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hair shedding really bad!!!! help

CATalpaCATalpa Posts: 28Registered Users
Hi ladies, im not sure how many of you remember my BC story, but i basically chopped cos my aunty felt away about cutting her hair short to go natural, so i did it aswell for support :P -but my hair was not relaxed, just a bit damaged from not taking care of it good...

Well, ive always had a bit of shedding, but recently my hair is comming OUT NUFF, im getting quite scared!!! Every morning i dred taking of my scarf cos i know when i runmy hands thru my hair im just seeing loads of my hair. i even asked my friend to check for bald patches... :(

During the week i use that cactus stuff shygirl reccommended (love it), and recently started using africas best liquid mayo leave in and coconut oil, could these be the cause of the shedding???? the mayo leave in is making my hair quite dry, but when i used with the oil, its ok...i also use fantasia gel maybe 1-2 a week, ive always used this with no problems...

I wash with shampoo every2 weeks, and co wash or rinse my hair twice a week.

Can anyone recommend what i can do??? Or am i going wrong somewhere? Any advice will be much appreciated please,( im not sure if this is important but my hair is 3b, 3c*mostly*, and 4a)
Can products cause your hair to shed??? What can i do to stop this shedding!?!?!?


Right now ive just washed it with , cream of nature shampoo, and have put ORS mayo and put a plastic cap......how long should i keep this??? i usually leave it for about 2 hours then air dry... :idea:
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  • urbancurlurbancurl Posts: 980Registered Users
    I'm sorry, I don't know the answers to your questions! But are you sure you're losing more than usual, or are you just noticing it now for some reason?? Your friend did not see any bald spots did she? And are you losing entire hairs, or broken hairs?
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  • CATalpaCATalpa Posts: 28Registered Users
    thanks urban curl for the response, the majority of the hairs are the not broken, a few are short broken hairs. Glad to report that my friend did not see any bald or thin spots, but im going to stop using the liquid mayo, and see what happens. i think i was noticing more of the shedding when i switched to this product but ive only been using it for a week- is it possible a product could be the cause of shedding?
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  • pixelpixel Posts: 43Users Awaiting Email Confirmation
    Hi there,

    Im so sorry to hear about your shedding problems. Ive recently had a bout with shedding - here is how I overcame it: for me, the few times that I have noticed excessive shedding in my "natural" life, my rinse-out conditioner was the culprit. I dont know how, I dont know why, but each time once I switched back to another conditioner and the shedding stopped - instantly. I have also used Dudley's DRC when I was relaxed and this instantly stopped the shedding as well.

    So I would first try switching back to a conditioner (or maybe other products as well) that you recall using when the shedding was not an issue. If that doesnt work, give the Dudley's DRC a try!

    Hope that helps!
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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    Could it possibly be that your hair is in the Telogen phase of the hair cycle? If you aren't aware, the hair does through 3 different cycles:

    Anagen - Growth Phase
    Catagen - Transitional phase
    Telogen - Resting Phase

    During the Telogen phase, the hair does not grow but stays attached to the follicle while the dermal papilla stays in a resting phase below. Approximately 10-15 percent of all hairs are in this phase at an one time.

    At the end of the Telogen phase the hair follicle re-enters the Anagen phase. The dermal papilla and the base of the follicle join together again and a new hair begins to form. If the old hair has not already been shed the new hair pushes the old one out and the growth cycle starts all over again.

    The excess hair you seem to be shedding could be hair that's at the end of this cycle, and is just starting over again. So, I wouldn't worry too much.
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  • kandesnbkandesnb Posts: 161Registered Users
    Could it possibly be that your hair is in the Telogen phase of the hair cycle? If you aren't aware, the hair does through 3 different cycles:

    Anagen - Growth Phase
    Catagen - Transitional phase
    Telogen - Resting Phase

    During the Telogen phase, the hair does not grow but stays attached to the follicle while the dermal papilla stays in a resting phase below. Approximately 10-15 percent of all hairs are in this phase at an one time.

