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RCW converts- progress?

Pippa8668Pippa8668 Posts: 163Registered Users
I was hoping we could get a thread started where those of us attempting to follow RCW's skincare plan could post about our progress and which products have been working for us. I have been convinced to try it from everyone's positive posts, but I would love to hear that it is working for people, especially those of you that are acne-prone, because I still have a little mental block with using detergent-free cleanser and oil on my face to get rid of zits, you know? My products have been ordered and while I wait for them I would love to hear about how things have been going for the rest of you and maybe help some others who were on the fence like me take the plunge. (Plus, its always nice to hear positive stories about people getting compliments on their skin :wink:)
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  • ajaneajane Posts: 323Registered Users
    I switched to DY Wheat Germ Cleanser over a month ago. It cleared up three zits that I had since before Christmas right away. My skin looked better, I am not sure how to describe it other than the color looked better, clearer and no new zits.

    Well, I had a brain fog moment about a week and a half ago and washed my face one time with Neutrogena Acne Wash and within a day I had a constellation of zits on my chin. It could be a variety of things, a lot of personal stress in my family in the last month, not-so-good job changes, poor diet (french fries and mayonnaise-my ultimate comfort food), and PMS-but I can't help thinking that if I had not washed my face with the neutrogena, I would not have broken out on my chin so bad.

    I have also been using neutrogena anti-acne, anti-wrinkle cream with retinol and salicylic acid because I have a whole tube to use up. Well, this breakout convinced me that RCW is right about quality products-I am going to go ahead and order BHA and some other things to completely get my skin in shape!

    I love the DY Wheat Germ cleanser, it rinses off so easily and I love how it leaves my face feeling smooth and moisturized with no dry patches!
  • alisons79alisons79 Posts: 680Registered Users
    I tried the PSF Castile cleanser first. So-so results. So I asked for more help. I was using Clinique's Mild Clarifying Lotion because it has SA in it. Well, RCW told me to stop using it so I did. I ordered 5% SA from PSF with some Vit. C. Then I ordered a Clarisonic.....

    I'm not going back! My skin looks so much better! My breakouts have subsided and my skin is glowing!

    I have ordered some Retin-A from MedsMex so that I can slowly work my way into using it.

    I have now decided that before I try to use anything new, I'm going to run by RCW and see what she thinks first. :)
    3A/3B
    I love Jessicurl HCC, Jessicurl Too Shea, KCKT, KCCC, CK and HESMU...but it took a LOT of trial error to get to these products that consistently work for ME.
  • YomYom Posts: 1,146Registered Users
    I've been on RCW's routine for about a month now I guess and i'm starting to see progress now. I had very dry and flakey skin with a lot of blemishes (for the last 5-6 months). My skin is less dry and the blemishes are slowly fading. There are still a couple hanging around on my forehead and chin, I guess they just love it out there.

    I use DY wheat germ cleanser, DY salicylic acid and jojoba oil for moisturizer. This is my routine:

    AM:
    cleanse with WGC using face brush
    apply SA (wait 30 minutes)
    moisturize with jojoba oil

    PM:
    cleanse with WGC using face brush
    apply SA

    I don't use a moisturizer at night because i don't feel i need to since my skin isn't as dry as it used to be and i'm too tired to wait 30 minutes before going to bed.
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  • Pippa8668Pippa8668 Posts: 163Registered Users
    thanks for the responses :) it's encouraging to see success stories.

    Yomini, do you like the face brush? Those of you who use PSF- do you just apply the cleanser with your fingers? I am way too broke to spring for a clarisonic, but maybe I should get a cheaper brush of some kind?
    3b-ish i think
    off and on CG-er since 2004
    Products: recently wiped the slate clean and am starting over on the search for HG products on a poor grad student budget
  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    my skin is a LOT better. in fact i have no active pimples now and it's only been 2-3 weeks. i still have marks from previous acne but no new pimples. i wouldn't say my skin is smooth but it's also not bumpy...i'm sticking with it!! i also use the olay microdermabrasion kit i already had and a peel i already had. once i run out of the olay kit i'm going to buy some crystals rcw mentioned to combine with the psf cleanser. i also use a clarisonic. i'm happy!!!
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    i have had great results too. very happy that i spent the money on the products.

    blackheads and clogged pores are slowing disappearing on my nose. overall, my skin is softer and smoother with a nice glow. i still have some work to do on my chin area, and hopefully, within the next 2 to 3 months, i will see significant improvement in that area.

    if you are interested, there is also a results thread on the Over 40 forum.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users
    I am loving the routine recommended by RCW. I've been on it for about a month. I used to be really oily and breakout often but my skin is now soft, glowing, smooth, almost poreless, and no major breakouts!

