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No response to my other post, please help.

vivasmomvivasmom Posts: 312Registered Users
I posted a few down about needing help with my daughter's hair. I read the curly kids thread, but still have questions........

I don't understand about the protein condish issues. It seems like a lot of the products folks like (ORS Hair Mayo, Carrot Oil etc) have petro or mineral oils. I thought those were big no no's?

Is honey rinsed out? or added to condish and then left in? Lots of conflicting posts.
Barely wavy mommy to a fine, silky with thready corkscrew 4 1/2yr old girl. HG's Moisture Maniac, PM The Conditioner, Cactus leave-in (original formula)"Mommy I want to look like a lion!" = hair loose and flowin'.

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  • starfishbluesstarfishblues Posts: 49Registered Users
    hi there. i'm sorry no one responded to your first post. i am a mixed race 3b/c and i can only tell you what i use and hope that helps.

    i think different people react to petroleum and mineral oil differently. i use pantene relaxed and natural shampoo and conditioner which lists petroleum very high in the ingredients and my hair does fine with it. however, i can't really speak for everybody. i know it dries a lot of hair out.

    as for honey, i like to add it to my conditioner at the ratio of about 1:2 honey to conditioner and then rinse out when finished. as honey is a natural humectant, it attracts a lot of moisture to my hair and my hair is very shiny and healthy-looking when i use it.

    again, i'm not sure if this is what's true for your daughter - you should just try different stuff out. i wish you the best of luck and thank you for trying to do the best thing for your daughter's hair.
    3b/c, very fine, low porosity, average density
    co-wash: suave naturals or nature's gate
    shampoo: nature's gate 1x a week
    conditioner: pantene relaxed and natural or pantene nature's fusion
    leave-in: suave humectant
    styler: just a touch of fantasia IC sparklites gel

    hair loves honey, almond oil, jojoba oil, mayonaise treatments
  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    vivasmom wrote:
    I posted a few down about needing help with my daughter's hair. I read the curly kids thread, but still have questions........

    I don't understand about the protein condish issues. It seems like a lot of the products folks like (ORS Hair Mayo, Carrot Oil etc) have petro or mineral oils. I thought those were big no no's?

    Is honey rinsed out? or added to condish and then left in? Lots of conflicting posts.

    Welcome to the site!! I don't have any children, but hopefully I can help. As far as condish with protein, some curlies experience frizz and dryness with proteins, and try to avoid them when doing conditioner washing or general conditioning. I don't have that problem, but you're daughter may experience frizz or over conditioning.

    Products with petro based ingredients I generally use at the bare minimum or avoid all together, unless I wear my hair straight. They can weigh the hair down if used too much, but some people can use it without any problems. Everyone's hair is different, so it's a trial and error process.

    With honey, you can either add it to the condish(in small concentrations) or you can mix it in with Aloe vera gel.

    Since your daughter is two, I wouldn't worry about using too many products or making the routine to difficult, or worry about curl definition(styling). Her hair most likely will change a bit with age, so the simpler the process, the better. It's really about keeping her hair moisturized and healthy.

    With my hair, my mother washed maybe 2 times a month, moreso if I was extremely active, and used a good, but cheap condish. I recommend first some of the Suave conditioners(milk and honey, etc) or some of the VO5 moisture milk conditioners(strawberries and cream, etc). These are cheap, and offer good conditioning. If they don't work, you won't be at a complete loss(only 99 cents) My mother used these products with great success. You may also get away with just using Creme of Nature shampoo(red label). It worked well for my hair as a child(and moisturized enough without having to use a separate condish and detangled well). This can be found in the ethnic section of most stores and contains no petro based ingredients. This is still one of my favorite products.

    Also, I very rarely wore my hair down. When wore down, it tangled very often, and made it very difficult to comb, and made me one sour little girl. Her hair needs to be in protective styling......in braids. This protects her hair from the elements as well as prevents the hair from tangling and her ends getting frayed. It's nice to have her hair out once and a while, but I think it should be kept up. For a hair oil/dressing, may I suggest maybe using coconut oil(with maybe some shea butter mixed in). The oil isn't too heavy, and does a good job of providing moisture to the hair. If this doesn't work, you can use both as body butter.

    You said that you normally can't leave her braids in for more than a week. That's actually pretty good for an active child. At the most, I could go 2 weeks, but that's only because my mom tied my hair down. :) Maybe you can buy a satin pillow case. This helps me when I wear my hair in braids, and is also more gentler on the hair than cotton.

    Don't know if this has helped, but I tried. :)
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    vivasmom wrote:
    I posted a few down about needing help with my daughter's hair. I read the curly kids thread, but still have questions........

    I don't understand about the protein condish issues. It seems like a lot of the products folks like (ORS Hair Mayo, Carrot Oil etc) have petro or mineral oils. I thought those were big no no's?

    Is honey rinsed out? or added to condish and then left in? Lots of conflicting posts.

    my hair doesnt like petroleum or mineral oils for the same reason that shygirl mentioned.

    and when i use honey, i leave it on for a while and rinse it out.

    do you have any pics of her hair or can you compare it to any nc member?