    At the end of the Telogen phase the hair follicle re-enters the Anagen phase. The dermal papilla and the base of the follicle join together again and a new hair begins to form. If the old hair has not already been shed the new hair pushes the old one out and the growth cycle starts all over again.

    The access hair you seem to be shedding could be hair that's at the end of this cycle, and is just starting over again. So, I wouldn't worry too much.

    You are so knowledgable about hair. WoW!! I never knew that.
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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    kandesnb wrote:
    Could it possibly be that your hair is in the Telogen phase of the hair cycle? If you aren't aware, the hair does through 3 different cycles:

    Anagen - Growth Phase
    Catagen - Transitional phase
    Telogen - Resting Phase

    During the Telogen phase, the hair does not grow but stays attached to the follicle while the dermal papilla stays in a resting phase below. Approximately 10-15 percent of all hairs are in this phase at an one time.

    At the end of the Telogen phase the hair follicle re-enters the Anagen phase. The dermal papilla and the base of the follicle join together again and a new hair begins to form. If the old hair has not already been shed the new hair pushes the old one out and the growth cycle starts all over again.

    The access hair you seem to be shedding could be hair that's at the end of this cycle, and is just starting over again. So, I wouldn't worry too much.

    You are so knowledgable about hair. WoW!! I never knew that.

    Thanks, but I wouldn't necessarily say that. :) I just have ALOT of websites saved for reference.
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  • CATalpaCATalpa Posts: 28Registered Users
    Could it possibly be that your hair is in the Telogen phase of the hair cycle? If you aren't aware, the hair does through 3 different cycles:

    Anagen - Growth Phase
    Catagen - Transitional phase
    Telogen - Resting Phase

    During the Telogen phase, the hair does not grow but stays attached to the follicle while the dermal papilla stays in a resting phase below. Approximately 10-15 percent of all hairs are in this phase at an one time.

    At the end of the Telogen phase the hair follicle re-enters the Anagen phase. The dermal papilla and the base of the follicle join together again and a new hair begins to form. If the old hair has not already been shed the new hair pushes the old one out and the growth cycle starts all over again.

    The excess hair you seem to be shedding could be hair that's at the end of this cycle, and is just starting over again. So, I wouldn't worry too much.

    Possibly! This is great information, i just had a bout of growth that i didnt even notice, my friend noticed cos i cut my hair short and she was commenting on how fast it has grown.

    Im really hoping the above is the case for me. I stopped using the africas best liquid mayo leave-in a two days back, and im noticing a big big difference, but the hair cycle thing sounds like a credible reason!

    Thanks shygirl!
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  • CheleighCheleigh Posts: 552Registered Users
    CATalpa wrote:
    Im really hoping the above is the case for me. I stopped using the africas best liquid mayo leave-in a two days back, and im noticing a big big difference, but the hair cycle thing sounds like a credible reason!

    Hmmm, I use this product--and I shed a lot too. I'm about to add my leave-in to my hair right now, so I think I'll just do the Giovanni and some of my new fav moisture-marc anthony brilliant blonde styling lotion (this stuff was at Big Lots--it's main ingredients are water, sunflower oil, aloe vera, honey, chamomile, and glycerine (no cones)--too bad it's discontinued))and see if my shedding problem continues. Thanks for the tip CATalpha.
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  • CATalpaCATalpa Posts: 28Registered Users
    Cheleigh wrote:
    Hmmm, I use this product--and I shed a lot too. I'm about to add my leave-in to my hair right now, so I think I'll just do the Giovanni and some of my new fav moisture-marc anthony brilliant blonde styling lotion (this stuff was at Big Lots--it's main ingredients are water, sunflower oil, aloe vera, honey, chamomile, and glycerine (no cones)--too bad it's discontinued))and see if my shedding problem continues. Thanks for the tip CATalpha.

