Denman Brush...Am I the only one...

hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
who can't make it work? LOL. I have the D4 (I think) and I only use it on soaking wet hair loaded with conditioner but it seems like I loose way more hair with this than detangling with my fingers or a wide tooth comb. Also, I seem to loose my curl pattern and my hair gets very poofy even if I run more water and conditioner through my hair after brushing it with this. I really wanted to like this since it seems to enhance everyone else's curls...
"I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

~mix of 4a/b??
~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...

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  • ShonesShones Registered Users Posts: 244
    The Denman and I were road dawgs for a while right when i first bought it. It's great for detangling while soaking wet and slick with conditioner. My issue (sort of) was that it would create these awesome curl clumps, but they wouldn't stay. I could brush it all to the back and it would look amazing while wet, but then of course it would never dry in that same shape. I would look like some kind of lizard, with 4ab pieces sticking up on top and 3c on the sides laying almost flat and wavy.

    How long is your hair? Mine is about 4-5 inches. I think that once it's much longer, the Denman will do amazing things for me. But for now my lovely little D3 will spend most of its time in the drawer.
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  • anonymous_4926anonymous_4926 Registered Users Posts: 678
    when you first start to use the denman, it does seem like you're losing much more hair. but remember, that your fingers and a wide tooth comb don't tend to remove the shed hairs.

    i freaked out when i first used mine, but i checked the hairs to make sure they had bulbs on them. now, you can see breakage with a denman if you have the knots at the ends of strands that causes hairs to snap and pop.

    i saw on some other threads that some people rely on the denman to only remove shed hairs once a week or less frequently.
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  • rainshowerrainshower Registered Users Posts: 4,420
    i use the denman d41. its just like the d4, only the bristles are spaced a little farther a part. this works perfectly on my hair, which is a combination of 4a and 3c.

    i detangle with it once weekly, brushing down to the scalp, massaging it. each week, i brush out an amount smaller than a small cotton ball. and my hair is long, so a lot of that is length balled up.

    as with any detangling, you should start from the ends and work your way gradually up.

    the key, for me, to using the d41 is that when i hit a snarl, i flip that section of hair over and brush it out from the back. this loosens the tangles from a different angle. i flip the section back and resume brushing. i repeat the same action when i hit a snarl until the brush is able to pass through effortlessly through the entire section. i usually detangle my hair in 4 sections. sometimes i'll do 5.

    an equally important key in my success with the denman d41 is that i finger detangle on dry hair before i even shampoo. i also finger detangle while shampoo is in, and i finger detangle after applying conditioner. by the time i'm ready to use the denman with conditioner still in my hair, i don't have a whole lot of tangles to work through. this is what contributes to the small amount of hair i brush out each week.
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  • tjbrattjbrat Registered Users Posts: 67
    I LOVE my denman. It really does detangle well. I generally use it when I poo, which is once a week or every two weeks. I don't do it while in the shower because I like to take my time. I have a d5 and it works miracles. I generally do about 6 sections and start from there. My technique is much like rainshower when it comes to getting tangles out.
  • hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
    Shones wrote: »

    How long is your hair? Mine is about 4-5 inches. I think that once it's much longer, the Denman will do amazing things for me. But for now my lovely little D3 will spend most of its time in the drawer.

    I haven't measured my hair, but it's just grazing bra strap when it's flat iron. When I wear it curly and add the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] gel it's about shoulder length.
    "I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

    ~mix of 4a/b??
    ~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...
  • sohohairsohohair Registered Users Posts: 34
    I also find that the Denman brush obliterates my curl definition and leaves me with swirly poofiness, but I don't mind that every now and again. I use my Denman once every 3-4 weeks to remove shed hair, otherwise I just finger detangle daily.
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  • hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
    curlymami wrote: »
    when you first start to use the denman, it does seem like you're losing much more hair. but remember, that your fingers and a wide tooth comb don't tend to remove the shed hairs.

    i freaked out when i first used mine, but i checked the hairs to make sure they had bulbs on them. now, you can see breakage with a denman if you have the knots at the ends of strands that causes hairs to snap and pop.

    i saw on some other threads that some people rely on the denman to only remove shed hairs once a week or less frequently.

    The hair in the brush is long and it has a bulb, so it's not broken strands, it just seems like so much...But I guess you're right because I don't really detangle my hair all that much. I think I will only use it when I'm going to blow dry and flat iron my hair because it seems like it really flattens my curl.
    "I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

    ~mix of 4a/b??
    ~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...
  • hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
    sohohair wrote: »
    I also find that the Denman brush obliterates my curl definition and leaves me with swirly poofiness, but I don't mind that every now and again. I use my Denman once every 3-4 weeks to remove shed hair, otherwise I just finger detangle daily.

