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Give me frizz I tells ya!

Hi all,

This is my first post so be gentle. :toothy7:I've been reading all the posts with interest but I seem to be in a minority on the board because I like big hair.

My hair was relaxed over ten years ago & even though the hair has grown out out, it changed the chemical structure of my hair. My curls are very well defined so that is not my problem. The problem is that I just don't have enough of them & my hair is really thin.

Basically, I seem to want to do the opposite of most people on the board & make my hair bigger with more volume. I look at some of the pictures pre CG and I prefer them. I've never been a fan of sleek, controlled hair. I like my hair, big, wild & crazy.

I've started using shampoo on 3/4 of my hair & conditioning the ends & that seems to have made an improvement to my hair in only one week. I've stopped putting shea butter on the ends of my hair every night & that has improved my hair as well. I'll only do that once a week & play around with it. I might go back to conditioner only as the shea butter may have been the problem.

So my question is can anyone suggest any techniques or styling products that will give my hair more volume? I don't use a hairdryer on my hair so a diffuser is not an option. Waxes tend to work best on my hair. The bigger the better :mrgreen:

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  • Riot CrrlRiot Crrl Posts: 3,135Registered Users
    I dunno, I think a lot of folks around here seem to like volume. Every once in a while someone asks how to get less volume and I'm always just like "Leave in more stuff" lol. But that is kind of rare. A lot of people want to condition their hair without weighing it down too much.

    Other than not leaving in so much stuff, which it sounds like you are already doing, if I want to embiggen my hair then I do the old bend at waist, slide fingers in roots, rub/mess it up a little. I am not too familiar with wax, but if it has hold, maybe you could wax your fingers a little before doing this.
  • 30isthenewblack30isthenewblack Posts: 49Registered Users
    Thank you for your response but I do think there is a difference between wanting a bit of volume & having big hair. I do the whole tipping my head over & messing it up a little & it works a treat. If there are any suggestions on what products I could use that could super size my hair, that would be great :)
  • Babyk005Babyk005 Posts: 205Registered Users
    This is probably obvious but have you tried a volumizing mousse or a thickening cream?? Flipping your head upside down should help a little.
  • 30isthenewblack30isthenewblack Posts: 49Registered Users
    I used to use mousse but I find that it leaves my hair limp. I've got some here so I might give it a go. I live in Australia & we don't have much of a selection range. If I can get actual product recommendations, that would be great & I can order them online from the US. I love that picture in your signature Babyk005 :)
  • marinacurlzmarinacurlz Posts: 1,720Registered Users
    depending on if you are cg or not, I used to have great luck with the pink can of suave mousse or if you want to spend a little more I used that red can of mousse by that sexy hair or big sexy hair whatever brand-it gave volume!

    Now I just want volume on the top but no where else!
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    password: curly

    3B w/3A underneath

    Medium texture
    Average porosity

    Crazy-picky hair; likes some oils and proteins, but not others, can tolerate some glycerin.

    Current products-
    Co-wash: Suave/Vo5/TJ Refresh
    Rinse out & Leave in: Suave Tropical Coconut/Garnier Triple Nutrition
    Gel: Herbal Essences Set Me Up/Aussie Tizz No Frizz
  • aussiecurlyaussiecurly Posts: 20Registered Users
    I live in Australia too, and frequently make international product purchases. The best products I have used are largely made in the US/Canada. It is my little indulgence!

    I have thick hair but don't like that crispy glued to the scalp feeling that I get with some gels.

    I found jessicurl products left my hair soft and light. Also, I invested in a curlease towel and plop with that. It gives me great height at my crown.

    Otherwise, as others have suggested, bending and scrunching in product helps too!

    I just had a look at the pics you posted...most of them look like heavily layered cuts, with short layers on top. Maybe that would help also?
  • 30isthenewblack30isthenewblack Posts: 49Registered Users
    I live in Australia too, and frequently make international product purchases. The best products I have used are largely made in the US/Canada. It is my little indulgence!

