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Suggestions?

MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
I have 2c hair that seems to want to spiral in some places, but very very loosely. I'm very blonde, on the dry side. My hair is fine but thick. It lays very flat at the crown, the top 2-4 inches of hair, which I'm fine with. For ages now I've been using John Frieda Sheer Blonde shampoos and conditioners. They've done well by me, and while the shampoo has a sulfate, neither have any 'cones and since I started using them about 1.5 years ago I've noticed an improvement in the level of cooperation I get from my hair, so I'm not looking to ditch them, necessarily, anytime soon.

I tried plopping for the first time this morning, and I think that's going to show real promise. What I'd like to achieve is more definition, a little bit of frizz control (I only have a slight frizz problem, most days I don't notice it), a kick of shine and maybe some moisture. I'm thinking a light cream leave in with a bit of hold is probably the next logical step for me. I'm deathly frightened of gel because I associate it with the horrible "wet look" people went after in high school (gah, 1998 was a baaaad year for curly girls!!).

Any suggestions on a leave in, preferably a light hold cream based product, that I can apply to wet hair before plopping? Also if it could be fairly inexpensive (under $15 would be good, under $10 would be awesome) and available at Ulta would be fantabulous.

(I know, I'm asking for the world here, but if someone can suggest something halfway there I'd be grateful!)
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.

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  • HeatherDawnHeatherDawn Posts: 300Registered Users
    I actually suggest... gel! LOL! I used to have a problem with the "wet" look and my spirals getting crunchy, but if you put it on while you hair is wet (I keep my gel IN the shower and apply it just before I hop out) it will distribute it more evenly and most of the time I don't even need to scrunch, which cuts down on the frizzies as well. How was that for a run on sentence?

    This is my hair with gel last week. I had flipped my hair after it was completely dry and separated the curl some.

    6-20-08.jpg

    Oh, yeah, I use Aussie which is cheap and everywhere. I also use Jojaba oil as a leave in when it starts feeling dry.
    HeatherDawn
    2C/3A
  • annielutzannielutz Posts: 209Registered Users
    Heather, your hair is gorgeous. I'm having hair envy right now!

    Annie
    Modified-CG, 2c, slightly protein-sensitive, color-treated
    :sunny:
    LA County, SoCal - Cool and some humidity FINALLY
    Liking: Suave co-washes, LVPHG, homemade curl cream and DT
    Loving: KCKT/KCCC/HESMU, Biolage, K-Pak reconstructor, SheaM
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    I actually suggest... gel! LOL! I used to have a problem with the "wet" look and my spirals getting crunchy, but if you put it on while you hair is wet (I keep my gel IN the shower and apply it just before I hop out) it will distribute it more evenly and most of the time I don't even need to scrunch, which cuts down on the frizzies as well. How was that for a run on sentence?

    That was a BEAUTIFUL run on sentence!! LOL

    Gel, huh? I'm so so hesitant, but since I think I probably have some gel in my house somewhere and it won't actually cost me anything to try it, I'll try it. I don't really want to have to do anything to it after it dries (I always come to work with damp hair, so the fact that I won't blow dry is no big, but having to do something to it after I get to work is a no go for me.), but if gel can leave me with a natural, non-wet look, then I'll give it a shot. But I'm holding you personally accountable if I look like a transplant from 1997!!
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • eche428eche428 Posts: 2,782Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You might just have to "scrunch the crunch" after it's dry but that's not a big deal. Just scrunch like you do in the shower either upside down or right side up. Should just take a few scrunches and probably no one will see you do it.
    < member since 2006 (no idea where 1969 came from :toothy10:).

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  • LoloDSMLoloDSM Posts: 3,778Registered Users
    I second the gel suggeston. Just remember, no touching until it's dry!
    Loose botticelli curls and waves
    No silicones/no sulfates since March 2008
  • HeatherDawnHeatherDawn Posts: 300Registered Users
    annielutz wrote: »
    Heather, your hair is gorgeous. I'm having hair envy right now!

    Aw thanks! You are so sweet! :oops:
    HeatherDawn
    2C/3A
  • HeatherDawnHeatherDawn Posts: 300Registered Users
    I actually suggest... gel! LOL! I used to have a problem with the "wet" look and my spirals getting crunchy, but if you put it on while you hair is wet (I keep my gel IN the shower and apply it just before I hop out) it will distribute it more evenly and most of the time I don't even need to scrunch, which cuts down on the frizzies as well. How was that for a run on sentence?