    I still have to wait to see what that TOM will bring. I usually get a spot or two the week before. But since that TOM occurs only 4 times a year thanks to my BC, my skin is clearer for longer periods of time. :smile:

    I'm using PSF's castile cleaner, BHA, and Vitamin C serum. I did try the WGC and like it just as much as the PSF. Like Yomini, I'm using a facial brush but it's because I can't reconcile the $195 price tag for the clarisonic. I think using a facial brush has made a big difference. I used to just use my hands but I think the brush gently exfoliates every time I cleanse allowing products to penetrate better.

    The brush I used is by Nature's Therapeutics. It costs just $2.99 at Ulta and is not rough at all.
  • VanedaVaneda Posts: 402Registered Users
    I have been following RCW's recommendations for a little over a month and I am EXTREMELY pleased with the results.

    I never had a true acne problem, but have always stuggled with oil and blackheads. In the past month my skin has improved so much - I don't feel like I need to recheck, blot, and repowder my face a million times throughout the day! The blackheads are slowly but surely disappearing. My makeup goes on so smoothly now.

    Before trying these products I feel like I had tried everything out there (drugstore and department store brands), and truly felt like the results I had been getting were the best that could be expected. Now I know better :)!
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  • waterlily716waterlily716 Posts: 781Registered Users
    What does RCW stand for? TIA (:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    whimaway wrote: »
    What does RCW stand for? TIA (:


    That's my nickname...short for RedCatWaves.
  • waterlily716waterlily716 Posts: 781Registered Users
    lol Thanks! I was just reading posts and wondering, what is RCW?!
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    CG method since 2006 @:-)
    CO wash: suave naturals coconut
    rinse out CO: GVP conditioning balm
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  • cosmicflycosmicfly Posts: 1,814Registered Users
    My skin is prone to dryness and while I have not had lots of skin issues in the past, I am less happy with the way it looks as I get older (I'm 33). Yesterday, my PSF samples arived in the mail (along with a full size of HA). This morning I washed my face with PSF Castile. Since I don't have a facial brush, I used an infant hairbrush I have lying around. I applied some eye stuff (PSF Cranberry Lift something..) in hopes that I can be consistent and maybe it will minimize the circles under my eyes. I then moisturized with jojoba oil and HA. I didn't expect to see a difference, and there really isn't one in the areas I have more trouble (mainly dark circles under my eyes), but overall I noticed that my skin seems brighter. Actually, my son asked me if I have new makeup, and I'm not wearing any yet :). I think the exfoliation really made a difference in the overall appearance of my skin, and I am liking the way my skin feels moisturized (it is typically dry and has been flaky in areas lately) but not greasy. I'm pretty excited about this, I hope it continues to improve.
  • nina514nina514 Posts: 118Registered Users
    cosmicfly wrote: »
    Actually, my son asked me if I have new makeup, and I'm not wearing any yet :).


    That's awesome!!! It's my experience that son's and brothers are always honest beyond a fault.

    For my brother to tell me I look good is the greatest compliment, cause he's also quick to let me know (oh so gently, "maybe you might want to try that lotion that has a little concealer make up in it") when I'm looking anything less than perfect.

    It will be a couple months, but I can't wait to let him see my RCW routine face :icescream:
    3c still searching for my HG...:book:
  • YomYom Posts: 1,146Registered Users
    Pippa8668 wrote: »
    thanks for the responses :) it's encouraging to see success stories.

    Yomini, do you like the face brush? Those of you who use PSF- do you just apply the cleanser with your fingers? I am way too broke to spring for a clarisonic, but maybe I should get a cheaper brush of some kind?

    I do like it! I bought a $2,- facial brush at my local drugstore. My skin keeps getting better everyday but i can't say it is only because the new routine, i quit taking biotin too which was the cause of my pimples.
    I had very dry/flaky skin with pimples on my forehead and chin. The pimples are almost gone now, but I still have flakies around my nose.
    Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Modified CG since 08/10/2007
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2FCurly-Y%2F" class="Popup (updated september 6)
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  • cosmicflycosmicfly Posts: 1,814Registered Users
    nina514 wrote: »
    cosmicfly wrote: »
    Actually, my son asked me if I have new makeup, and I'm not wearing any yet :).


    That's awesome!!! It's my experience that son's and brothers are always honest beyond a fault.

