2Cs - wavy or curly

FeralcurlsFeralcurls Registered Users Posts: 408
So other 2Cs that have a combo of wave and curl what are you aiming for? wavy or curly hair? I really want tidy, neat hair and I think it is the combo that makes it look messy.
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  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Registered Users Posts: 4,812
    Do you comb your hair when it's wet? I find when I do it's much more organized than when I don't comb it.
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  • lapushkalapushka Registered Users Posts: 601
    It's typical, though, isn't it for 2c's to have (some) spirals. That's what Fia's Typing System says, right?
  • rudeechickrudeechick Registered Users Posts: 6,726
    How my hair curls depends on the weather, products etc. I just let it do its thing.
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  • confusedmaidenconfusedmaiden Registered Users Posts: 59
    I also want tidy hair and the odd thing is that if I don't comb it it looks completely ungroomed. The frizz right on top of the canopy and on the sides sticks out while the rest either hangs flat or waves and curls. And it's not cute like CG's Accept Your Frizz philosophy, it looks extremely unkempt and messy. The front and sides are curly while the back is wavy and the underside is almost straight (or at least 2a) and I wish my hair would decide which one it wants to be! For a long time I had the kind of hair that would look ungroomed an hour after I had brushed it. Now with the new routine its sitting down better but I still have to fuss with it various times throughout the day. I roll the dice with my hair. It doesn't usually look the same from one day to the next, especially if I don't comb it.

    I would love to have some of the glossy curls that the 3s and 4s have or some of the more uniform waves the other 2s have but sadly my hair doesn't seem to work that way.
    My Fotki Page
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    2a/2b/2c i & ii. Very frizz prone in front, sides and canopy. Some spiral curls in front on good days. Mixed fine and medium thickness.
  • KitaraKitara Registered Users Posts: 1,224
    I don't really think I'm "aiming" for one or the other. What I'm aiming for is less frizz. I have found products that make me as frizz free as possible, but never actually free of frizz.

    My hair is in no way uniform either, but I don't try to make it that way because then it just ends up looking stupid because I've tried too hard. It's a mess, but so am I so I guess it goes with me. :)
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Registered Users Posts: 4,049
    Kitara wrote: »
    I don't really think I'm "aiming" for one or the other. What I'm aiming for is less frizz. I have found products that make me as frizz free as possible, but never actually free of frizz.

    My hair is in no way uniform either, but I don't try to make it that way because then it just ends up looking stupid because I've tried too hard. It's a mess, but so am I so I guess it goes with me. :)

    ITA (Not the part about you or your hair being a mess. :P)

    Frizz free is my ultimate goal and believe it or not, I'm most frizz free on day 3 or 4. Think it's because my natural oils keep it down or something.
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  • gymnast0060gymnast0060 Registered Users Posts: 40
    I also want tidy hair and the odd thing is that if I don't comb it it looks completely ungroomed. The frizz right on top of the canopy and on the sides sticks out while the rest either hangs flat or waves and curls. And it's not cute like CG's Accept Your Frizz philosophy, it looks extremely unkempt and messy. The front and sides are curly while the back is wavy and the underside is almost straight (or at least 2a) and I wish my hair would decide which one it wants to be! For a long time I had the kind of hair that would look ungroomed an hour after I had brushed it. Now with the new routine its sitting down better but I still have to fuss with it various times throughout the day. I roll the dice with my hair. It doesn't usually look the same from one day to the next, especially if I don't comb it.

    I would love to have some of the glossy curls that the 3s and 4s have or some of the more uniform waves the other 2s have but sadly my hair doesn't seem to work that way.

    maybe if you only comb your hair out when its really wet, u might get less frizz and more curl. plus, have you tried plopping? it might help regain some curl. good luck
    -belly-button length 2b/2c hair
    -waves and a few loose ringlets
    -medium thickness
  • confusedmaidenconfusedmaiden Registered Users Posts: 59
    I also want tidy hair and the odd thing is that if I don't comb it it looks completely ungroomed. The frizz right on top of the canopy and on the sides sticks out while the rest either hangs flat or waves and curls. And it's not cute like CG's Accept Your Frizz philosophy, it looks extremely unkempt and messy. The front and sides are curly while the back is wavy and the underside is almost straight (or at least 2a) and I wish my hair would decide which one it wants to be! For a long time I had the kind of hair that would look ungroomed an hour after I had brushed it. Now with the new routine its sitting down better but I still have to fuss with it various times throughout the day. I roll the dice with my hair. It doesn't usually look the same from one day to the next, especially if I don't comb it.