    That was a BEAUTIFUL run on sentence!! LOL

    Gel, huh? I'm so so hesitant, but since I think I probably have some gel in my house somewhere and it won't actually cost me anything to try it, I'll try it. I don't really want to have to do anything to it after it dries (I always come to work with damp hair, so the fact that I won't blow dry is no big, but having to do something to it after I get to work is a no go for me.), but if gel can leave me with a natural, non-wet look, then I'll give it a shot. But I'm holding you personally accountable if I look like a transplant from 1997!!

    LOL! Ok, I'll be responsible. :wink: If you think your hair looks too stuck together, just flip your head over and shake it out a bit. 2 second fix!
    HeatherDawn
    2C/3A
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    LOL! Ok, I'll be responsible. :wink: If you think your hair looks too stuck together, just flip your head over and shake it out a bit. 2 second fix!

    Well, it's time for your flogging. I'm getting a LITTLE more definition, but man alive do I have frizz. I put some anti frizz stuff (snort) on the ends and then raked gel all the way through. Plopped with a tshirt for 15 minutes. Frizzy frizz frizz frizz.

    I was feeling too piecey/crunchy this morning, but that went away with some scrunching (which I managed to do at my desk at work without being caught... I work with a bunch of mechanics, I try to resist being the ubergirl, y'know?).

    I'm going to try again... I always always always shower in the morning, but I'm going to shower tonight to shave and self tan, so perhaps I'll give all-night plopping a shot with something in my hair... maybe a bit of pomade? Or just the antifrizz stuff? I"ll work it out.

    Also, as a side note, I convinced my husband that he should try to take better care of his hair. He's got gorgeous copper red hair that he's growing out... think Beatles circa 1966... but it's dry and really frizzy. Kinda poofy. He'll let me put product in it if I catch him before he leaves the house, but he won't do it on his own. I asked him if I put something in the shower for him to use, would he use it? He sorta half agreed, partially offended that I told him his hair was frizzy, LOL. He'll get over it. I'd love to see what it looked like really healthy and this length, I think it'd be great. I hope when/if we have kids they get his hair!!!
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • a.l.i.c.e.a.l.i.c.e. Posts: 673Registered Users
    Some people just can't use gels. I can only use aloe vera gel, which isn't really a gel since it has no hold ingredients. I think you would like curl creme results better (maybe Biotera, Boots, or Mop-C, I have tried all three with decent results). I do put aloe gel over curl creme, which gives me less frizz, but the creme alone helped alot. Also, if you were dry, I would try a DT. Here's what I do for a DT: Mix some olive oil and honey with conditioner, slather it on and sit in the sun for 30 min-an hour.
    botticelli-ish bob.

    Current Routine:
    -Suave Aloe & Waterlily cowash/leave-in
    -Giovanni Direct Leave-In
    -FOTE aloe vera gel
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    I was going to suggest plopping and pomade. The pomade for shine, and the plopping for more curl at the roots.

    I've had very good luck with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]Kinky Curly Curling Custard[/buylink], but it's pricey ($25 plus shipping --- ouch), and you do have to scrunch, but great hold. I know not every 2 can use it though.

    I wonder if a creme rather than a gel would help with your frizzies?
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Thanks to both for the suggestions! I think I'm going to try pomade, since I have some, and like I said, I'm broke. Although I *did* just get the Ulta mailer, with a bunch of discounts and a bazillion extra points. So I might spring on some products in the next week or two.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
    Stolen.
  • lebanesecurlylebanesecurly Posts: 161Registered Users
    I suggest Beyond the Zone's Noodle Head. It's a curl cream, but it has a lot of hold. It's between 5 and 6 dollars at Sally's. It's made my hair do amazing things =D (But it does have cones, in case you're wary of those kinds of things.)
    claiming a 2c/3aMiii
    growing my hair out to BSL
    & mod-CG as of 9/1/08 :blob5:
    Low-poo: VitaminShampoo pomegranate+blackberry
    'Poo to clarify: BTZ Noodlehead
    Condish: GVP Conditioning Balm
    Stylers: LOOB! GVP Detangler, HESMU
    Put away for winter: PMRT, TW, LVPNG

    On the rare occasion that I straighten: leave-in V05 vanilla mint, 3-in-1, and Tizz no Frizz
    Pineapples, clips, diffusers, and paper towels are my hair's best friends.
    .I'm a PJ.

  • SunshineGrrlSunshineGrrl Posts: 3,823Registered Users
    My experience has been that if you want to wear your hair curly, don't put any frizz serum in your hair. In general, they have like 20 bazillion silicones and don't let any other products work very well on your hair. In short, frizz serums do not play well with others.

    A curl cream may be the way to go, but I would retry a gel without the frizz serum on your hair. Clarify your hair to get the silicones out, then style just using the gel and see how it goes...mmmkay? I now officially feel like a mom. Sorry.