The "Scrunch-n-Pump" = Clumps

So, I don't know if I invented a new technique or what, but I figured out a way to achieve clumps for myself - and they're good ones, too!

I did my normal routine with No Poo and OneC, which I don't rinse out all the way, so it makes that squinchy sound when I scrunch and it's still dripping and I add Angell.

But here's what I do. I coat my hands with the gel and then scrunch, but each palmful of hair that I cup, I squeeze and pump eight times for each section.

As long as I can hear that sound and it feels squishy when I pump my hand open and closed, I know it's working.

When I take my hand away, I'm left with a really soft-looking clump!

I did this all over my head to apply the gel and diffused and got gorgeous clumps!

I really find that the pumping helps distribute the product really, really well-especially for my super-dense hair.

Does anyone else do this??
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Currently Using:
Co-Wash: DevaCurl No Poo
Conditioner: DevaCurl One Condition or AOHR not completely rinsed out
Styling (any of the following): AG Re:coil, MOP C-Curl, La Bella Lots of Curls Gel, Angell, KCKT and/or KCCC, AG Mousse-Gel, PM Conditioning or Extra Body Sculpting Foam
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  • SunshineGrrlSunshineGrrl Registered Users Posts: 3,823 Curl Neophyte
    Not it, but I will certainly try! Hey, I'll give anything a try once, especially if it'll give me good clumps! I love that I'm not the only one to use the word squinchy! Love it!

  • jillipoojillipoo Registered Users Posts: 3,795 Curl Neophyte
    Well, that certainly sounds worth a try! For myself, I have found that scrunching multiple times does encourage curl, but also holding each scrunch for an additional second or two helps, too. It's like the curls need to be "started" or something. Weird.
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    CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
    CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
    GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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  • SunshineGrrlSunshineGrrl Registered Users Posts: 3,823 Curl Neophyte
    Ooooh...this is getting good, now! How is it that I've been on here for like 3 months and am just getting this intel? You people are holding out on me!

  • shellynotshellynot Registered Users Posts: 1,140
    i am 100% going to try this tomorrow!
    :blob7:
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    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Registered Users Posts: 15,678 Curl Connoisseur
    I have not tried that method (but I will) but I do what jillipoo does - I hold them for a bit when they are scrunched in my hands.
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  • hopetocurlhopetocurl Registered Users Posts: 1,280
    Okay, so we have the Jillipoo method...hold your scrunch for a few second...got it!! I'll do that tomorrow.
    Currently, using JC HCC, Too Shea, CK and CCSS, RR or LOOB or MOP-C.
    CK is the one!!

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  • msgibletmsgiblet Registered Users Posts: 5,825
    I've never really held the scrunch in place for any length of time because I think the plopping basically does that for me, but I do scrunch my product in for a pretty long time while upside down -- long enough that my back starts screaming at me to stand up!! It does help with distribution and getting the curls going.
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  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Registered Users Posts: 4,940 Curl Neophyte
    I pump it a few times, but not 8 times. Interesting.
    That's right, I said it! I wear scrunchies!!

    I am a sulfate washing, cone slabbing, curly lovin' s.o.b. The CG police haven't caught me yet.
    :blob8:

    3a/3b
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Registered Users Posts: 1,369 Curl Connoisseur
    Tried the scrunch and pump technique this morning and I got some pretty nice clumps! Thanks for mentioning this CSteen85! :thumright:
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

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  • shellynotshellynot Registered Users Posts: 1,140
    i like it! i do have better clumps today, but that could be from not using anything under the gel. usually i'll use some [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]re:coil[/buylink] or IQCCC or a combination, and work it through my hair before using gel. Since i just left some OneC in after my shower i skipped that step. But i think doing this does encourage curl for me!!

    Thanks for sharing!!

    P.S. this made me fall in love with AnGell all over again! :D
    2c/3a
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    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)

  • NottyNotty Registered Users Posts: 1,456
    Ohhhhhhhhh.....something new to try tomorrow - I've got Mop-c to try and the squishing-pumping method..........kind of makes you want to wake up doesn't it????:wave:
    :toothy7:between Botticelli & Corkscrew curly-very thick, coarse hair
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  • SableSable Registered Users Posts: 109
    That's the technique I've been using for the last several months, except I only open and close hands (pump) twice. I get the best clumps this way, and this is when Angell started working for me for the first time. After I do this I use my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-ease-Towel-p-500.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curlease-curlease-towel]Curl-ease towel[/buylink] to accordion the clumps of curls up and press against my scalp to remove excess water and set curls (I can't plop, curls get weird). I get consistent results this way.
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  • butterflyPrincess777butterflyPrincess777 Registered Users Posts: 350
    where do you buy Angell?
    I wanna try this method!! Anything to get clumpier hair!!!
    Was 3b then I did a soft relaxer and I think I'm now a 3a
    pw: curly
  • shellynotshellynot Registered Users Posts: 1,140
    where do you buy Angell?
    I wanna try this method!! Anything to get clumpier hair!!!