    I have thick hair but don't like that crispy glued to the scalp feeling that I get with some gels.

    I found jessicurl products left my hair soft and light. Also, I invested in a curlease towel and plop with that. It gives me great height at my crown.

    Otherwise, as others have suggested, bending and scrunching in product helps too!

    I just had a look at the pics you posted...most of them look like heavily layered cuts, with short layers on top. Maybe that would help also?

    I love hearing from fellow Aussies :) I'm sure you feel my pain that you hear all these great products being promoted that are not available in Australia.

    I've got this system where I put product in my hair, hop on the train or in the car & then try & scrunch out some of the product. I used this really great product called Wella's Strong Shaping Mud & then it had to go and get discontinued :sad8: I've been testing all these products but they haven't been all that great & they are expensive!

    I don't have Jessiecurl products but I did try that method of putting in products where the hair is soaking wet & all it did was make my hair flat. The curl was defined but it lost it's volume but then again, I wasn't using her particularly product.

    I've got layers in my hair but some idiot hairdresser took it upon himself to even out one of my layers when I last got my hair cut. I hate hairdressers. I've still got a few layers in my hair & I like layered hair. Definitely no blunt cuts for me. I think layers are definitely key. I don't want all my hair at one length.

    Where do you get the Jessiecurl products & the curlease towel? There seems to be a few of us on this site. Maybe we can even put in a bulk order, try for a bulk discount & split the international postage.
  • CurlFaceCurlFace Posts: 176Registered Users
    Hi there!

    I also like big curly hair. Kind of wild looking! Anyways, honestly, for me so far one of the only ways i've gotten my hair to be bigger was by using a diffuser while drying my hair upside down. (I know you said you don't use a dryer....) I used to use gel in the morning after washing, but it left my hair looking wet all day and sort of flat (not straight, just- flat...) Also, when I use a product to curl, I tip my head over, shake it out just a little, and I don't run the product all through my hair, I just scrunch it through all over my head.
    Type: 3a - type 1 on the underside. Thinning.
    :glasses11:
    Currently using:
    -Organix Tea Tree Mint Shampoo (occasionally)
    -Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition conditioner
    -Suave Waterfall Mist Conditioner or Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific as leave-in
    -A mix of Shique Gel and HE Totally Twisted mousse
    -FX Curls Up Mousse, on occasion


  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I actually don't mind big hair for myself, so long as it's not frizzed out. lol, my problem is that usually when my frizz is under control, the volume goes down a bit.

    The one product I'd reccomend is any kind of root lifter. I have one made by Matrix (I'm not sure if it's available here, I'm sorry :() and it works GREAT. You could probably use it seveal inches up from your scalp to get even more height and volume if you wanted.

    Or if you don't mind some frizz and poof, you can always comb out some of the curl. lol, I did it as an experiment and fully anticipated that my hair would look a mess but I actually kind of liked how it came out! there are pics in the Fotki in my signature if you're interested. (I think they're in my 'random' album)
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • curlyjenn10curlyjenn10 Posts: 2,034Registered Users
    I think being CG is not about getting rid of volume (though some may want that occasionally). For me it was about getting actual curls. Pre-CG was frizzy, poufy, barely wavy hair. There is a difference between frizz and volume.

    That said, I do think the best way to get volume is to diffuse upside down. Air drying leaves me with flat, less curly hair. After it's dry (after diffusing carefully to avoid frizz while still getting volume), I bend upside down and shake my roots a little. That always gives volume on top. I think Jonathan Torch does it towards the end of the CK video on his website, if you need a visual.
  • jenbuggy85jenbuggy85 Posts: 232Registered Users
    OH OH OH OH~!!! the girl in that first pic has my hair...but mine is 10 times bigger!! i LOOOOOOVE my big hair!!! i really dont have to do anything to get it that big. but SOMETIMES when it is a lil smaller than id like... i blown dry...no diffuser, upside down.. blow the heck out of it! FOR ALL MY CG PEEPS...i dont do that but maybe 1 time in 3 months. blow dry when its MAYBE 65% dry? i use ouidad climate control gel. but ive found another (better priced..just as good) product called naturelle hypo-allergenic styling gel at sallys. maybe $5.50? ill try to get a pic up in a few days.. i need to put some up anyways..dangit.. if i could figure out how..lol hope this helps!! and welcome nc.com!!!! jen:toothy7:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Biotera Styling gel (firm hold)
    Biotera Curl creme
    Sauve Naturals coconut conditioner as Co-wash and leave in.


