Question for RCW re: soap free cleanser

violetsviolets Registered Users Posts: 1,689 Curl Neophyte
Enfuselle claims to be soap free. Ever heard of them? They are sold by a multilevel - shaklee.
Never see any detergent free stuff for the face other than Dianne Yvonne.

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    violets wrote: »
    Enfuselle claims to be soap free. Ever heard of them? They are sold by a multilevel - shaklee.
    Never see any detergent free stuff for the face other than Dianne Yvonne.



    No clue. I couldn't find their ingredients listed online. But, I wouldn't touch a Shaklee product if they paid me anyway, no matter what their ingredients are. They are a scummy pyramid-type company.

    It's very difficult finding a detergent-free pH-neutral cleanser. The cosmetics industry doesn't generally make stuff that is good for us, but rather stuff that they think we'll pay money for. DianaYvonne and PSF cleansers are the only ones I recommend.
  • Kurly_NazzyKurly_Nazzy Registered Users Posts: 76
    What about Spectrojel?
    very thick brown 3b/3c curls
    ::::::::........
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    What about Spectrojel?


    Spectrojel is skin friendly...doesn't break down the skin barrier. However, it's only available in Canada, and a lot of people think it leaves a sticky film behind.
  • violetsviolets Registered Users Posts: 1,689 Curl Neophyte
    I found the ingredients:
    http://www.shaklee.net/cassie/product/32502
    click on read the label ( pdf file)
    INGREDIENTS:
    WATER, TRIDECYL STEARATE
    (AND) TRIDECYL TRIMELLITATE
    (AND) DIPENTAERYTHRITYL
    HEXACAPRYLATE/HEXACAPRATE,
    CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE,
    GLYCERYL STEARATE, GLYCERIN,
    CETEARETH-20, ISOCETYL
    STEARATE, SORBITOL,
    TOCOPHERYL ACETATE
    (VITAMIN E), RETINYL PALMITATE
    (VITAMIN A), ASCORBYL PALMITATE
    (SOURCE OF VITAMIN C), VITIS
    VINIFERA (GRAPE) SEED EXTRACT,
    AVENA SATIVA (OAT) KERNEL
    EXTRACT, PANTHENOL
    (PRO-VITAMIN B5), SUPEROXIDE
    DISMUTASE, SORBIC ACID,
    STEARYL ALCOHOL, BENZYL
    ALCOHOL, CETYL ALCOHOL,
    CARBOMER, SODIUM COCO
    PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE
    PHOSPHATE, ACRYLATES/C10-30
    ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER,
    PROPYLPARABEN,
    METHYLPARABEN,
    BUTYLPARABEN, DISODIUM EDTA,
    TRIETHANOLAMINE, FRAGRANCE
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    violets wrote: »
    I found the ingredients:
    http://www.shaklee.net/cassie/product/32502
    click on read the label ( pdf file)
    INGREDIENTS:
    WATER, TRIDECYL STEARATE
    (AND) TRIDECYL TRIMELLITATE
    (AND) DIPENTAERYTHRITYL
    HEXACAPRYLATE/HEXACAPRATE,
    CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE,
    GLYCERYL STEARATE, GLYCERIN,
    CETEARETH-20, ISOCETYL
    STEARATE, SORBITOL,
    TOCOPHERYL ACETATE
    (VITAMIN E), RETINYL PALMITATE
    (VITAMIN A), ASCORBYL PALMITATE
    (SOURCE OF VITAMIN C), VITIS
    VINIFERA (GRAPE) SEED EXTRACT,
    AVENA SATIVA (OAT) KERNEL
    EXTRACT, PANTHENOL
    (PRO-VITAMIN B5), SUPEROXIDE
    DISMUTASE, SORBIC ACID,
    STEARYL ALCOHOL, BENZYL
    ALCOHOL, CETYL ALCOHOL,
    CARBOMER, SODIUM COCO
    PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE
    PHOSPHATE, ACRYLATES/C10-30
    ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER,
    PROPYLPARABEN,
    METHYLPARABEN,
    BUTYLPARABEN, DISODIUM EDTA,

    TRIETHANOLAMINE, FRAGRANCE


    That is a mess of detergents, irritants, and fillers.
  • badgercurlsbadgercurls Registered Users Posts: 3,077
    I've been using California Baby Super Sensitive body wash as a facial cleanser for a few months. I buy it at Whole Foods for about $10 a bottle. I only use a very small amount (dime sized) so it will last a while. I have really sensitive skin and weird allergies to certain botanicals, so I was afraid of trying the DY and PSF cleansers because of certain ingredients. This doesn't irritate my skin and it leaves my skin clean but not feeling stripped.