    Glad to know I'm not the only one! I think I'm going to stick to your method.
    "I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

    ~mix of 4a/b??
    ~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...
  • hairenvyhairenvy Registered Users Posts: 47
    I love my Denman brush!

    I recently found an additional way to use it in order for it to KEEP the curl definition.

    I like to use it in the shower to detangle my hair and more importantly remove all of the shedded hair.

    But the trick I uncovered to great curl definition with the Denman is to use it AFTER the shower. Use it with your styling product!

    I apply my styling product section by section and then brush through just that section. The curl definition is amazing! And it lasts till dry.

    More information on the method is on my website:
    http://www.long-healthy-hair-advisor.com/natural-curls.html
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  • GlammourGirlGlammourGirl Registered Users Posts: 131
    Hautecocoa (love that name by the way), I'm tripping on your join date. What's up with that?
  • hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
    Hautecocoa (love that name by the way), I'm tripping on your join date. What's up with that?

    LOL!! I've been wondering the same thing. It actually kind of bothers me lol. I think it did it automatically and I can't even change it in my profile. I wonder if I can email and have it changed??
    "I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

    ~mix of 4a/b??
    ~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...
  • GlammourGirlGlammourGirl Registered Users Posts: 131
    LOL! I was tripping! And I had to go and point it out. My bad!

    You probably can send them an email and have them change it behind the scenes.
  • hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
    hairenvy wrote: »
    I love my Denman brush!

    I recently found an additional way to use it in order for it to KEEP the curl definition.

    I like to use it in the shower to detangle my hair and more importantly remove all of the shedded hair.

    But the trick I uncovered to great curl definition with the Denman is to use it AFTER the shower. Use it with your styling product!

    I apply my styling product section by section and then brush through just that section. The curl definition is amazing! And it lasts till dry.

    More information on the method is on my website:
    http://www.long-healthy-hair-advisor.com/natural-curls.html

    I wonder if this would work on 4a/b hair though??
    "I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

    ~mix of 4a/b??
    ~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...
  • hautecocoahautecocoa Registered Users Posts: 258
    LOL! I was tripping! And I had to go and point it out. My bad!

    You probably can send them an email and have them change it behind the scenes.

    LOL..especially since the internet wasn't even around then.
    "I'd love to kiss you, but I just washed my hair." Bette Davis, Cabin in the Cotton

    ~mix of 4a/b??
    ~my only staples are TJ Nourish (for cowash/detangling) & Lush henna (bc it's pre-mixed). everything else is still up in the air...
  • hairenvyhairenvy Registered Users Posts: 47
    Certainly can't hurt to give it a try. :)
    hautecocoa wrote: »
    hairenvy wrote: »
    I love my Denman brush!

    I recently found an additional way to use it in order for it to KEEP the curl definition.

    I like to use it in the shower to detangle my hair and more importantly remove all of the shedded hair.

    But the trick I uncovered to great curl definition with the Denman is to use it AFTER the shower. Use it with your styling product!

    I apply my styling product section by section and then brush through just that section. The curl definition is amazing! And it lasts till dry.

    More information on the method is on my website:
    http://www.long-healthy-hair-advisor.com/natural-curls.html

    I wonder if this would work on 4a/b hair though??
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Registered Users Posts: 15,402 Curl Neophyte
    A lot of 4a-b's use a brush that way.

    I picked up a D4 after reading the biracialhair site, but it did pull my hair too much. The bristles are too long and hard for me, so I swapped it. I'm still trying to do the brush in conditioner in small sections method though. Got a Spornette brush and that seems to work. Also have a Mason Pearson Junior and that works too. But brushing wet hair does scare me because of my thinning issues.
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  • Riot CrrlRiot Crrl Registered Users Posts: 3,135
    [/lurk]

    She swapped it to ME and it saved me from shaving my head.