    I would love to have some of the glossy curls that the 3s and 4s have or some of the more uniform waves the other 2s have but sadly my hair doesn't seem to work that way.

    maybe if you only comb your hair out when its really wet, u might get less frizz and more curl. plus, have you tried plopping? it might help regain some curl. good luck

    I tried it today - am not touching my hair even though it's almost dry now. The temptation is almost too much to bear, but hopefully my hair will reward me.
    My Fotki Page
    pw: lemonade

    2a/2b/2c i & ii. Very frizz prone in front, sides and canopy. Some spiral curls in front on good days. Mixed fine and medium thickness.
  • ajaneajane Registered Users Posts: 323
    Whatsercurl or any other wavy, how do you make it 3-4 days without washing? My scalp gets a little stinky by day three. And my hair looks terrible and i have to clip it up or put in a pony tail.

    Do you use gel or mousse? I have read mousse is better for wavies. I have not used mousse since before becoming CG.
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Registered Users Posts: 4,049
    ajane wrote: »
    Whatsercurl or any other wavy, how do you make it 3-4 days without washing? My scalp gets a little stinky by day three. And my hair looks terrible and i have to clip it up or put in a pony tail.

    Do you use gel or mousse? I have read mousse is better for wavies. I have not used mousse since before becoming CG.

    I had the problem of oily/stinky scalp when I used to shampoo my hair. Over the past year of CG, I've had less and less oil and no smell. Least no one has complained to me. I think as your scalp becomes less dependent on sulfates it stops secreting as much oil. Not sure on the scientifc reasons for it. Just as an FYI - my mom goes 10-14 days without doing anything to her. She's a straightie, uses no products, flatness and frizz aren't an issue. I don't think I could ever go that long because I use product the first day and sometimes on day 2.

    My hair used to look awful 2nd day also. The combination of the right products for me, the Hot Sock diffuser and pineappling are what have enabled me to have consistently good hair even when not re-wetting for days. I'm thinking the length of my hair might have something to do with it too.

    I've tried a few mousse's (? is that plural) but prefer gel. Mousse doesn't seem to have enough hold for me.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    http://public.fotki.com/whatsercurl/

    PW: wavycurly

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  • eweniqueewenique Registered Users Posts: 1,502 Curl Neophyte
    Since 2cs seem to be somewhere between just wavy and really curly, I think that our hair is more unpredictable. Some days mine will be curlier, other days more wavy. Frizz should decrease as hair becomes healthier and/or with using the right products.
    2C wavy with some spirals. CG since April 07. Medium texture and porosity.
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  • confusedmaidenconfusedmaiden Registered Users Posts: 59
    What is pinappleing?
    My Fotki Page
    pw: lemonade

    2a/2b/2c i & ii. Very frizz prone in front, sides and canopy. Some spiral curls in front on good days. Mixed fine and medium thickness.
  • KitaraKitara Registered Users Posts: 1,224
    putting your hair up loosly on top of your head. Like flip it over, put in a scrunchy on top and viola. Pineapple.
  • Curls=BeautyCurls=Beauty Registered Users Posts: 1,781
    I have 2c hair and a few 3a curls but not many. I think that before when I didn't use a comb on my hair it looked messy, and sometimes now it does if I don't do it just right. And some days its curlier.
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  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Registered Users Posts: 2,017 Curl Neophyte
    I am also (I think) a long-suffering 2C. I hear you about the inconsistency frustration! I go for curly, most of the time, because I love curls and I just don't really know how to style waves.