    Isn't that the truth. This is the same child who asked me if the baby was in my butt because it was growing like my belly :tongue5:.
  • VTmomVTmom Posts: 2,486Registered Users
    cosmicfly wrote: »
    Isn't that the truth. This is the same child who asked me if the baby was in my butt because it was growing like my belly :tongue5:.

    ya gotta love 'em!! :toothy7:
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    Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
    Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
    Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
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  • Pippa8668Pippa8668 Posts: 163Registered Users
    so for the past 2 days i've been using the psf castille cleanser, 5% SA, and HA w/jojoba for moisture at night. i don't see any huge difference yet, i wasn't expecting to, but my skin does seem a little bit red and still oily. i was going to stop moisturizing but the redness is making me think my skin is dry, even though it is still oily? what should I be looking out for? I am not getting more new zits than usual (a few whiteheads have popped up, but I am not worried about that). How can I tell if my skin is dry or not- I have never thought about the possibility that it could be dry and/or sensitive before.
    3b-ish i think
    off and on CG-er since 2004
    Products: recently wiped the slate clean and am starting over on the search for HG products on a poor grad student budget
  • alisons79alisons79 Posts: 680Registered Users
    Is the 5% SA too strong for you? Have you used it before, started with the 2%?
    3A/3B
    I love Jessicurl HCC, Jessicurl Too Shea, KCKT, KCCC, CK and HESMU...but it took a LOT of trial error to get to these products that consistently work for ME.
  • Pippa8668Pippa8668 Posts: 163Registered Users
    I have not used the 2% from PSF. I have used all sorts of drugstore SA products (which I know from RCW aren't really acids anymore) but I have also tried any sort of maximum strength anything that was over the counter, all manner of face washes, creams, toners, and I have never experienced irritation of any kind, very rarely have I had dryness, and except for the fact that I have been breaking out for the past year worst than ever before, my face hasn't hurt and my skin has been a little oily but never red. It doesn't hurt now, and it only looks slightly red. maybe I should have gone with the 2% but I guess I wasn't that concerned beforehand since I've never had trouble before. I got a sample size so I am going to have to order a full size amount soon and I am hoping to figure out before then if I should go down in strength. Maybe my skin will get used to it in another couple of days?
    3b-ish i think
    off and on CG-er since 2004
    Products: recently wiped the slate clean and am starting over on the search for HG products on a poor grad student budget
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    pippa,
    are you using the 5% once or twice a day? if you using twice a day, cut back to once a day and see what happens. also, make sure you aren't using too much of the cleanser as it can be drying to some people.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • alisons79alisons79 Posts: 680Registered Users
    I don't know how long it would take your skin to get used to it, RCW would probably know better. I do recall her saying that BHA in most forms aren't enough to do anything, get washed off before they get a chance to do anything or aren't the right pH. So I'm guessing that even though we have used stuff with it in the past, we really weren't getting any benefit from it...and our skin probably didn't have the opportunity to react to it.
    3A/3B
    I love Jessicurl HCC, Jessicurl Too Shea, KCKT, KCCC, CK and HESMU...but it took a LOT of trial error to get to these products that consistently work for ME.
  • alisons79alisons79 Posts: 680Registered Users
    Windflower wrote: »
    pippa,
    are you using the 5% once or twice a day? if you using twice a day, cut back to once a day and see what happens. also, make sure you aren't using too much of the cleanser as it can be drying to some people.

    Yeah I can vouch for using too much of the cleanser. Just a very little bit is enough. :)
    3A/3B
    I love Jessicurl HCC, Jessicurl Too Shea, KCKT, KCCC, CK and HESMU...but it took a LOT of trial error to get to these products that consistently work for ME.
  • LilyWavesLilyWaves Posts: 224Registered Users
    My skin is already looking incredibly better after a few weeks of RCW's routine. I'm washing twice daily with PSF Castile, and in the mornings I apply 2% BHA followed by the vit. c serum 30 minutes later, then jojoba mixed with H.A. serum 10 minutes after that. At night after cleansing I apply more BHA followed by Benzaclin with a bit of H.A. added to reduce dryness. I have a few small blemishes remaining, but it is a vast improvement from where I was a month ago. Thanks RCW!:mrgreen:
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  • SleighSleigh Posts: 1,226Registered Users
    i dont recommend the rose cleaner from dy - i swear it made me break out more...(rcw didnt really recommend this tho.)
    2c hair. maybe a little porous? my hair likes suave, vo5 and the big tease. going to be trying more lush soon. not sure how i feel about dr bronners.

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  • Agent ScarlettAgent Scarlett Posts: 275Registered Users
    I tried the castile cleanser for the first time today. It left my skin soft but a little tight but I'm sure it'll get better. I used the 5% SA and I'm thinking it may be too strong. It stung and my face got red. I used to use the Paula's Choice in the same strength but it never stung. I noticed though that the PSF one has alcohol in it. It thought that was a no-no :scratch:. Oh well.