    After all this I get about 3 or 4 days of good "wearable" hair.

    PROUD MOMMY AND ARMY WIFE!:toothy7:
  • OneCurlyMammaOneCurlyMamma Posts: 11Registered Users
    I'm resurrecting this post. I am having THE BEST big hair day today ala Shakira!!
  • MintMint Posts: 1,143Registered Users
    I love volume too! Mousse can be much lighter than gel (though using too much destroys my volume). Look for light conditioners and strong shampoos if you want to dry out your hair to puff it up. I don't recommend oils or (heavy) silicones.

    Herbal Essences has a handy conditioning chart on the FAQs of their website if you're interested in trying their products.
    2a/M-C/ii hair. Super long.
  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users
    I don't like the wet, limp look either, so I guess by default I like volume! I don't put a lot of product in my hair and that seems to help me. I usually just use a leave-in conditioner and scrunch it when it's dry. For more volume (and possible frizz, since your OP says you want frizz too), you could scrunch several times while it's still drying. I air dry too. I just love the feel of my soft, fluffy, curly, lightly frizzy hair. It's light and airy.
    If I use a styler, besides a leave-in, it's usually a curl cream...but I go light with it...I make sure not to put too much in.
    No gel for me...my hair hates it...and it will definitely defeat the purpose of what you're going for.
    That's right, I said it! I wear scrunchies!!

    I am a sulfate washing, cone slabbing, curly lovin' s.o.b. The CG police haven't caught me yet.
    :blob8:

    3a/3b
  • sharon5152sharon5152 Posts: 207Registered Users
    I agree with Curlyjenn about diffusing; First, after I've put in my products I diffuse the roots around my part to give some lift on top. Then when it's practically air-dryed, I diffuse some more and when I'm done, voila! Big curly hair!

    However, one thought: after hair is air-dryed, scrunching upside down with a bit of conditioner emulsified on your hands, might help...Good luck!
    3a/b
    Wash: CJ Daily Fix, KM shampoo bars, Giovanni 50:50 Clarifying
    Co-wash/Condish: Curls Coconut Sublime Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI & Styling: KBB milk, CJ Beauticurls LI, CJ Coffee-Coco Curl Lite cream, CJ CIAB
    DT: CJ Hibiscus & Banana Deep Fix, Shea Butter

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  • FrizzBgoneFrizzBgone Posts: 2,678Registered Users
    I love volume as well. I would rather have some frizz than well defined flat curls. I hate when my hair looks like it is stuck to my head.

    I really like Komaza Curl Pudding and the new Curl Junkie products ([buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel-p-941.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel]Aloe Fix[/buylink] & Smoothing Gellie). I get lots of curls, but still get the volume. I also get volume from Curls by Sisters Smith Wet Set Pudding, but I don't think they ship internationally.

    Ohm Sweet Hair Pudding is a good product as well, but I don't get the same amount of volume that I get from CJ and Komaza.

    In addition to diffusing, I use 2" bobby pins on the sides of my hair. It was a trick my hairdresser showed me. When I start diffusing, I clip my hair. As the curls start to set, I remove the clips and continue diffusing. When my hair is damp, I put the long (2") bobbypins on the side of my head. My hair stylist showed me how to do it. She takes the tip of the bobby pin and does a stirring motion with the pin until you feel it grab the hair. She then pushes it in . It lifts the hair. I do one behind my ear and one in front of it. I put them in on an angle, so that the top of the bobby pin doesn't show. It makes a big difference if you do that stirring motion - I don't get the same volume without it. I often leave the clips in for quite awhile ... either until it is completely dry or until I remember them or they start to bug me ... that's normally when I remember them.

