Apple Cider Vinegar Rinse

Mo_Gemini22Mo_Gemini22 Posts: 485Registered Users
How often should you do this to your hair and what are the benefits?

Thanks!
Last relaxer - July 07
BC - 8/2/08
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Products in rotation (too many!):
Shampoo - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Giovanni Tea Tree
Condish - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Trader Joe Nourish Spa
Leave in - Sheamoisture Curl Milk, KCNT, Giovanni Direct
Deep Treatment - Apoghee Two Step Protein Treatment, Giovanni Nutrafix
Moisturizers - Carefree Curl Gold Spray
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  • preciousjewel76preciousjewel76 Posts: 679Registered Users Curl Novice
    ACV rinses help to remove some types of build-up from the hair and close the hair cuticle. Think of your hair as being made up of rows of shingles, like you'd see on a roof. These hair shingles, or cuticles, can be in a "open" position (depending on various things), which makes the hair strand feel rough to the touch and look dull. Being that hair has a naturally low (slightly acidic) pH, things like vinegar rinses can help close the hair cuticle and lock in moisture and protein. Vinegar rinses can also help reduce tangles.

    The pic on the left below shows hair with cuticles open; the pic on the right shows hair with the cuticles closed.
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    As for how often to do this, I think once a week would be sufficient. You don't want too much of a good thing, though - over-acidifying the hair can lead to damage.

    I hope that helps!
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  • Mo_Gemini22Mo_Gemini22 Posts: 485Registered Users
    Thanks! Do you have a receipe?
    Last relaxer - July 07
    BC - 8/2/08
    4B headband-holic
    Products in rotation (too many!):
    Shampoo - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Giovanni Tea Tree
    Condish - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Trader Joe Nourish Spa
    Leave in - Sheamoisture Curl Milk, KCNT, Giovanni Direct
    Deep Treatment - Apoghee Two Step Protein Treatment, Giovanni Nutrafix
    Moisturizers - Carefree Curl Gold Spray
    Stylers - Sheamoisture Curl Smoothie
  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    PreciousJewel, thank you so much! I had no idea. When I get home tonight I'm going to try it.

    Here is a recipe I found on Motowngirl.com

    Apple Cider Vinegar Mix
    1-2 tbs apple cider vinegar
    2 cups room temperature distilled water
    A couple drops sage oil (optional)

    Mix items together and use as a final rinse after shampooing and conditioning or conditioner washing
    - Maria

    Big Chop: 9/23/07
    Relaxer free for almost 5 years!

  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'd forgotten to do one of these for a while and did one last week. I forgot what a difference it makes.

    I use 50% water/50% vinegar, but some people use far less vinegar, like just a few tablespoons. You'll have to experiment.

    I mix up a large yogurt container full and pour it over my hair and leave it for 30 seconds or so before rinsing very thoroughly. Apply after cleansing, before conditioning.
  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    wild~hair, I read your post incorrectly and thought you said you pour yogurt on your head LOL I was like eww apv and yogurt must be funky

    I remember yrs back when I used to get relaxers they would usually put vinegar with water in my hair. It would BURN like crazy! I never asked why they put it in my hair, just figured they knew what they were doing. Yeah right!

    I'm going to try to try the apple cider vinegar tonight :occasion9:
    - Maria

    Big Chop: 9/23/07
    Relaxer free for almost 5 years!

  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    mariag002 wrote: »
    wild~hair, I read your post incorrectly and thought you said you pour yogurt on your head LOL I was like eww apv and yogurt must be funky

    Yeah, that would be nasty. It would probably get all curdled and stuff. :thumbdown:
    mariag002 wrote: »
    Mix items together and use as a final rinse after shampooing and conditioning or conditioner washing

    I've always done it between washing and conditioning, but when I saw this I thought I'd give it a go. I really like the results. Better curls today. Thanks for the tip!
  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I did this last night and I was amazed at how my hair came out. For some reason the frizz in the front is gone. I don't know if its the moisturizing lotion or the apple cider vinegar, but hey I'm not going to question it.

    preciousjewel76 thanks for the tip!
    - Maria

    Big Chop: 9/23/07
    Relaxer free for almost 5 years!

  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    My mom used to do an ACV rinse after she washed my hair when I was little. My hair was very shiny. I will have to go back to this.
  • preciousjewel76preciousjewel76 Posts: 679Registered Users Curl Novice
    mariag002 wrote: »
    I did this last night and I was amazed at how my hair came out. For some reason the frizz in the front is gone. I don't know if its the moisturizing lotion or the apple cider vinegar, but hey I'm not going to question it.

    preciousjewel76 thanks for the tip!


    No prob! Glad you like it!:toothy7:
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  • uk-frouk-fro Posts: 9Registered Users
    I haven't done this in a while, need to get this back into my regime, will do it on my friday night hair pampering time! :profileright:

    Thanks for the tips everyone.
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  • ItsiRCItsiRC Posts: 335Registered Users
    my hair is super soft after doing an acv rinse!!
    I'm going to Mexico until this bills business blows over.

