Garden of Wisdom castile cleansers

helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
I stumbled across this company while on the EDS forums and their castile cleanser looks somewhat similar to the Diana Yvonne/PSF ones.
100% Castille Soap Distilled Water; Seaweed Extract; Seabuckthorn Berry Oil CP; Citric Acid; Orange Essential Oil; Optiphen [paraben/formaldehyde free]
or
GoW Castor/Castille Cleanser *white* / 1 oz
100% Castille Soap; Seaweed Extract; Castor Oil; Citric Acid
and they seem to be cheaper than both PSF and DY. I was tempted to buy these but I'm not sure if the added oils will react with my skin. Has anyone tried these cleansers or used this product line?

Their SA looks tempting too!
2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

Location: SoCal
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    GOW is a good company. The owner, Marki, makes nice quality products. Her "actives" aren't as active as what PSF and DY sells though, so her AHA's and BHA's have a higher pH than I would like. But those 2 cleansers are great. They are "RCW Approved". :) The oils in them are saponified, meaning they are turned into soap (castile soap), so they no longer have the properties of oil, and then she lowers the pH with citric acid so they are skin-barrier friendly. Nice products.
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    GOW is a good company. The owner, Marki, makes nice quality products. Her "actives" aren't as active as what PSF and DY sells though, so her AHA's and BHA's have a higher pH than I would like. But those 2 cleansers are great. They are "RCW Approved". :) The oils in them are saponified, meaning they are turned into soap (castile soap), so they no longer have the properties of oil, and then she lowers the pH with citric acid so they are skin-barrier friendly. Nice products.

    That seals the deal for me right there! :cheers: I also saw some HA serums and a C serum that looked quite interesting and with the prices the way they are, I might be making another purchase very soon!! :money:
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    helloitsio wrote: »

    Actually, these are more expensive ounce for ounce than the PSF and DY.

    If you were to buy 8 of the orange it would cost $25.60

    PSF - 8oz is $20

    DY - 8oz is $24

    although, the GoW cleansers are cheaper than buying samples of DY and PSF cleansers.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Windflower wrote: »
    helloitsio wrote: »

    Actually, these are more expensive ounce for ounce than the PSF and DY.

    If you were to buy 8 of the orange it would cost $25.60

    PSF - 8oz is $20

    DY - 8oz is $24

    although, the GoW cleansers are cheaper than buying samples of DY and PSF cleansers.

    Actually, I could just buy two 4 oz bottles of the orange cleanser for $9.80 each and 16 oz of the white castile is $26.40
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    they come in four ounces? :thumbright:

    i only saw the 1 ounce that you posted.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Windflower wrote: »
    they come in four ounces? :thumbright:

    i only saw the 1 ounce that you posted.

    Yup! http://www.gardenofwisdom.shoppingcartsplus.com/cleansers.html
    I'm so excited for my orders!
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    let us know how you like them and how they compare to PSF and DY...you may convert some people. :wink:
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Windflower wrote: »
    let us know how you like them and how they compare to PSF and DY...you may convert some people. :wink:

    Sure thing!
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • VanedaVaneda Posts: 402Registered Users
    I haven't tried GOW's cleansers but I did order and receive some emu oil from them last week.

    2 oz was around $8.00. I have a sample of DY's ultra emu and I can tell absolutely no difference between the two. GOW's is white, creamy, and has no odor.

    I may try out some of their other products eventually.
    2/b-2/c - I shampoo daily with non-sulfate shampoos - right now am *loving* L'Oreal Everpure shampoo and conditioner
    For styling: homemade flax seed gel, Curl Keeper, and/or KCCC
    Current favorite product: *KCCC*!!

  • nina514nina514 Posts: 118Registered Users
    GoW Castille Mild N' Clean Cleanser *Orange* / 1 oz

    100% Castille Soap Distilled Water; Seaweed Extract; Seabuckthorn Berry Oil CP; Citric Acid; Orange Essential Oil; Optiphen [paraben/formaldehyde free]

    or

    GoW Castor/Castille Cleanser *white* / 1 oz
    100% Castille Soap; Seaweed Extract; Castor Oil; Citric Acid


    I read that seaweed extract is very comodegenic. Is this not a concern because it is saponified too???

    Are these soaps for the body?
    3c still searching for my HG...:book:
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    nina514 wrote: »
    GoW Castille Mild N' Clean Cleanser *Orange* / 1 oz

    100% Castille Soap Distilled Water; Seaweed Extract; Seabuckthorn Berry Oil CP; Citric Acid; Orange Essential Oil; Optiphen [paraben/formaldehyde free]

    or

    GoW Castor/Castille Cleanser *white* / 1 oz
    100% Castille Soap; Seaweed Extract; Castor Oil; Citric Acid

    I read that seaweed extract is very comodegenic. Is this not a concern because it is saponified too???

    Are these soaps for the body?

    They're facial cleansers. I'm still waiting to receive my order so I can update.
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Does anyone know if GoW accepts Paypal? I could not find this information on the site.