    if you go here http://www.devaconcepts.com/ and click "Find a retailer" you can find salons or stores near you that carry the devacurl line
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    "Your head is like a crown on you.
    It is as beautiful as Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is as smooth as purple silk.
    I am captured by your flowing curls."
    Song of Solomon 7:5 (NIRV)

  • Brooke789Brooke789 Registered Users Posts: 415
    I have actually started doing something very similar to my hair while diffusing. As I hold the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-DevaFuser-Kit-p-913.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devafuser]DevaFuser[/buylink] in place (do this in each section) I 'scrunch-n-pump' the hair that is getting diffused. For the majority of the time though I scrunch up all of the hair and hold it. I'm getting much more curls since I started doing this a couple weeks ago, but I do seem to have lost a little volume from it.
  • CurlyEyesCurlyEyes Registered Users Posts: 2,983
    I do what Brooke does when I hair-dry, and I'm eager to try out that pump thing. It's pathertic when I look forward to a new day because I can try out more styling products.
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  • CSteen85CSteen85 Registered Users Posts: 94
    I'm so excited that you all are excited about this!

    I'm telling you... I tried it again this morning and I got great, clumpy curls.

    I don't know how this would work with a cream as I haven't tried it yet, but I might try it with MOP C tonight.

    I know eight pumps sounds a bit excessive, but for some reason, it really distributes the product and sort of "sets" the curl.

    I'm sure if you did it less than eight times, like six or so, you would still get the same result, but I find it makes me spend a little more time on each section.

    Keep in mind, my hair always has conditioner left in it and its still pretty wet when I get to this step.

    Can't wait for everyone else to post their results! If they're good, maybe I"ll patent the "Scrunch-n-Pump"!

    J/k :albino:
    2C/3A-F-iii

    Pics (pw: growout):
    http://public.fotki.com/Csteen85/

    CG since March 2nd, 2008

    Currently Using:
    Co-Wash: DevaCurl No Poo
    Conditioner: DevaCurl One Condition or AOHR not completely rinsed out
    Styling (any of the following): AG Re:coil, MOP C-Curl, La Bella Lots of Curls Gel, Angell, KCKT and/or KCCC, AG Mousse-Gel, PM Conditioning or Extra Body Sculpting Foam
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,060 Administrator
    I too tried this and had wonderful results, my curls were actually a lot more defined and had great clumps!

    Thanks for sharing this tip!!!!
  • NottyNotty Registered Users Posts: 1,456
    You can start a patent - it worked for me as well. Not only that but I have great wearable 2nd day hair.......great tip - makes me a happy camper when something so simple works...................:tongue5:
    :toothy7:between Botticelli & Corkscrew curly-very thick, coarse hair
    http://public.fotki.com/notty6



    When I get to be 'Queen of the World', I will absolish WIND!!!:queen:
  • Brooke789Brooke789 Registered Users Posts: 415
    I forgot to pack my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-DevaFuser-Kit-p-913.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devafuser]DevaFuser[/buylink] this weekend (we were going out of town)...so I had to let my hair air dry. I distributed my gel using this method and then after it air dried a little I did it a little more to encourage the curls. Worked really well, except I definitely have less volume without the diffuser. However, we didn't get back home until 1am this morning (and I had to leave for work by 6:30) so I decided I'd go for second day hair. So far so good -- having had less volume yesterday I think it is going to hold out all day because by the time I scrunched it some more this morning and 'fluffed' it looks like it usually does on day 1 with my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-DevaFuser-Kit-p-913.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devafuser]devafuser[/buylink].
  • LadyNoaLadyNoa Registered Users Posts: 320
    Csteen thanks for sharing this tip with us!! i've tried it too yesterday and got great clumping too! first good hairday in two weeks!! thanks!! although i couldn't get myself to scrunch and pump 8 times per section LOL i did about 4, but still great results!! go get that patent ;):thumright:
    Hairtype: 3A/3B
    Co-Wash: Enliven (Raspberry)
    Conditioning: Nubian Heritage Conditioner, Enliven , KCKT
    Leave In: Shea Butter Leave In, Mixed Chicks, (trying) GDLI
    Styling: L'Oreal Invisi FX gel, Blended Cutie Down and Out Styles,Jessicurl RR & CCSS, CK, (trying) Pink Boots & KY(waiting for CK to arrive)
    Currently: Experimenting.
  • stellaBabystellaBaby Registered Users Posts: 237
    I usually do this to achieve some of my curls.. or least have some of my wavy hair curl a little. It has it's good and bad benefits. Sometimes if i dont do it when my hair is dripping wet i get major frizz. But it's definitely a great idea!
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  • NottyNotty Registered Users Posts: 1,456
    Okay - so you can definately patent this......tried it again today and got two compliments on my hair from people I haven't seen for a long time......they wanted to know why I hadn't worn it curly years ago. Didn't even know that I had curly hair......Patent it!
    :toothy7:between Botticelli & Corkscrew curly-very thick, coarse hair
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    When I get to be 'Queen of the World', I will absolish WIND!!!:queen:
  • CSteen85CSteen85 Registered Users Posts: 94
    LOL, Notty!