    I think it's detergent free and skin barrier safe, but I'll post the ingredients to make sure. (RCW, you approved a different California Baby cleanser as skin barrier safe for me a few months ago, so I presumed this one was too, but I'm not 100% certain)

    Ingredients:
    Aloe Vera, Decyl Polyglucose (Extracts of Corn, Coconut & Palm Oil) (100%), Vitamin E, Vegetable Glycerin, Citrus Seed Extract, Very Small Amt. (.15%) Methyl Propylparaben (Of Food Grade)

    Anyway, if it gets the RCW seal of approval, it might be a nice option for those who are wary of buying online or have really sensitive skin like mine.
  • CurlyGina2CurlyGina2 Registered Users Posts: 1,048
    What about Spectrojel?

    I'm buying some Rx drugs from a canadian website and I'm adding this to my cart. The PSF is starting to be very drying = (.
  • ajaneajane Registered Users Posts: 323
    CurlyGina2 wrote: »
    What about Spectrojel?

    I'm buying some Rx drugs from a canadian website and I'm adding this to my cart. The PSF is starting to be very drying = (.

    You might also consider Diana Yvonne's Wheat Germ Cleanser. It has the RCW seal of approval. I have been using it since February and have not really used any moisturizer on my face since. Just jojoba oil or emu oil under my eyes. I used to have an oily t-zone and very dry cheeks prior to the DY WGC. It is supposed to be a little less drying than the PSF.

    I owe RCW my eternal gratitude for my complexion!
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Registered Users Posts: 1,369 Curl Connoisseur
    I've been using the cleansers from Garden of Wisdom quite a while already and I really like them. http://www.gardenofwisdom.shoppingcartsplus.com/cleansers.html
    I was using the PSF and DY wheat germ cleansers and prefer the GoW cleansers over both.

    The castile cleansers have been "RCW approved" http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=39608&highlight=garden+wisdom
    (I had to check :iconbiggrin:)
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • NottyNotty Registered Users Posts: 1,456
    What about Spectrojel?


    Spectrojel is skin friendly...doesn't break down the skin barrier. However, it's only available in Canada, and a lot of people think it leaves a sticky film behind.
    I love Spectrojel and really don't find it leaves any residue behind. I like it because it's non-drying and that's a plus for the over 40's...........yah.........something good sold here than you can't get in the states!! Who'd a thunk:blob7:
    :toothy7:between Botticelli & Corkscrew curly-very thick, coarse hair
    http://public.fotki.com/notty6



    When I get to be 'Queen of the World', I will absolish WIND!!!:queen:
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Registered Users Posts: 17,502 Curl Neophyte
    violets wrote: »
    I found the ingredients:
    http://www.shaklee.net/cassie/product/32502
    click on read the label ( pdf file)
    INGREDIENTS:
    WATER, TRIDECYL STEARATE
    (AND) TRIDECYL TRIMELLITATE
    (AND) DIPENTAERYTHRITYL
    HEXACAPRYLATE/HEXACAPRATE,
    CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDE,
    GLYCERYL STEARATE, GLYCERIN,
    CETEARETH-20, ISOCETYL
    STEARATE, SORBITOL,
    TOCOPHERYL ACETATE
    (VITAMIN E), RETINYL PALMITATE
    (VITAMIN A), ASCORBYL PALMITATE
    (SOURCE OF VITAMIN C), VITIS
    VINIFERA (GRAPE) SEED EXTRACT,
    AVENA SATIVA (OAT) KERNEL
    EXTRACT, PANTHENOL
    (PRO-VITAMIN B5), SUPEROXIDE
    DISMUTASE, SORBIC ACID,
    STEARYL ALCOHOL, BENZYL
    ALCOHOL, CETYL ALCOHOL,
    CARBOMER, SODIUM COCO
    PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE
    PHOSPHATE, ACRYLATES/C10-30
    ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER,
    PROPYLPARABEN,
    METHYLPARABEN,
    BUTYLPARABEN, DISODIUM EDTA,
    TRIETHANOLAMINE, FRAGRANCE


    That is a mess of detergents, irritants, and fillers.

