Protein Sensitive Curlies, Help!

teshonteshon Registered Users Posts: 1,127
Hello Ladies,

I'm kinda at my wits end here. I need some suggestions on protein-free leave-ins and conditioners. I've almost had to X everything from my rotation. Back to square one. This really breaks my heart. :crybaby: I try to stay away from products w/more that one protein listed. This has helped me, somewhat. I'm not able to tell what the hidden proteins are. There are proteins in Elucence and RC. I didn't know that there were proteins when I ordered them. The ingredients looked fine to me. Usually, when I see "hydrolyzed" in front of a word like silk or keratin, I know this means silk protein or keratin protein. Most commonly used are soy and wheat proteins. Most natural haircare products have some proteins. I think the only reason I'm able to use Giovanni is bc of all the different oils in the ingredients. This one does contain soy protein. I don't know. Its weird. I usually have to substitute oils in leave-ins high in proteins. I'm finding that products w/little or no natural ingredients work best for my hair. For example, TIGI MM. What are some products your able to use in your protein sensitive hair?

ETA-
I was thinking of experimenting w/Bumble and Bumble(rinse out)leave-in. It's convenient at my neighborhood HEB. Has anyone tried this one?
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3c-4a; Protein Sensitive(forms of wheat, keratin, soy and anything "hydrolyzed"). My hair hates coconut oil and jojoba oil(sometimes).
http://photobucket.com/teshon PW: crazycurls
Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/teshonandfamily

Comments

  • LovemylocksLovemylocks Registered Users Posts: 766
    Brace yourself. You are in for a bumpy ride. Hopefully the ladies will come to your aid and help you out here. As you know I have recently found myself in the same boat and had to rethink my whole regimen and what's in my line up as well. I am trying not to let this thing get too expensive either.

    I got this link from one of the forums when I did a search on protein sensitivity. It has a product list there that helps you with some products that are protein-free. It is not all inclusive, but it is a start.

    http://healthycurls.awardspace.com/index.html

    I have not used any of the products you are asking about. However, I did order some samples from Jessicurl to see how her line would fare with my hair. She said she does not use any proteins in her products, because she is protein sensitive as well. I will let you know how that goes.

    There is a lady on here and I cannot remember her name that did a detail post that was pages long on each conditioner/leave-in on the market and what is in them, how good or bad they are. I was quite impressed with it, but I cannot remember her screenname exactly. It was something like Larabeth (with some numbers at the end) or Laurabeth. Sheesh, I hope someone knows who I am talking about. You may find this thread very useful.

    Also, there are a few threads on the Product Review/Recommendations forum about Bumble and Bumble

    HTH a little in the mean-time!

    -Nicki
    3C s-curls, coils, and corkscrews

    TIGI MM, QB AOHC, KCCC, MJ CM, MJ BBC, JC WDT, CD HM, CD MHH, DC OneC, Veg Glyc, and Jojoba oil.

    http://members.fotki.com/gypsycurls/

    http://www.ratedpink.com


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  • teshonteshon Registered Users Posts: 1,127
    Yeah, her name was laurabeth 33. It was the conditioner chronicles, found it thanks! Wow! What she did was amazing. That took great patients. Shoot, the word patient is an understatement. Thanks laurabeth!

    It's kinda hard trying to keep this hair obsession thing inexpensive. Good luck on that. I've never spent so much on hair products in my 35, soon to be 36 years of living on this earth! It's hard to keep the PJ contained.

    ETA-
    Don't forget to keep me posted on the Jessicurl! :twisted:
    3c-4a; Protein Sensitive(forms of wheat, keratin, soy and anything "hydrolyzed"). My hair hates coconut oil and jojoba oil(sometimes).
    http://photobucket.com/teshon PW: crazycurls
    Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/teshonandfamily
  • LovemylocksLovemylocks Registered Users Posts: 766
    I finally got the Jessicurl samples in the mail yesterday. I will attempt to use them today. I will let you know how it goes. For some reason I was expecting more in these packets. They only hold an ounce worth of product. I ordered two [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]Confident Coils[/buylink] and two Too Shea! and one free [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Rockin-Ringlets-Styling-Potion-p-100.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-rockin-ringlets]Rockin Ringlets[/buylink]. I am not sure if I will use that. I do not need anything that enhances my curls. My hair does that on its own. It already shrinks something fierce. So, I am not sure if I will get the full benefits of using her products with only two ounces to distribute through these thick locks. But who knows, right?

    I said I was going to do samples from here on in, to make sure that I like something. I hate to spend my money and it not be good. And I think that I will try to use more products that I can run to the store to get.

    I tried the Biotera Styling Gel and the HE Set Me Up gels and really liked them together. I will have to try each on its own. I am used to gels, so crunch does not bother me much, but it was so easy to get rid of. And my hair was very soft and shiny. So, unless it changes drastically, I will be keeping these two in my rotation or they may become staples for me. I got second and third day hair out of it.

    I also picked up some Proclaim Aloe Styling Gel, but I get nervous about all of that glycerin. My hair does not like that much glycerin. Way too sticky, but if used in moderation, it may not be a problem. It does leave your hair very soft, but it usually feels sticky and coated to me. So, I am giving it another shot due to these protein issues. This particular one does not have any proteins in it.

    It seems that a lot of things that you can pick up are much cheaper than ordering online. And if more of the non-natural things work well for you, then you will definitely be saving tons of money there alone. You will be able to find most of that in the store. We are about the same age and I am spending more now, than ever!!