    You're too funny :)

    I'm glad this has worked for so many other people and that it wasn't just me!

    I was worried that it would give everyone else horrible hair or something, but so far, so good!

    I'm going to keep trying this with other products and see how they each do.

    Which products have you been trying this with, Notty?
    :occasion9:
    2C/3A-F-iii

    Pics (pw: growout):
    http://public.fotki.com/Csteen85/

    CG since March 2nd, 2008

    Currently Using:
    Co-Wash: DevaCurl No Poo
    Conditioner: DevaCurl One Condition or AOHR not completely rinsed out
    Styling (any of the following): AG Re:coil, MOP C-Curl, La Bella Lots of Curls Gel, Angell, KCKT and/or KCCC, AG Mousse-Gel, PM Conditioning or Extra Body Sculpting Foam
  • CurlyBelCurlyBel Registered Users Posts: 77
    I'm going to try this tomorrow, but I have 1 question, how large are the sections of hair? I have very thick hair, and I'm not exactly sure how much hair I'm supposed to "cup" to scrunch and pump. My MAJOR problem is that my hair gets very poofy when it dries.

    Very excited to try this!:blob7:
    3B, thick, course, and lots of it!
    Currently using:
    Suave Coconut, Kinky Curly Knot Today & KC Curling Custard, Bioterra Gel (HG Combo!) :love1:
    Also used:
    FOTE,DevaCare No Poo, OneC, ArcAngell, SIF, Jessicurl RR, CC,Too Shea, Ouidad, CK, PM Mousse, Biolage gelee.
    :;-)
  • jillipoojillipoo Registered Users Posts: 3,795 Curl Neophyte
    CurlyBel wrote: »
    I'm going to try this tomorrow, but I have 1 question, how large are the sections of hair? I have very thick hair, and I'm not exactly sure how much hair I'm supposed to "cup" to scrunch and pump. My MAJOR problem is that my hair gets very poofy when it dries.

    Very excited to try this!:blob7:

    I think it's pretty much whatever fits comfortably in your hand :compress: Grab a handful and scrunch! And then do it in different sections all over your head.
    3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
    CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
    CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
    CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
    GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


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  • msjananimsjanani Registered Users Posts: 624
    I tried this too and it worked great!!! :blob7:
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    Current products:
    Stylers: HE Tousle Me Softly, Condition 3-in-1 Mousse
    Conditioners: Terax Crema, Mill Creek Botanicals Henna Conditioner
    Cleanser: DevaCurl NoPoo

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  • SunshineGrrlSunshineGrrl Registered Users Posts: 3,823 Curl Neophyte
    Been meaning to post my results, but I've had some crappy product days...bummer.

    Anywho...this is a great system! Had company picture day today and I used the "Scrunch-n-Pump" and there are compliments all around today about the fab hair!

    You rock!

  • NottyNotty Registered Users Posts: 1,456
    CSteen85 wrote: »
    LOL, Notty!

    You're too funny :)

    I'm glad this has worked for so many other people and that it wasn't just me!

    I was worried that it would give everyone else horrible hair or something, but so far, so good!

    I'm going to keep trying this with other products and see how they each do.

    Which products have you been trying this with, Notty?
    :occasion9:
    This won't be a surprise to anyone on this site but I've been using it with CK. I use tons of it and scrunch til it squishes (you do know what I mean) and flip back over and take a few pieces around my face and do the curling around the finger thing and leave it. It is awesome.

    Actually today (3rd day ladies) I had to go to work very early at a school and knew I couldn't wash it and arrive on time so put it up and left some of the curlies hanging............now I'm thinking this looks really cheesy and people are going to think I'm strange.............I couldn't believe it - got more compliments on my curlies and hair being up than every before. WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING IN EVER STRAIGHTENING MY HAIR!!!

    That being said - three people today said "How lucky you are to have curly hair - just wash it and leave it". (Only goes to prove they know squat!!!)
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    http://public.fotki.com/notty6



    When I get to be 'Queen of the World', I will absolish WIND!!!:queen:
  • wild~hairwild~hair Registered Users Posts: 9,890 Curl Neophyte
    Notty wrote: »
    That being said - three people today said "How lucky you are to have curly hair - just wash it and leave it". (Only goes to prove they know squat!!!)


    yelrotflmao.gifThose straighties crack me up!

    I'm definitely going to try this next wash day.

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