Best HG of gel/ curl definer combo for 2b hair

annie may

Hey...I need a definer / gel to hold and enhance curl, but my hair weighs down and droops easily. I use a leave in too.....I get so frizzy.
What do ya'll use & recommend?
ps: new pics too

CurlyinColorado

I'm going to be eager to hear the responses, too, because I'm suffering from cooler weather hair blues!

BTW - What are you currently using?

LavenderCurls

I got the Alagio Crazy Curl Balm in a swap and it works pretty good. Also had to try the Aussie Volumizing Texture Gel (darn PJ monster :laughing9: ) and it works pretty darn good, too!

My cooler weather gel is Graham Webb Making Waves gel and for me it works well with any leave-in or conditioner. I used it on my Italy trip last week (weather was cold over there) and my hair held up quite nicely!

CurlyinColorado

Welcome back LavenderCurls! Hope you enjoyed your trip!

annie may

I am such a PJ and I search endlessly for the perfect combo to raise my roots, cause pretty ringlets in my canopy and a "walk away" that looks lowing and pretty.
Currently I am CG:
Twice a month: scalp massage with a scalp oil, leave overnight & shampoo in the A.M. sometimes I use a gentle sulfated shampoo here.
DT w/ heat once a week (or more) w/ [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Too-Shea-Extra-Moisturizing-Conditioner-p-105.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-too-shea-extra-moisturizing-conditioner]Too Shea[/buylink]
Shampoo twice a week w/ Ana Banana by Circle of Friends (sulfate free)
here is the mix up and where stymied
I like CK, but I have trouble using the proper amount; either flat 'n noodly or selected pretty ringlets with puffy patches between....not great.
I like Jessicurl RR & [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]CCSS[/buylink], but my hair seems to weight down too much for these & still looks fizzy.
My hairstylist, Leo Freeman, used Devacurl B'leavin, Angell & Set it free and my hair aways looks amazing under her hands. I bought the products, I already had C1 and although I really like Set it free, I use too much and my hair gets gummy but looks wonderful! I think I like B'leavin, but the jelly texture takes some getting used to and I'm not sure I am getting the best product disbursment. I work it through my wet hands to break down all the jelly blobs and then with my head flipped I puddle my long hair upward with my hands. I do this with 2 nickel jelly blobs.
I am about to replace my CK w/ liter #2. I will be needing gel too and wanted to test other waters and remain CG true.
Thanks in advance for your help

CurlyinColorado

I'm a pj, too!
Do you plop? Have you tried it?

annie may

My goodness yes, I plop. After I have all my product in I plop for 10 to however many minutes. Then I do my Set it free spritz.

CurlyinColorado

I use CK as a defrizzer, under Sebastion Hi Contrast or Circle of Friends Erik Shaping gel.
If I use it alone, I get stringy curls. Angell on top of CK and in general just causes my hair to poof - good volume tho.

Jessicurl stylers are my go to products, but despite shiny, nice hair, I get loose waves and not much volume - the oils weigh my hair down.

Other hard holding gels are BRHG, Abba Weightless and I've heard the Alagio curl creme is hard, too.

HTH

annie may

Colorado: I think that is what my problem is w/ my Jessicurl, I just don't have enough power curl to hold up the oils. I can get my hair straight *really* easily. It's the damnest thing really....it I want it straight it has too much curl & if I want if curly, it goes flat.

CurlyinColorado

can't tell from your pics, do you have layers? Long ones help boost curls a bit.

annie may

yes oh yes, lots of little layers that fall without shelves :flower:
I just wish they were all curly spirals like after my hairstylist does them, sigh.

missy60

I use Jessicurl products but I have found that I use a normal amount of RR the half that much CCSC mixed with another harder holding gel. I have better hold and less frizz, but I still get the soft non producty curls.

annie may

I have been trying all combinations;
CK & [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]CCSS[/buylink] & angell
RR & [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]CCSS[/buylink] & angell
CK & RR & angell
all of these might have GF curl spray gel & or [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-Set-it-Free-p-259.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-set-it-free]Devacurl Set it Free[/buylink] on top as a styling finale.