    But on the days it doesn't want to curl, this winds up looking kind of stupid. (Picture hair with stringy, producty pieces in it). In the past, what I would do about this was to rake my fingers through it in disgust, then rub conditioner through it (or hand lotion, or whatever I could get my hands on -- yes, I know this is bad!) This generally allowed me to be more or less wavy for the rest of the day.

    But now I'm trying to learn from this website, and I like what these other folks are saying about working with what the hair wants to do from the start. Lately I've been finding that, if I rinse my hair upside-down in the shower, then don't comb it, but just shake it out a (lightly squeezing out extra water with a towel), then wait 5 minutes, I can kind of "see" what shape it's going to take. Then I try to go from there -- gel and scrunching if I want to curl, leave-in conditioner finger-combed through if I want waves.

    But I'm new to all of this, and just switched away from sulfates and silicones, so who knows what tomorrow will bring?

    Hope that helps!

    Wurly and proud!
    Modified CG since 2008.
  • LoloDSMLoloDSM Registered Users Posts: 3,778 Curl Neophyte
    I would love it if my hair would be more curly, but I'm happy if it isn't frizzy and looks somewhat uniform. I'm trying to accept it the way it is and let it do its own thing. Sometimes it's wavy and sometimes it's curly.

    My hair has a tendency to be messy, so I cut it to chin-length (pics in my Fotki). I work in a professional field and my shoulder-length hair just looked untidy.
    Loose botticelli curls and waves
    No silicones/no sulfates since March 2008
  • TillyMunchyWavesTillyMunchyWaves Registered Users Posts: 671
    I have 2C, it's only loosely wavey in the front, tighter wave in the back, and almost pin straight on the underside. Mostly, I just do my routine and hope for the best--I will never have spiral curls, and ultimately I like the waves. I hate it when it gets frizzy, of which I have a great tendency, and after 2-3 days of no washing or cowashing, all the waves fall out and my hair is kind of straight looking, but mostly frizzes out and looks even bigger/bushier, and gets in my way more. It stays straight if I brush it, put serum on it, and don't move, ever ha ha. At that point I just braid it neatly (which I do 90% of the time because I always wear my hair tied back at work. So in the end I guess I go for waves without the frizz.
    Wavy, curly on the ends, 2C.
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  • ajaneajane Registered Users Posts: 323
    Try an apple cider rinse to combat the frizzies. I do one once a week. I use one of those condiment bottles I bought at Walmart, add about 2tbsp vinegar and fill the rest of the bottle with warm water. Squeeze all over your head and let it sit for a couple of minute, rinse out and apply conditioner. It works on my frizzies for almost the whole week.

    wavycurl40+: my hair does that producty thing too and the curls all fall out. Some thread I read earlier this week suggested not using product at all. I am trying to find that thread so I can try it out this weekend. I even broke down and went to get the Aubrey's Honeysuckle Rose conditioner.
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Registered Users Posts: 408
    Just saw Meg Ryan's hair in her new film and I want that!!! :toothy7:

    So I need to try and drop the spirals into waves!
  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Registered Users Posts: 2,017 Curl Neophyte
    Ajane: Thanks for the tip!

    Lolo: LOVE the chin-length look on you. I'm jealous -- I can only go just above the shoulders, but I'd love that length.

    Feralcurls: I was interested in what you said about "dropping the spirals for waves." Does anybody know how to do that? I'd love to have another option for the days when my spirals aren't taking off. (I always have a mix of spirals and waves, anyway!)

    Wurly and proud!
    Modified CG since 2008.
  • sharie43sharie43 Registered Users Posts: 77
    Hi everyone, I hear apple cider rinse mentioned alot is it safe for colour treated hair?
  • LoloDSMLoloDSM Registered Users Posts: 3,778 Curl Neophyte
    sharie43 wrote: »
    Hi everyone, I hear apple cider rinse mentioned alot is it safe for colour treated hair?

