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Curl Keeper versus KY

MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
Is it really worth shelling out the extra $$$ for the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink]?

Has anyone used both that would care to weigh in?
CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    MimsTX wrote: »
    It would be my pleasure being the CK fan that I am! I did try both and honestly the amt that I need (4-6 puddles) would make it more expensive to use KY! But they are pretty similar I think trying KY as a "preview" to know if CK would work for your hair is as good as a sample of the real thing!!
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    How long is your hair, Del? I've been using about 3 puddles of KY, but it's possible I need to use more...

    Someone just mentioned in another thread that the CK is what kept her curls 'perky' throughout the day (mine keep wilting as I hit the afternoon). Didn't know if the difference between KY and CK was the culprit, or if I just wasn't using enough... or if it just doesn't work for me :(

    I'm hoping it's one of the first two :)
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    MimsTX wrote: »
    How long is your hair, Del? I've been using about 3 puddles of KY, but it's possible I need to use more...

    Someone just mentioned in another thread that the CK is what kept her curls 'perky' throughout the day (mine keep wilting as I hit the afternoon). Didn't know if the difference between KY and CK was the culprit, or if I just wasn't using enough... or if it just doesn't work for me :(

    I'm hoping it's one of the first two :)
    my hair is Long I think you could say the longest part in the back hits the bottom of my bra strap? You can look at my fotki to get a better idea if that helps? I tried just CK and it wasn't enough hold so I need a strong hold gel on top of it or I don't get the results that I want. I tried Recoil and that worked pretty good too but for CK seems to jive better with Gel not Cream. Maybe in the Winter I'll need Recoil, don't know it makes my head itch after the 2nd day so I'm hoping to ditch it! My perk comes from the CK/Gel combo.
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    yeah, there's no way in heck my hair could go with just CK/KY...

    I have some recoil on the way so maybe that'll help my issues. What kind of gel have you been using??
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    MimsTX wrote: »
    yeah, there's no way in heck my hair could go with just CK/KY...

    I have some recoil on the way so maybe that'll help my issues. What kind of gel have you been using??
    Biosilk RH Gel it is the best gel I've ever used. It is crunchy so you'll have to scrunch it out and it's very concentrated I use about 2dime sizes all over and on non-wash days I've been using a pea size mixed on my palm with a little home made lavender water to freshen it up, it works great and holds all day.
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    that was next on my list of things to try. Thanks!!
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    what is KY?
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlywurlygurly%2F" class="Popup
    pw:aussie

    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    lol, KY as in the personal lube...
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    MimsTX wrote: »
    lol, KY as in the personal lube...

    You enjoyed that didn't you? *giggle*
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    lol, I have to admit... I get a kick out of shocking people with that :P

    Actually, I was at Target with my younger sister on Sunday and convinced her to try going CG. She picked up a bottle of the KY and I got this strange, unconfortable look on my face. All "ok, but just... don't let dad see it..."

    :/

    That's the last thing I need is having to explain THAT!
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    MimsTX wrote: »
    lol, I have to admit... I get a kick out of shocking people with that :P

    Actually, I was at Target with my younger sister on Sunday and convinced her to try going CG. She picked up a bottle of the KY and I got this strange, unconfortable look on my face. All "ok, but just... don't let dad see it..."

    :/

    That's the last thing I need is having to explain THAT!


    ROFLOL :laughing7:
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    She is, at least, 20 years old and living in an apartment at her college so odds are he won't find out, but still. Yeesh.
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    "No, *REALLY* dad it's for my hair!!!"
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    oy. And then the inevitable..


    "WHERE did you get it?!"

    "... Well, Meg said it would work..."

    -_-

    She'd so do it to me too. The brat. lol
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    haha strange..I wasn't sure it was the KY personal lube or I'd missed some abbreviation (being new it's not hard getting lost in the lingo!)

    what I'd like to know is how the hell someone found that KY worked for curls??
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlywurlygurly%2F" class="Popup
    pw:aussie

    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    haha strange..I wasn't sure it was the KY personal lube or I'd missed some abbreviation (being new it's not hard getting lost in the lingo!)

    what I'd like to know is how the hell someone found that KY worked for curls??


    ROFL!!!!

    I've often wondered the same thing but I figure someone had some for *other* purposes and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink] at the same time. They somehow (;)) found out they felt the same and decided to look at ingredients. I can't imagine any other scenario.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    yeeeeah, that's the million dollar question lol

    I like to imagine some curly grabbed the wrong bottle out of the 200 million jamming her bathroom counters and voila.

    but, odds are, someone with an anal streak was comparing the ingredient lists to everything in her house and realized they were similar, chemically. :P
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    lol, the possibilities are endless!(and somewhat amusing) but I guess all in all its helpful?

    I'm contemplating trying this, I'm an aussie so most products mentioned on here I can't get my hands on without paying an arm and a leg for them. But I can get my hands on KY. I'm gathering to use the traditional KY jelly not some fancy pants one? (lol)
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlywurlygurly%2F" class="Popup
    pw:aussie

    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    lol, yes, just the plain ole KY. Some people have used the warming kind and some have used the jelly instead of the liquid as well.. they all probably work about the same, but i go with what's cheap :P
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    cheap is good :D thanks for your help
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlywurlygurly%2F" class="Popup
    pw:aussie

    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    quick questions...

    what exactly should this do for me?
    how do i know if my hair likes it?
    and how many times should i try it till i give in?