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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I do it when I remember to (not often) but it does make the hair feel good and lowers the pH (good thing). 1 or 2 tbs in 2 cups of water. Apple cider vinegar
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  • monkeycurlmonkeycurl Posts: 35Registered Users
    My hair is in need of some shine and I thought I would give this a go.
    I have read all the information on mixing but I am not sure if this should be used as a final rinse, or should you rinse after using this?
    By the way doesn't this smell!!!
    UK Curly
  • Curly_DivaCurly_Diva Posts: 151Registered Users
    I...
    shampoo (seldom do)
    acv rinse
    DT
    cowash
    leave in
    styling products.
    BC Feb 2008
    3c, 4a. HE, castor and jojoba oil, acv rinse
  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Being that hair has a naturally low (slightly acidic) pH, things like vinegar rinses can help close the hair cuticle and lock in moisture and protein.

    Thanks for that explanation! But now I'm wondering: if this is the case, wouldn't conditioning after the ACV rinse, as many suggest, be of limited use since the cuticle is closed at that point? And would rinsing with water after the ACV rinse undo the whole thing, anyway?

    What have people found? I've tried ACV rinses twice, and liked my hair both days, although I wasn't sure I saw a huge difference. But I water-rinsed, conditioned and rinsed again after the ACV rinse.

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  • Curly_DivaCurly_Diva Posts: 151Registered Users
    Being that hair has a naturally low (slightly acidic) pH, things like vinegar rinses can help close the hair cuticle and lock in moisture and protein.

    Thanks for that explanation! But now I'm wondering: if this is the case, wouldn't conditioning after the ACV rinse, as many suggest, be of limited use since the cuticle is closed at that point? And would rinsing with water after the ACV rinse undo the whole thing, anyway?

    What have people found? I've tried ACV rinses twice, and liked my hair both days, although I wasn't sure I saw a huge difference. But I water-rinsed, conditioned and rinsed again after the ACV rinse.

    I could be doing it in the wrong order. Not sure.
    BC Feb 2008
    3c, 4a. HE, castor and jojoba oil, acv rinse
  • QuirkyYoginiQuirkyYogini Posts: 569Registered Users
    Thanks for that explanation! But now I'm wondering: if this is the case, wouldn't conditioning after the ACV rinse, as many suggest, be of limited use since the cuticle is closed at that point? And would rinsing with water after the ACV rinse undo the whole thing, anyway?

    What have people found? I've tried ACV rinses twice, and liked my hair both days, although I wasn't sure I saw a huge difference. But I water-rinsed, conditioned and rinsed again after the ACV rinse.

    I haven't tried it yet, but now I will! I agree with you though. It seems like you should do the ACV rinse after your conditioner and probably not run water through your hair after you do the rinse.
    I have 3c hair that I haven't straightened in over 5 years. It's just past shoulder length when dry, and almost waist length when pulled straight.

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  • onethousandcurlsonethousandcurls Posts: 1,118Registered Users
    Can you do a vinegar rinse with regular white vinegar? It smells horrible, but does it work the same way?
    3b/c, CG 9/18/08
    Last process: 04/05/08 Big Chop: 08/08/09
    Currently: Herbal Essences Hello Hydration, Herbal Essences Set Me Up gel (summer only), Boots Curl Creme (winter only)
  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Yes, I think so. Botticelli Babe uses regular white vinegar because she can't stand the smell of ACV... she says it works like a charm as well :)
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    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
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  • Sunyata B. Sunyata B. Posts: 105Registered Users
    When I do my ACV rinse I do it the same way Curly_Diva does. I do it about every other week, and if I don't use shampoo I use cond. and baking soda. You would think that since the ACV before the cond. is backwards, but the cond. I use after the ACV is almost all natural, so I don't have to worry about buildup. But I can really tell the difference, my products are absorbed in my hair better and seems much easier to work with.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    My 4-year-old has a LOT of hair. I'm unsure if 2 cups of the rinse would be enough to rinse her. The only reason it'd be enough for me is because I have my hair cut short--if it were long, 2 cups would be nowhere near enough. Would I just grab as if making her hair into a ponytail and rinse the 'ponytail' part, or does the rinse need to be on the roots as well?
  • curlymaybecurlymaybe Posts: 354Registered Users
    My 4-year-old has a LOT of hair. I'm unsure if 2 cups of the rinse would be enough to rinse her. The only reason it'd be enough for me is because I have my hair cut short--if it were long, 2 cups would be nowhere near enough. Would I just grab as if making her hair into a ponytail and rinse the 'ponytail' part, or does the rinse need to be on the roots as well?
    If you want to make more you can. My hair is armpit length, fairly thick and I used 2 cups of rinse today. The trick is to tilt your head back and pour into the roots slowly, and let the rinse run down the length of the hair. I part my hair down the middle and pour half of the rinse on one side, then the other half on the other.