Kasey314

Have you guys tried LOOB? I have been using it and have had consistently more curl definition. I use it under any kind of gel - I've found that cheap suave gel works just as well as Angell.

I also have the same issues w/ Jessicurl stylers - I love the way they make my hair feel, but it gets really weighed down. No matter how I use them, it just never seems to work.

I think that's why I like LOOB so much; a lot of people find it drying, but I think that may actually be a GOOD thing for me... It's like if everything I use is moisturizing my hair just goes limp and *gasp* straight, so I need something a little drying in there for balance.

Anyway, try LOOB! :laughing8:

annie may

In my reorder of CK I got a sample of Alagio Crazy Curl (defines and enhances curls).....WOW! whatta big buncha curls I got today! I used B'leavin under and Angell over.
Anybody esle try this?
I only got enough for one application, wish I had two to see for certain. but I'm super impressed.

bostonwaves

I use CK and Angell - My HG and only products I use now.

msgiblet

annie may wrote:

In my reorder of CK I got a sample of Alagio Crazy Curl (defines and enhances curls).....WOW! whatta big buncha curls I got today! I used B'leavin under and Angell over.
Anybody esle try this?
I only got enough for one application, wish I had two to see for certain. but I'm super impressed.

The Alagio Crazy Curl Balm is quite popular here. Here's one of the threads that was about it:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/viewtopic.php?t=113346&highlight=alagio

A-Slave-2-The-Wave

annie may wrote:

Hey...I need a definer / gel to hold and enhance curl, but my hair weighs down and droops easily. I use a leave in too.....I get so frizzy.
What do ya'll use & recommend?
ps: new pics too

Hey annie may,

May I suggest the one I'm using... it's called L'anza "Zero weight styling gel" it's a great hold and it very light - just as it says on the tin. It's alcohol-free too so could help the frizz?

Here's a website, but if you are from the US maybe googling it might come up some good results...

http://www.beautybay.com/haircare/lanza/volumeformulazeroweightgel/

CurlyinColorado

annie may, I've been having tons of luck for almost two weeks with Shea Moisture Shea Butter leave in with Sebastian Hi Contrast gel layered on top. I scrunch the crunch with pink boots but I think one can use almost any creme curl enhancer, i.e. innersense, recoil, alagio, etc.

PS: I also think my hair is behaving well because I've scheduled a much needed hair cut.

agoldenlover

Hi!
For years I didn't even realize what nice wavy hair I have because I always used a blow dryer and a brush- or I wore a hat!

Now I love using Jessicurl products! My hair is soft, shiny and bouncy. It has waves and curls! Here's what I do: After washing and conditioning my hair with Gentle Lather shampoo and TooShea extra moisturing cond. (sometimes I use the aloba daily condish but I just switched to the more moisturing one), I use a wide tooth comb on dripping wet hair. I apply Rocking Ringlets (about three nickel sized puddles) scrunching,scrunching, then I apply [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]Confident coils[/buylink] (about one nickel and two dime sized puddles)

Scrunch, scrunch.. then Scrunch with a micro towel, plop in a big micro fiber towel for about 20-30 minutes while I finish getting ready... take the towel off and voila! Ringlets and waves! Adjust it slightly then don't touch it until I get to work (hour long commute in toasty warm car) and when it's completely dry, I use a very wide toothed pick to fluff up a little bit and get rid of the wet look. It looks great all day! No frizz, no droop! One thing I discovered is that no matter how soft and nice it feels, I have to keep my hands off! It looks better through the day if I don't touch it.

I occasionally switch out the Rocking Ringlets for [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]Re:coil[/buylink] which works really great for making even more curls!

I hope this helps,
Linda from Illinois