scent better.
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

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  • ParasiteEveParasiteEve Posts: 8Registered Users
    curlywurlygurly: Thanks for the link. :)

    Did you ended up making an order from curlmart & if you do what did you get? How long did it take to reach here?

    I did a mock order and it will cost about $50 if i were to buy the KCCC, the conditioner and another item. Not sure if it is worth the cost of postage....

    And FeralCurls, yes i read about KY Jelly being similar in Ingd to another item. I can't remember what though. Will do more searching on how to use it.. :)

    I really should concentrate more on having a baby instead of making my hair into nice curls! I have 3 more weeks till i pop!