    By using the pins, I still get the defined curls I like, but I also get the volume.
    Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
    ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
    Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
  • kitten59kitten59 Posts: 68Registered Users
    Another big, wild hair lover here! Hate the tamed to within an inch of its life look. I've also seen lots of pre cg hair that I thought looked much better, even before and after shots in hair product ads! Sometimes it looks so sad and limp (and kinda greasy), like all the life has been sucked out of it after going cg. I know that it doesn't have to be like that, which is why, for me, I've found being a modified CG works much better.
    CG for 1.5 months
    Wavy + curly
    Products I'm rotating:
    Suave, Vo5, ACV w/honey, Giovanni Tea Tree, Giovanni 50/50
    Leave-ins- KCKT, Bioinfusion Cond. Balm, Biosilk Smoothing Balm, Giovanni DLI
    LOOB, KCSS

    Protein DT: Joico K-Pak

    Playing with:
    Loma Imply, KBBSS, KBHN, shampoo bars from KM
    KCCC, CBSS WSHP, DM Lock + Twist, DM Coco Curly

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  • DrainCloggerDrainClogger Posts: 73Registered Users
    Mousse instead of gel, for sure. There is one in a red can from CVS...Big Sexy Hair IIRC? That gives extra volume.

    And CoN shampoo, red label, always gives me bigger hair.
    2C in most weather, but in summertime I impersonate a 3 very very well!
  • mrl234mrl234 Posts: 548Registered Users
    I agree with you, really. Too much frizz is annoying, but some surface frizz looks natural and doesn't bother me at all. I certainly prefer it to the rock hard, kind of flat, overproducty look. I fluff mine at the roots a bit as it's drying; it adds a bit of frizz, but it helps prevent flatness at the very top. Mine is kind of big naturally so it doesn't really need that much help.
    :happy10:
    fia 2C/3A-F-iii, sensitive to some proteins
    CGish since 10-16-08
    Low-poo: Yes to Carrots Daily Pampering Shampoo (1-2x/week)
    Rinse outs: Yes to Carrots Pampering Mud Conditioner
    Styling: a little bit of leave in and a little bit of KCCC, diffusing
    Olive oil DTs, honey rinses in the summer :)
  • OneCurlyMammaOneCurlyMamma Posts: 11Registered Users
    I was having the worst hair days and I actually posted a message last week about it.

    I love hair like Shakira's and I can pull it off, usually, with my own hair. However, when I was doing CG it became flat and the curls were well defined but I lost almost all my body! Oh and my hair hated the magnesium sulfate I was bombarding it with (I've returned the products).

    This week, I've done some experiencing and I think I found my own personal method, which is CG-Mod, to get my volume back (and then some!).

    I'm using TJ's Tingle shampoo and conditioner. I'm shampooing every other day. I rinse out the condish and actually wrap my hair in a turbin (like you're not supposed to do!) rather than blotting (as per CG). After doing various other things I shake my partially dry hair out, apply a pea size of TJ's condish, actually comb it through with a wide-tooth comb, define my part and THEN scrunch in some gel (Giovanni's LA one). Not too much. Then I diffuse while scrunching with my hands and voila! Big, well defined, curls with just enough frizz.

    My hair did not like me applying product when dripping wet. It didn't like being blotted and it likes to be combed through with a little condish prior to scrunching in product!

    Natural but not quite CG and I have my big hair back!!!
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    I was having the worst hair days and I actually posted a message last week about it.

    I love hair like Shakira's and I can pull it off, usually, with my own hair. However, when I was doing CG it became flat and the curls were well defined but I lost almost all my body! Oh and my hair hated the magnesium sulfate I was bombarding it with (I've returned the products).

    This week, I've done some experiencing and I think I found my own personal method, which is CG-Mod, to get my volume back (and then some!).