    I'm currently trying it for the second time, think i used too little last time. But it seemed to make my hair funny feeling, not sticky or hard but weird.. so weird i had to wash it out haha.

    thanks
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlywurlygurly%2F" class="Popup
    pw:aussie

    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • medusahairmedusahair Posts: 3,515Registered Users
    I use mine on pretty wet dripping hair and it gives me soft curls that shine and stay in place without frizz. Now I don't have a super frizz problem but it's hot and humid here still and I get a halo of frizz without this stuff.

    CK used to give me harder curls. I like them both but KY can be found local and cheap woohoo
    2c/3a?
    Low porosity, medium texture.
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    If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
  • LovetoKnitLovetoKnit Posts: 17Registered Users
    How do the ingredients in the two products compare? I want to try LOOB, but I am alittle nervous about trying it in my hair. My teenage girls think I am crazy!!

    New to CG! Two days.
    CG since 10-03-08:thumbup:
    Cowash: Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave-In: TJ Nourish
    Styling: Biolage Gelee
    Lo-poo: ? still sneaking into the reg poo
    Wanting to try: KCCC, ACV rinse, JRR
    Don't Like: AVG, LA Looks Gel, Burt's Bees Shine
  • RedCurlsGirlRedCurlsGirl Posts: 31Registered Users
    You might want to read my post I just made where I compared using these products.
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?p=742324#post742324
    If you purchase the WalMart brand of KY (Equate) it's cheap, plus I don't have to pay for shipping (I may raise some eyebrows if I decide to stock up). The KY really makes my hair slip and I think does a great job with the frizz. When KY was first mentioned I thought, WHAT? Now, I just keep it hidden in my bathroom cupboard careful to never leave it out on the counter :colors:
    3b? curls. Curly Girl since 10/05.

    Love "abba Pure Moisture Conditioner" (feels so good on the scalp, super moisturizing...I believe it really aids in growing hair long)

    Newbie here 8/08 and still trying to figure out all the abbreviations but love what you all have to share.
  • Curlylocks1Curlylocks1 Posts: 37Registered Users
    It looks to me like using the KY isn't any cheaper than the CK, unless I'm looking at the wrong thing. I just checked drugstore.com to dabble on prices and it looked like 2.5 oz was $7.50ish. That looks like double the price of CK?
    Began CG June 2008:
    Experimenting with:
    • Devacare Low Poo (every 10 days)
    • Biotera Moisturizing Conditioner
    • Kiehls Leave In
    • CK
    • Biotera Gel
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Once you add shipping, i think they're about the same. I seem to use slightly less CK than KY though, so that might make a bit of a difference as well. But, then again, you don't have to wait for the mail with KY... lol, all depends on where your priorities are.

    And Love2Knit: LOOB and CK/KY are not the same thing lol. I know the names can be confusing. LOOB is L'oreal out of bed, a creme 'texturizer' that you can find at most drug/grocery stores.
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • TaraVictoriaTaraVictoria Posts: 374Registered Users
    so a few drops of this stuff - either one - isn't enough? I keep trying it but I don't think I use enough, according to what I see here... how much of the KY do you normally use?
    and ps - thanks for this thread! very helpful!!!! :)
    Tara - have a curly day!!!

    LA Looks Curl Gel, Sauve Naturals conditioners Waterlily, CK, Deva Archangel , LOOB (has its days)...
    Deva One - LOVE it!!!!!!!

    Botticelli's Flax Seed Hair Gel (a DIY!!!) THANKS Botticelli!!!!!!
    Curl Junkie Coffee Coco Creme (LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!)
    Shea Moisture Smoothie - GREAT stuff!

    :angel5::angel5:
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  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    oooooh, no. a couple of drops, I wouldn't even notice it was in there.

    With the KY, in the summer humidity, I was using about 4-6 puddles worth (cupped palm-sized). With CK (which I think is a bit stronger) i only had to use about 3-4 Now I'm down to about 2-3, because the humidity's slightly less.
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • TaraVictoriaTaraVictoria Posts: 374Registered Users
    ah ha!!! thank you!!! I will go and overdose tonite!!!! :)
    thanks again!
    Tara - have a curly day!!!

    LA Looks Curl Gel, Sauve Naturals conditioners Waterlily, CK, Deva Archangel , LOOB (has its days)...
    Deva One - LOVE it!!!!!!!

    Botticelli's Flax Seed Hair Gel (a DIY!!!) THANKS Botticelli!!!!!!
    Curl Junkie Coffee Coco Creme (LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!)
    Shea Moisture Smoothie - GREAT stuff!

    :angel5::angel5:
    for the love of the lens...

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  • TaraVictoriaTaraVictoria Posts: 374Registered Users
    WOWWWWWWW!!! thanks girls!!! this was great - I overdosed on the KY (I was using just a few drops ) - so I went to "puddles" - and I may have used too much, but my hair is SO soft and shiny! now I GET it!!! WOWOWO! however, I was really impressed this morning, then, through the day, it's been getting a little frizzy (nothing like before!) but just wondering if that's because there was too much? I used the LA Gel too - luv that stuff! should I use less or more gel if I'm using the KY??? just wondering...
    thanks again - this is amazing!
    Tara - have a curly day!!!

    LA Looks Curl Gel, Sauve Naturals conditioners Waterlily, CK, Deva Archangel , LOOB (has its days)...
    Deva One - LOVE it!!!!!!!

    Botticelli's Flax Seed Hair Gel (a DIY!!!) THANKS Botticelli!!!!!!
    Curl Junkie Coffee Coco Creme (LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!)
    Shea Moisture Smoothie - GREAT stuff!

    :angel5::angel5:
    for the love of the lens...

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fanimafoto.smugmug.com%2F" class="Popup

    www.animafoto.wordpress.com
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