    I've tried ACV rinses both before conditioning and as a final rinse, and I prefer to use it before my conditioner. Most of the time when I use it as a final rinse my hair feels really dry and straw-like (plus the smell is:pukel:). I say most of the time because today I used it as a final rinse and my hair feels great! Here's what I did:
    I made a tea using a little over a cup of water and some dried rosemary and oatstraw. I strained the tea and added a little honey and ACV to it. Then I whisked in a squirt of Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose. (The conditioner and the herbs mask the smell of the ACV quite nicely, btw.) Then I added a little bit more water. The verdict: my curls are really well-defined and they are MOIST! Hallelujah! I will have to try this again.
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  • MissCurlyCueMissCurlyCue Posts: 145Registered Users
    How often should you do this to your hair and what are the benefits?

    Thanks!

    Mo_Gemini, I don't lose as much hair in the detangling process with this method. I sponge apply it to my hair and scalp using the sink (as per the Crown and Glory method). I have to say that it gives me really amazing results and my hair feels nice and clean without feeling stripped.

    I apply one part ACV and three parts water. I used to do half and half, but I have a feeling that might be too acidic. :) I hope that helps.
    Last Relaxer: October 2007
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  • smo6767smo6767 Posts: 409Registered Users
    If you just used the ACV and water without any herbs or essential oils, would your hair smell? And would it smell any less if you did it before the conditioner?
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  • HappyNappyEHappyNappyE Posts: 108Registered Users
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  • pulchri2dinouspulchri2dinous Posts: 1,014Registered Users
    After I take out my weave I'd like to do a super clarifying wash to make sure all the build-up is gone. I'd also like to do a super conditioning type thing.

    So could I...

    Baking Soda wash
    ACV rinse
    Deep Condition
    Leave-in Conditioner

    in that order? I'm not a fan of deep conditioning before clarifying which is why I'd Baking soda wash first no matter what. Would it make sense to do both BS and ACV? The website says to condition after the ACV rinse, but should I deep condition, acv, leave-in condition?
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  • curlymaybecurlymaybe Posts: 354Registered Users
    After I take out my weave I'd like to do a super clarifying wash to make sure all the build-up is gone. I'd also like to do a super conditioning type thing.

    So could I...

    Baking Soda wash
    ACV rinse
    Deep Condition
    Leave-in Conditioner
    Sounds good, and I would definitely ACV anytime you use baking soda.
    Hair loves: aloe vera juice, cocoa butter, camellia oil

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  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    curlymaybe wrote: »
    After I take out my weave I'd like to do a super clarifying wash to make sure all the build-up is gone. I'd also like to do a super conditioning type thing.

    So could I...

    Baking Soda wash
    ACV rinse
    Deep Condition
    Leave-in Conditioner
    Sounds good, and I would definitely ACV anytime you use baking soda.
    This scares me. All I can think of is how I use vinegar and baking soda to keep my drains clear (in my home). I can't imagine having that reaction on my head. :confused1:
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  • curlymaybecurlymaybe Posts: 354Registered Users
    hippychic wrote: »
    curlymaybe wrote: »
    After I take out my weave I'd like to do a super clarifying wash to make sure all the build-up is gone. I'd also like to do a super conditioning type thing.

    So could I...

    Baking Soda wash
    ACV rinse
    Deep Condition
    Leave-in Conditioner
    Sounds good, and I would definitely ACV anytime you use baking soda.
    This scares me. All I can think of is how I use vinegar and baking soda to keep my drains clear (in my home). I can't imagine having that reaction on my head. :confused1:
    That's why you water them down a lot. :toothy7:The baking soda is alkaline (as are soap and most shampoos), so you need the acidity of an ACV or citric acid rinse to restore you hair's pH.
    (With the baking soda wash and ACV rinse you don't get the volcanic reaction of mixing straight vinegar and baking soda, BTW.)
    Here's a recipe from Live Curly, Live Free:
    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Baking Soda Clarification[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]With some silicone-based products, clarification must be done to remove the product that builds up over time on the hair shaft. Rather than resort to sulfate-based shampoos to remove this build-up, which can damage and dry the hair, a baking soda cleanse is preferable:[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Combine:[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif] 1 tablespoon baking soda[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif] 3 tablespoons silicone-free conditioner[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Apply mixture to the scalp and massage firmly, then continue to massage the mixture down the hair shaft to the ends. Work into hair well. Rinse thoroughly with warm water and follow IMMEDIATELY with an apple cider vinegar rinse.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Note: you MUST follow any baking soda cleanse with an apple cider vinegar rinse. Baking soda is alkaline -- meaning it will raise your cuticle and open up your hair shaft. The apple cider vinegar is acidic and will close your cuticle back down. If you don't follow the cleanse with an ACV rinse, you'll be leaving your hair shaft open and setting yourself up for more frizz than you'd probably like.[/FONT]
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  • pulchri2dinouspulchri2dinous Posts: 1,014Registered Users
    Thanks for the responses! I just do 1 Tablespoon of Baking Soda to 2 Cups Warm Water and 1 Tablespoon of ACV to 1 Cup of Warm Water.
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