    Thanks!
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Windflower wrote: »
    Does anyone know if GoW accepts Paypal? I could not find this information on the site.

    Thanks!


    Yes, they do.
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    GoW Update:

    So far I've received a couple cleansers, some hydrosols, hydrating mists, oils, HAs, some BHAs, and mandelic acid. Yeah, I went a bit nuts with the products. I'm also a skincare PJ. :tongue5:

    I'm currently using the GoW 2% BHA (pH 1.9) and it doesn't seem that different from the PSF one. It does have a bit of a scent though because they use organic grape alcohol instead of the SD 40 used in the PSF - reminds me of vodka. It's also a pretty good price for 2 oz.

    What I LOVE so far is the mandelic acid. I'm a faithful glycolic acid user but the mandelic just blew me away.

    I can't report on the quality of the castile cleansers since something happened with that order. Namely, I still haven't received it and it's almost been a month since I ordered!!! :cry: Luckily, I've been keeping in touch with Markey and Jen over there and they're checking to see what happened. All my subsequent orders have gone smoothly, it's just my luck that my biggest order ($100+) with the castile cleansers I'm dying to try is delayed.
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    helloitsio wrote: »
    What I LOVE so far is the mandelic acid. I'm a faithful glycolic acid user but the mandelic just blew me away.

    Helloitsio,

    Can you give a more detailed review of the mandelic acid?

    How long have you been using? Does it have a smell? Does the seaweed bother you? Did you buy alcohol free? How does it feel on your skin? Does it sting? What percentage did you buy?

    Thanks!
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Windflower wrote: »
    helloitsio wrote: »
    What I LOVE so far is the mandelic acid. I'm a faithful glycolic acid user but the mandelic just blew me away.

    Helloitsio,

    Can you give a more detailed review of the mandelic acid?

    How long have you been using? Does it have a smell? Does the seaweed bother you? Did you buy alcohol free? How does it feel on your skin? Does it sting? What percentage did you buy?

    Thanks!

    I've been using it for about 3 weeks now just about every other day. I'm currently using the 10% alcohol free version (still on the sample vial, too!) There was a bit of a scent when I first tried it - kinda sweet/ sugary. Initially, it felt a bit sticky going on but that went away pretty fast. Now, it doesn't feel sticky at all to me. The first night I tried it, I was surprised because it actually did sting a bit. Since glycolic is supposed to be the mother of all acids, I was surprised. In terms of consistency, it's somewhat thicker than the BHA liquids but not like a HA serum. I've heard that seaweed is supposed to be comedogenic but my skin has been quite good to me. Any spots that would come up are small and go away within a day or two. And they're usually in my chin area which is prone to flareups because I'm bad and continuously rest my chin on my hands. :angry7:

    I think this has really made a difference with my skin in conjunction with RCW's routine. My pregnant sister actually said my skin was glowing! I've been using glycolic acid for over a year and half and like I said, I was completely blown over by mandelic. This is something I will definitely repurchase!
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    thanks for the review...i am going to add it to my wish list.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • helloitsiohelloitsio Posts: 1,369Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I just started using the GoW orange castile cleanser yesterday. It's scent is faintly reminiscent of DY's wheat germ cleanser. It doesn't foam whatsoever but it still feels nice. I'll provide a more thorough review after a week.

    On another note, I also have samples of GoW's other cleansers: Jen's green tea/shea and majik azulene. I was using the green tea for about 2 1/2 weeks before opening the oj castile and I have to say that I was really impressed. It's marketed for dry skin but it didn't make me feel oily or too moisturized. It suds up quite well and made my skin feel really soft afterwards. It takes makeup off easily and I think it does a better job of removing my waterproof mascara than the PSF or DY cleansers. The scent is a little...odd but it's not enough to make me not want to use it again. GoW has such a great community (on their forum) and the owner, Markey, is really nice and actually responds to emails. GoW just might wean me away from the more expensive lines like PSF and DY. :bom:
    2 b/c :: slight protein sensitivity :: med/coarse texture :: normal porosity

    Location: SoCal
    http://public.fotki.com/Helloitsio/
    http://skinandhairjunkie.wordpress.com/
  • Naveed00Naveed00 Posts: 193Registered Users
    Is anyone who tried these still using them? I was interested in trying one of these cleansers and am hoping they have fared well with everyone else.
  • alacurlalacurl Posts: 1,199Registered Users Curl Novice
    Naveed, I like the GoW orange castile cleanser. I'm not using it right now because I have a large size of another cleanser I'm working on. But I intend to order more of the GoW at some point.

    BTW, I love the GoW oil cleanser. I use it as pre-cleanser, then follow up with a "traditional" cleanser to remove any traces of the oil. The oil has cleaned out my pores -- I'm really surprised by how well it works.
    shoulder-length 3a/b, depending on weather and products (or lack of products!)
  • Naveed00Naveed00 Posts: 193Registered Users
    Cool, thanks. :)

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