    Anyway, I'm giving all of this a chance. I need to! I made the stupid mistake of doing the OCM on my face and it made me break out big time. I even got a cyst! I hope this stuff makes my clear skin come back.

    eta: Ugh, I just realized that the Paula's Choice SA I had been using was 2%. Dang...I hope the 5% won't make my face worse. :(
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Agent Scarlett,

    The alcohol in the SA is there for a reason...RCW can explain it better. To me PC SAs weren't very active/strong. The PSF 2% seems to be stronger than PC's 2% SA. Hopefully, your skin will be OK.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Sleigh wrote: »
    i dont recommend the rose cleaner from dy - i swear it made me break out more...(rcw didnt really recommend this tho.)


    No, I didn't. The Rose Hip Seed Cleanser is meh...it's skin-barrier friendly, but it breaks some people out.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I tried the castile cleanser for the first time today. It left my skin soft but a little tight but I'm sure it'll get better. I used the 5% SA and I'm thinking it may be too strong. It stung and my face got red. I used to use the Paula's Choice in the same strength but it never stung. I noticed though that the PSF one has alcohol in it. It thought that was a no-no :scratch:. Oh well.

    Anyway, I'm giving all of this a chance. I need to! I made the stupid mistake of doing the OCM on my face and it made me break out big time. I even got a cyst! I hope this stuff makes my clear skin come back.

    eta: Ugh, I just realized that the Paula's Choice SA I had been using was 2%. Dang...I hope the 5% won't make my face worse. :(


    OCM sucks for acne-prone people. It'll clog you up really well. We need to wash natural oils off our faces each day, not just rub more oil into it.

    The PSF and DY BHA's have a lower pH than Paula's Choice, and therefore there is more Free Acid Value (FAV), so it's not really a surprise that you're not used to using a real acid and may experience some irritation. The alcohol in both PSF and DY is SD40 alcohol, which you need for the acid to penetrate the skin, but it's not really drying because it evaporates fairly quickly. It's nothing like isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. If it's too strong for you, you can just back off to every-other-day for now and build up as you tolerate it, or order the 2% instead and save the 5% for later on, or for spot treatment.
  • JerseyCurlJerseyCurl Posts: 945Registered Users
    I tried the castile cleanser for the first time today. It left my skin soft but a little tight but I'm sure it'll get better. I used the 5% SA and I'm thinking it may be too strong. It stung and my face got red. I used to use the Paula's Choice in the same strength but it never stung. I noticed though that the PSF one has alcohol in it. It thought that was a no-no :scratch:. Oh well.

    Anyway, I'm giving all of this a chance. I need to! I made the stupid mistake of doing the OCM on my face and it made me break out big time. I even got a cyst! I hope this stuff makes my clear skin come back.

    eta: Ugh, I just realized that the Paula's Choice SA I had been using was 2%. Dang...I hope the 5% won't make my face worse. :(


    OCM sucks for acne-prone people. It'll clog you up really well. We need to wash natural oils off our faces each day, not just rub more oil into it.

    The PSF and DY BHA's have a lower pH than Paula's Choice, and therefore there is more Free Acid Value (FAV), so it's not really a surprise that you're not used to using a real acid and may experience some irritation. The alcohol in both PSF and DY is SD40 alcohol, which you need for the acid to penetrate the skin, but it's not really drying because it evaporates fairly quickly. It's nothing like isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. If it's too strong for you, you can just back off to every-other-day for now and build up as you tolerate it, or order the 2% instead and save the 5% for later on, or for spot treatment.

    That is interesting because I have wondered about PC SA myself. I have been using it on and off for a good 7-8 years and sometimes it keeps me clear and sometimes I don't feel like it is doing anything.

    RCW, what is the ph for PSF and DY's SA and which one would you recommend for someone who has only used PC's SA? I am currently using PC SA twice a day but I don't really feel like I am getting any kind of reaction. I do have sensitive, acne prone skin. Although, my skin is super oily, it gets irritated very easily and when it does it flakes and peels like crazy. :sad8:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    That is interesting because I have wondered about PC SA myself. I have been using it on and off for a good 7-8 years and sometimes it keeps me clear and sometimes I don't feel like it is doing anything.

    RCW, what is the ph for PSF and DY's SA and which one would you recommend for someone who has only used PC's SA? I am currently using PC SA twice a day but I don't really feel like I am getting any kind of reaction. I do have sensitive, acne prone skin. Although, my skin is super oily, it gets irritated very easily and when it does it flakes and peels like crazy. :sad8:


    PC's SA has a pH of 3.5 I believe. It's doing a little something, but not as much as DY's or PSF's SA's, which both have a pH of 1.9. Since you're sensitive, you should always start low and move up, so I would suggest you start with 2% and increase to 5% only if you need it. They're both great products (DY and PSF), so you can't go wrong with either brand.
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