    I'm using TJ's Tingle shampoo and conditioner. I'm shampooing every other day. I rinse out the condish and actually wrap my hair in a turbin (like you're not supposed to do!) rather than blotting (as per CG). After doing various other things I shake my partially dry hair out, apply a pea size of TJ's condish, actually comb it through with a wide-tooth comb, define my part and THEN scrunch in some gel (Giovanni's LA one). Not too much. Then I diffuse while scrunching with my hands and voila! Big, well defined, curls with just enough frizz.

    My hair did not like me applying product when dripping wet. It didn't like being blotted and it likes to be combed through with a little condish prior to scrunching in product!

    Natural but not quite CG and I have my big hair back!!!
    GOOD for YOU!!! I applaud the FRIZZ!!! LIVE ON the FRIZZ!!!! WOOT! :blob:

    I only say this because, I ALWAYS have some frizz no matter what it's either that or totally stuck to me helmet head.
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • wavyblondewavyblonde Posts: 1,637Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Sorry to necromance this thread, but this is exactly what I've been thinking about lately. My curls are so much more defined since doing CG, and I think my hair's healthier, but I really miss the volume and slight frizz. I want wild hair!

    Is there a mousse that gives good curl hold AND volume? The LALSG I'm using gives good hold, but I get zero volume.
    2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

    Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
    Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
    Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
    Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
    SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
    http://public.fotki.com/wavyblonde/hair-2010/
  • MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
    Hah. I got tired of close-to-the head hair today, and I finger-combed out my clumps. That gave me instant side volume (though crown volume is still eluding me with these natural curls). See the result in this fotki albume of mine /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2FMirCurls%2Fcurl-products-and-h%2F" class="Popup with the caption that says FINGER-COMBED 2nd day hair. The next pic, I retamed it with some CIAB. :D

    I do love volume, though. I miss 80's hair. hah.
    3a3b
    Natural since 11/25/09
    Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
    Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

    Curl Junkie Conditions!
    Eden BW Cleansing Condish Rocks!

    ~CJ Protein Tx
    ; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
    ~SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
    Dumped clumps for VOLUME!

    Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
  • wavyblondewavyblonde Posts: 1,637Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    MirCurls wrote: »
    Hah. I got tired of close-to-the head hair today, and I finger-combed out my clumps. That gave me instant side volume (though crown volume is still eluding me with these natural curls). See the result in this fotki albume of mine /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2FMirCurls%2Fcurl-products-and-h%2F" class="Popup with the caption that says FINGER-COMBED 2nd day hair. The next pic, I retamed it with some [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curls-in-a-Bottle-p-995.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curls-in-a-Bottle]CIAB[/buylink]. :D

    I do love volume, though. I miss 80's hair. hah.

    Totally! I have been fingercombing some, too, especially for 2nd day hair. I'm kind of afraid to do it to 1st day hair, b/c I want to get a couple days out of it. Today, I did the thing where you massage the roots, and then I scrunched some Pantene pomade in for texture. It's a little bigger! I think next time I wash, I'll try some combo of mousse and gel. I think my roots like mousse, and my curls like gel.
    2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

    Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
    Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
    Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
    Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
    SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
    http://public.fotki.com/wavyblonde/hair-2010/
  • MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
    I ordered Joiwhip last week cause I suspect I will be the same--roots with mousse and curls with gel. I cannot live with a flat crown. Seriously, it's what will make me go un-CG. If I can't get lift-off with CG, then I'll go modified CG. Flat-top is so gross on me.
    3a3b
    Natural since 11/25/09
    Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
    Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

    Curl Junkie Conditions!
    Eden BW Cleansing Condish Rocks!

    ~CJ Protein Tx
    ; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
    ~SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
    Dumped clumps for VOLUME!

    Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
  • wavyblondewavyblonde Posts: 1,637Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    MirCurls wrote: »
    I ordered Joiwhip last week cause I suspect I will be the same--roots with mousse and curls with gel. I cannot live with a flat crown. Seriously, it's what will make me go un-CG. If I can't get lift-off with CG, then I'll go modified CG. Flat-top is so gross on me.