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  • Flower princessFlower princess Registered Users Posts: 608
    I bought one (the D3) because of all those rave reviews and because i thought it would make detangling easier unfortunately it didn't!The first time i used it my hair loose it's thickness because of all the hair that came out.I thought of using it again but never did.I took it back to the store to change it but they said they couldn't because of hygiene matters (?).Anyway so i kept it i was so upset of spending so much money for it and it did nothing.So after a long time (more than 2 months) i thought of using it again. About a week ago i used it again.I had cornrowed my hair and my NG was somehow smooth so i took the brush and whenever i unbraid a cornrow i would smooth a moisturizer on it and use the brush to detangle on my dry hair .It worked great and left me with a super big hair everyone at home was looking at my hair surprised the never knew i had so much hair.(I'm transitioning and have 9months growth).But i still lose lots of hair (probably because i wore the cornrows for 3weeks) but i like to use it this way rather than on wet hair (after that i shampooed my hair i think this helped me somehow by preventing it to tangle badly while shampooing).If you try this method pls tell me how it works for you.Sorry sorry sorry for the long post but i had to explain it in details.:wink:
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  • lala08lala08 Registered Users Posts: 30
    I hate this brush! I end up w/a short fro and broken ends. I have tried it several times and I always end up w/broken shrunken up hair. :thumbdown:
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Registered Users Posts: 15,402 Curl Neophyte
    Riot Crrl wrote: »
    [/lurk]

    She swapped it to ME and it saved me from shaving my head.

    [lurk]
    Glad it's working!
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  • rainshowerrainshower Registered Users Posts: 4,420
    i think you should only brush hair wet when it has a really good slippery conditioner in it, otherwise you stand the chance of permanently stretching out the elasticity of your hair as you work out the tangles.

    brushing 70-80% dry hair is good too because it's not dry, but not wet either. the only thing is that you have to have most of your tangles already out and a good leave-in before finishing with the brush, otherwise you'll be hearing snapping, crackling, and popping!
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  • mslanee1mslanee1 Registered Users Posts: 439
    hautecocoa wrote: »
    hairenvy wrote: »
    I love my Denman brush!

    I recently found an additional way to use it in order for it to KEEP the curl definition.

    I like to use it in the shower to detangle my hair and more importantly remove all of the shedded hair.

    But the trick I uncovered to great curl definition with the Denman is to use it AFTER the shower. Use it with your styling product!

    I apply my styling product section by section and then brush through just that section. The curl definition is amazing! And it lasts till dry.

    More information on the method is on my website:
    http://www.long-healthy-hair-advisor.com/natural-curls.html

    I wonder if this would work on 4a/b hair though??

    it works on my 4a/4b hair. If I use the denman to brush through my hair section by section as I apply my styler I get very nice curls. I dont do it that often though because it takes TIME and it caused me shrinkage.
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  • natashamcknatashamck Registered Users Posts: 434
    I personally love my denman - it helps my curls to clump in a way that I can't get with just a wide-tooth comb. I recommended it to my friend and she used it exactly the same way I did, but it didn't do the same thing for her...

    There's the goody brush that MsKitty started a thread on: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=45267

    The bristles are spaced further apart, shorter and more flexible, so if you have issues with the denman pulling on your hair, this one may be better :)
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  • sunshowersunshower Registered Users Posts: 229
    i bought one and i can't say that i like it. it didn't really help my hair clump. actually it made it a lot frizzier. it might work better with a more slippery conditioner like rainshower suggested, but the last thing i need is another conditioner. plus, i can detangle just fine with my trusty Mebco comb.

    i *may* give it another try, but i don't see myself using it very much in the future.
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  • curlee1curlee1 Registered Users Posts: 48
    MIXED REVIEWS!!! how do you know which 1 works best for your hair? I hope it's not trial and error.

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  • empressriempressri Registered Users Posts: 4,812
    the only way to know if something works is, well, trial by error lol.

    it works for me but im GENTLE with it. by no means can i rush using the denman or i will pull hair out. i do it in small sections with my leave-in on my hair.
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  • gabbyluvzgabbyluvz Registered Users Posts: 7
    so what i'm getting is that... your hair should be wet and slippery with conditioner or leave- in. I'm asking because i have been trying to work it into my regimen, but it feels like does not detangle as well as my trusty wide toothed comb. hmmmm.... maybe i should use it in the shower instead of my shower comb. ??? clueless??? guess i'll see how that goes.
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  • shainalashainala Registered Users Posts: 125
    hautecocoa wrote: »
    who can't make it work? LOL. I have the D4 (I think) and I only use it on soaking wet hair loaded with conditioner but it seems like I loose way more hair with this than detangling with my fingers or a wide tooth comb. Also, I seem to loose my curl pattern and my hair gets very poofy even if I run more water and conditioner through my hair after brushing it with this. I really wanted to like this since it seems to enhance everyone else's curls...

    Denman brushes make my hair way too straight. No thank you~:occasion5:

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