    How do you know what's what? That list looks crazier than when I first started here and had to learn to read hair product labels.
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • ajaneajane Registered Users Posts: 323
    helloitsio wrote: »
    I've been using the cleansers from Garden of Wisdom quite a while already and I really like them. http://www.gardenofwisdom.shoppingcartsplus.com/cleansers.html
    I was using the PSF and DY wheat germ cleansers and prefer the GoW cleansers over both.

    The castile cleansers have been "RCW approved" http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=39608&highlight=garden+wisdom
    (I had to check :iconbiggrin:)

    SO, DETAILS! How is your skin with this brand? Is there a results post I missed? I would love something a little cheaper than DY, but I am so happy with the DY! But I might be willing to try something else....maybe.
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Registered Users Posts: 1,369 Curl Connoisseur
    ajane wrote: »
    helloitsio wrote: »
    I've been using the cleansers from Garden of Wisdom quite a while already and I really like them. http://www.gardenofwisdom.shoppingcartsplus.com/cleansers.html
    I was using the PSF and DY wheat germ cleansers and prefer the GoW cleansers over both.

    The castile cleansers have been "RCW approved" http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=39608&highlight=garden+wisdom
    (I had to check :iconbiggrin:)

    SO, DETAILS! How is your skin with this brand? Is there a results post I missed? I would love something a little cheaper than DY, but I am so happy with the DY! But I might be willing to try something else....maybe.

    I don't mean to guano the thread or sound like I'm on GoW's payroll but I love love LOVE my Garden of Wisdom products! The things Markey concocts is amazing! With her castile cleaners, I feel that they remove my mmu really well, make my skin feel soft, and help regulate oil production. The PSF was alright but didn't seem to cleanse my skin very well; I noticed that I had more clogged pores when I used this cleanser. It's been a while since I've used the DY wheat germ (I still have a new bottle under my sink!) since I started off on that, moved on to PSF, and then discovered GoW. I'm sure it must have been ok considering I stuck with the harsh soap-free routine, but I'm almost hesitant to go back because I love my GoW so much!

    I have tried/have samples of almost every cleanser Markey's produced. My faves are the castile cleansers, skin friendly cleanser, and Jen's green tea/shea cleanser. I still have yet to try my samples of the oat, milk, and honey cleanser, rose clay cleanser, and tea tree cleanser. The only medicore cleansers I've tried are the majik azulene (couldn't really see a difference in my skin) and the fruity exfo (my skin had a bad reaction with it in conjunction with bp).

    I also use her conditioning oils (I've probably got about 15 of them!), hyaluronic acids, fruit hydrating mists, hydrosols, creams, exfoliators, antioxidants, you name it.

    I'm sure I've blown over $400+ on her products but I feel it's worth every single penny. I could not rave about her line more. Sometimes the shipping can get backed up but the customer service is ALWAYS great. Plus, when Markey makes something new, she includes a sample du jour for her customers to try out. If there's positive feedback, she'll make it a regular item.

    Also, everyone over at the GoW forum is really helpful and will help you determine what items/routine is good to start out with. If you're on a budget or have skin sensitivities, Markey and/or the other mods can point you in the right direction to maximize your results or minimize the potential for a reaction.

    What I also like is that they don't push their products onto you; there is a recipes section on the home page and a formulators message board in the forum to help with duplicating products from more expensive lines. A big winner in the recipes section is Jen's homemade vinegar toner. I've been using it for the past month or so and it's been working really well...plus it's so cheap!

    Whew. Ok. That's enough of a GoW love spiel for now. :iconbiggrin:
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • Curly Girl FlaCurly Girl Fla Registered Users Posts: 1,834 Curl Connoisseur
    helloitsio, thanks for all the GoW wisdom :laughing7: ...the ready-made products look really nice, and I like to hear when items work so well and service is fantastic... It's nice of your impressive gel collection to share some space with what seems to be an equally impressive GoW collection :tongue5:. I think you're my new hero!
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Registered Users Posts: 1,369 Curl Connoisseur
    helloitsio, thanks for all the GoW wisdom :laughing7: ...the ready-made products look really nice, and I like to hear when items work so well and service is fantastic... It's nice of your impressive gel collection to share some space with what seems to be an equally impressive GoW collection :tongue5:. I think you're my new hero!

    LOL! Yes, I'm an equal opportunity junkie.:toothy7:
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/

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