    Ooh, I just went and read about that mousse! Sounds like good stuff--maybe just what we need. I may swing by Ulta tomorrow and pick some up. I like Joico products anyway.

    I'm with you. I can't do a flat top. Maybe we need to start a club or something! :queen:
    2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

    Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
    Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
    Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
    Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
    SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
    http://public.fotki.com/wavyblonde/hair-2010/
  • parzyparzy Posts: 246Registered Users
    This is exactly the issue that was my lightbulb moment after a couple of years on this site!

    After spending a completely vulgar amount of money on all the HGs and product bandwagons on here I came to realize that it wasn't so much that the products everyone else liked didn't agree with my hair, it just didn't give me the style I was looking for...and lots of the products I use and like would be a total waste for others.

    I still fall onto the PJ bandwagon but I try to think about not only the characteristics of my hair but how my preferred style might differ from the norm.

    I like my hair bigger and more undefined than most and I don't really care about encouraging curl.

    I use low poo most days, just a tad of conditioner and no leave in, and then a lot less product than most would use.

    I also find that my dry hair likes product more than wet hair and like that forever ago original poster, waxes are my friend (that is what I use the Curliso [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curlisto-Unruly-Paste-p-134.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curlisto-unruly-paste]Unruly Paste[/buylink] for).

    I am not alone!
    2b (a fine 'n porous wavy)...and finally growing out :-)

    Wash: Deva Low-poo
    Condish and leave in: OneC or Suave Coconut

    Styler: Angell or the Deva foam, sometimes KKKC

    Etc: Set It Free as a refresher

    Protien: Looking for one

    I love hairspray...don't judge
  • goobernutgoobernut Posts: 2,317Registered Users
    I love volume too, and have found I'd rather have waves and big hair than curly flat hair.

    I like Sally's Ion Vitalizing thickener and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-CoffeeCoco-Curl-Creme-p-488.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curl-junkie-coffeecoco-curl-creme]CCCC[/buylink] lite gives me lots of volume.

    I have to use the diffuser, otherwise my hair dries completely flat to my head. Yuk. I'm with MirCurls, I'll dump this whole thing if I have to live with "flat-hair-on-head" syndrome. So far I haven't, but now that my hair is getting longer, its getting harder. Hopefully a haircut will solve that issue.
    Grand Goobah Caedran, Aqueous Infusion of Demulcents, Order of the Curly Crusaders

    Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : DermOrganics Shampoo and IHM, G2B Kinkier Mousse, Re:Coil VMM, Anything Spiral Solutions! MO Sealing. Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.
  • CurlyToastCurlyToast Posts: 579Registered Users
    Ohmigod! I AM NOT ALONE!!!! :wave::wave::wave:

    I just found this site, what, like 2 months ago (lurked for awhile), looking for a way to bring back my crazy huge curls from the brink of dehydration. While some of the products mentioned have been great, it's really the techniques that made me the most difference for my hair. I pretty much instantly got giant, clumpy ringlets just adapting my non-CG routine to new diffusing, blotting, and product application techniques.

    And they were beautiful. And they were novel. And I rocked them proudly all "ooooh! I have bouncy, shiny curls!"

    And then I realized I was contemplating buying new clothes because non of my extant wardrobe really looked right with this new civilized head of hair I was sporting for, like, the first time ever.

    And *then* I realized that I didn't need new clothes, I just needed to find a happy medium for me and my hair.

    I'm getting close with blotting out excess water, using less leave-in, and applying gel (with a slight finger rake, followed by upside down scrunching) once my hair has dried a bit. And then, if diffusing, adding some finger-initiated root shake while I use the diffuser bowl to scrunch. Slowly, we're returning the crazy. :glasses7:
  • wavyblondewavyblonde Posts: 1,637Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

    Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
    Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
    Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
    Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
    SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
    http://public.fotki.com/wavyblonde/hair-2010/
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