    Yes. It makes my hair shinier.
    Loose botticelli curls and waves
    No silicones/no sulfates since March 2008
  • sharie43sharie43 Registered Users Posts: 77
    Thanks! I now know it is safe to try!
  • curlybikergirlcurlybikergirl Registered Users Posts: 18
    Feralcurls wrote: »
    Just saw Meg Ryan's hair in her new film and I want that!!! :toothy7:

    So I need to try and drop the spirals into waves!

    I've got the waves, but now I'm madly in love with the Meg Ryan version of waves! I googled pics, and if you mean those perfect waves from The Woman, I'm with you! Not that I have any idea how to make my hair do that! LOL! It's stubborn, my hair, and usually only does what IT wants to do! :wink:
    curlybikergirl
    Fia: 2c with some 3a around my face currently using: CV shampoo bars 3X/week, no conditioner, Dove Curl&Sculpt Mousse, Aussie Catch the Wave mousse/leave-in, Suave Anti-frizz cream, Dove flexible hold hairspray after scrunching. Air dry for looser waves, diffuse for more curl/tighter waves. :happy11:
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Registered Users Posts: 408
    Yes those waves! lol. Have no idea either how to do it. It looks like it is all one length though and I have layers, so I guess I need to grow those out.

    I'm wondering if she used rollers or something though. Her hair is usually more on the messy side when it is curly.
  • curlybikergirlcurlybikergirl Registered Users Posts: 18
    Feralcurls wrote: »
    Yes those waves! lol. Have no idea either how to do it. It looks like it is all one length though and I have layers, so I guess I need to grow those out.

    I'm wondering if she used rollers or something though. Her hair is usually more on the messy side when it is curly.

    I wondered that myself--none of the other pictures I found of her looked even close to those waves, so I'm guessing the look isn't exactly "natural" LOL! Mine's all one length, but not that long (growing it "experimentaly" tho--I miss it long, but I don't know if the wave will hold up to longer, so I'll stop when it falls apart) and certainly not that perfect! :compress:
    curlybikergirl
    Fia: 2c with some 3a around my face currently using: CV shampoo bars 3X/week, no conditioner, Dove Curl&Sculpt Mousse, Aussie Catch the Wave mousse/leave-in, Suave Anti-frizz cream, Dove flexible hold hairspray after scrunching. Air dry for looser waves, diffuse for more curl/tighter waves. :happy11:
  • HeatherDawnHeatherDawn Registered Users Posts: 300
    I don't get to pick. LOL! Having waves vs. curls is really a matter of weather, product and whether my hair likes me or not. There are days where is will go flat and refuse to play with me - well, except for that spot on the back of my head that will wave up even if I am trying to be a straity. :wink:
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    2C/3A
  • FeralcurlsFeralcurls Registered Users Posts: 408
    Well I finger combed it quite hard this morning and put no curl cream or gel in it, just an oil and I have more waves than spirals. And it is inches longer, lol.

    Still looks messy though! I am really rapt with how it feels though after a couple of weeks on CG and it isn't too frizzy. I just look like I have just got out of bed, lol!!
  • ajaneajane Registered Users Posts: 323
    Addendum to the ACV rinse: I live in the north where it hardly ever rains in the summer and we rarely have humidity. I did a rinse on Saturday, but for the last two days I have been watching my hair grow and frizz because it is humid, overcast, and trying to rain a little. Even the weatherman on the news tonight made a comment about women's frizzy hair! So, maybe the ACV is not so successful with taming frizzies for several days for those who live in a more humid climate! Or maybe my experiment with not using gel was not timed so well! :wink:
  • PrettyPorcupinePrettyPorcupine Registered Users Posts: 258
    I want my hair to look neat and it never does, when I wear it "natural." All this time I thought of myself as a Type 3 curly because it's so coarse and thick, but in reality it's 2C-- plus a month or so ago, I did a mild relaxer which made it less frizzy and more loose. So I have to go back and start from scratch to find a new routine! It's really frustrating!

    I am at an utter loss. I am mostly 'poo-free but I do like my 'cones.
    Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair :evil: but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

    Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.

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