    Hey, im not really sure if a product can cause the shedding (no ones answered my question if wether a product can cause hair to shed- anyone know??), but cos i have only started using this product recently and noticed ALOT of shedding-my theory was the new product was to blame, cos ive never in my life seen my hair shed soooooo much!

    Let me know if you notice a difference by stopping the use of the liquid mayo!
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  • bubbles76bubbles76 Posts: 288Registered Users
    Sorry I'm so late on this topic. Certain products that are heavy in proteins can cause shedding or breakage if your hair is protein sensitive.
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  • SpookSquadSpookSquad Posts: 18Registered Users
    bubbles76 wrote: »
    Sorry I'm so late on this topic. Certain products that are heavy in proteins can cause shedding or breakage if your hair is protein sensitive.

    Apparently I'm great at bumping old threads. :laughing6:

    No, but seriously :sad7:... My hair is shedding like crazy. It's not breaking, it's shedding entire strands, and lots of them. It's not any kind of normal hair shedding either. I've seen my hair go through normal shedding phases, and this is not it.

    I notice what you said there about proteins causing shedding. I wonder if this is the problem. I don't think I've been using tons of proteins, but maybe my leave in has got to go.
    Also, I didn't notice this shedding being this bad until after I did henndigo treatment (which I'm used to) and deep conditioned a few days later overnight,(which I hadn't done before) I used a mix of conditioner with olive oil and I think honey. The conditioner was Herbal Essence Totally Twisted, which was listed somewhere as a non-protein conditioner. Was this wrong??? My hair dried hard and stayed hard, and that's when it seemed like the shedding went nuts.


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  • mamaherreramamaherrera Posts: 884Registered Users
    Do you all think 150-170 hairs a day is still ok or excessive/? That's been me lately and it's funny cuz someone mentioned to me that my frizz might be too much protein. ANd my rinse out and co-wash have protein, so I've changed those. I fixed the frizz, but still had the high shed. Maybe that will correct/get better with time too. I hope. Ive gone through TE before, so this is scary to be sheddign again. All of mine are entire hairs, with white bulb. I'm sure there are some broken, but very few. Even in the day when it's dry. I have 10-20 come out on their own. If I run my hand through my hair something comes with it!
    2c
    Medium texture
    Normal porosity
    Normal elasticity
    can get weighed down with lots of oils
    Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
    Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
    Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
    Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
    Gel: Kiss my face gel
    DT:Jessicurl
    Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
    working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
  • curliewhirliecurliewhirlie Posts: 64Registered Users
    170 hairs a day?? Are you sure that's right? I must be obtuse or something because I don't notice shedding at all. But I only comb my hair every 4 days and I don't count the hairs. Also, when I play with my hair 2 or 3 strands come out sometimes. At least its not breakage if the whole bulb comes out. Have you asked a doctor if that's normal? It may be that you're just noticing it where you weren't before. Could that be the case?
    Still figuring out my hair so these are just guesses :scratch::
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    Shampoo - KeraCare Sulfate-free Hydrating Detangling Shampoo
    Moisturizer - Pro-Line Comb Thru Softener, Tresemme Flawless Curls Hydration Lotion Creme
    Styler/Finisher - Tresemme Flawless Curls Mousse
    Mid-week Conditioner/Leave-in - Tresemme Flawless Curls Vitamin B1 Conditioner
    DT - Organic Coconut Oil left in overnight, Vatika Enriched Coconut Hair Oil
  • mamaherreramamaherrera Posts: 884Registered Users
    After gonig through TE and PCOS stuff, I've been traumatized enough to where I count at times to know what's going on. Crazy I know. You must lose at least 30 a day. But they probably fall throughout the day. I wash/rinse every day, so I'm in that hair cleaning my scalp and manipulating. I would love someone to explain to me HOW to correctly scrub/clean the scalp without causing irritation. Dont' know if I"m doing it rgiht yet?
    2c
    Medium texture
    Normal porosity
    Normal elasticity
    can get weighed down with lots of oils
    Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
    Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
    Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
    Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
    Gel: Kiss my face gel
    DT:Jessicurl
    Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
    working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go