    -Nicki :happy2:
    3C s-curls, coils, and corkscrews

    TIGI MM, QB AOHC, KCCC, MJ CM, MJ BBC, JC WDT, CD HM, CD MHH, DC OneC, Veg Glyc, and Jojoba oil.

    http://members.fotki.com/gypsycurls/

    http://www.ratedpink.com


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  • teshonteshon Registered Users Posts: 1,127
    Hey Nicki,

    I've pretty much given up on ordering samples. I did that with Qhemet and Blended Beauty and said to myself, "That's it!" "No more samples!" I find that it's really not enough for me to experiment with and if I'm going to pay at least $5 bucks or more in shipping for just samples I think it's a waste, IMO. The downside to that is that you don't want to have to spend a lot of money on a product that may not agree with your hair. I don't know. You have to take the option that is the lesser of the two evils. Personally, I haven't ordered any product on line yet that I thought was life altering. I've tried many that were good but I don't think I'll die or anything if I don't reorder them. I'm still waiting to be amazed. Most everything that is working for me right now I found at Ulta, Vitamin Shoppe or HEB, go figure! I'm glad the Biotera Styling Gel and HE SMU is working for you. They are both favorites here. You seem to be on a serious gel hunt. :laughing9: Have you tried the AO MM? This one can be purchased locally if you have a Vitamin Shoppe near by. I'm able to use this one and like it. Also, I didn't see any glycerin in the ingredients.
    3c-4a; Protein Sensitive(forms of wheat, keratin, soy and anything "hydrolyzed"). My hair hates coconut oil and jojoba oil(sometimes).
    http://photobucket.com/teshon PW: crazycurls
    Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/teshonandfamily
  • LovemylocksLovemylocks Registered Users Posts: 766
    I have yet to see a Vitamin Shoppe around these parts. NC is where I got the gumption to try the Biotera Styling Gel and HE SMU. Well, I found that I cannot use them together at the moment, until I find a balance between the two. It gives such a white cast to it. Yuck. But the Biotera is not heavy enough for me.

    YES GIRLLLLL, I love gels. In a way, it is such a control thing. I feel more in control of my hair with a gel. I tried the Jessicurl stuff. And you're right about the samples. This is my first time trying the samples and it is a waste of time. I usually just take the plunge. It was not enough to say whether I like or dislike Jessicurl. I can see myself purchasing the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]Confident Coils[/buylink] and the Too Shea. But I do know that I would put a gel on top of the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]Confident Coils[/buylink] right now. My hair is still too short to have much weight to it. I did add two globs of the HE SMU with it. But it seemed okay from what I could tell from the amount that I had. So, I am like you....NO MORE SAMPLES!! :protest:

    I would love to try the AO MM. I hear a lot of good things about it. I know the Health Food Store that is right by me carries some and some Nature's Gate stuff as well. I have to pass this store up as I leave my apartment complex. So, I am gonna see if they have the gel in there. My hair likes a little glycerin, but does not like a lot of it. I am gonna try the AOHR if they have it in there too.

    I hate to wait to receive things in the mail especially NEW hair products. When I get the craving for them, I want them RIGHT away! It is like a drug addiction. I am addicted to hair products. And I can talk HAIR without tiring!

    I was hoping to see more hits on here for protein sensitivity. But it looks like you may have to do more digging in the posts. :pale: So far, it is just us!

    -Nicki
    3C s-curls, coils, and corkscrews

    TIGI MM, QB AOHC, KCCC, MJ CM, MJ BBC, JC WDT, CD HM, CD MHH, DC OneC, Veg Glyc, and Jojoba oil.

    http://members.fotki.com/gypsycurls/

    http://www.ratedpink.com


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  • teshonteshon Registered Users Posts: 1,127
    I was hoping to see more hits on here for protein sensitivity. But it looks like you may have to do more digging in the posts. So far, it is just us

    I did some digging into some old threads and posts and there's definitely other protein sensitive curlies out there:

    mysteryflavored
    gotcurls
    rejoicingcurlygirl
    jlpmom23
    amandacurls
    echokitten
    magoo


    That's just to name a few. I did a search on proteins and only got to read up to page 6. There's many good hair recs that curlies have actually tried from that protein-free product list. That list is not altogether accurate but as stated on the web site, it's a place to start. They didn't seem to talk very much about extracts, though. That's still a mystery or perhaps if I look further I might find something on that. My hair seemed to fit the description of this one CG protein sensitivity:
    meriellyn wrote:

    My hair is similar. It hates the protein in the VO5 Moisture Milks and isn't fond of keratin or wheat protein but loves hydrolized silk and doesn't seem to have a problem with silk amino acids, soy protein, or almond protein.

    ETA-

    I can probably add Brewer's Yeast and Capric Caprillie Triglycerides/Coconut Palm to the list. I've learned that my hair doesn't like coconut in all products. Your protein sensitivity twin is probably out there, too.
    3c-4a; Protein Sensitive(forms of wheat, keratin, soy and anything "hydrolyzed"). My hair hates coconut oil and jojoba oil(sometimes).
    http://photobucket.com/teshon PW: crazycurls
    Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/teshonandfamily
  • LovemylocksLovemylocks Registered Users Posts: 766
    You have really done your homework there!! It seems that I probably read the same threads as well. That is how I ended up buying the Biotera Styling Gel (echokitten) and the HE SMU Gel (curlynikki). It was based on what a lot of curlies that are sensitive to proteins suggested.

    I don't think that I have a problem with all proteins either, but I am not sure which ones are okay, if any. But I never had a problem with the Moisure Milks from VO5 either. But I have taken that away to cleanse myself, and then will use them with one ingredient to see which one is a culprit and which one is okay.

    Finding your protein sensitivity hair twin just might help you to find your HG's!! Let me know what you wind up using.

    -Nicki
    3C s-curls, coils, and corkscrews

    TIGI MM, QB AOHC, KCCC, MJ CM, MJ BBC, JC WDT, CD HM, CD MHH, DC OneC, Veg Glyc, and Jojoba oil.

    http://members.fotki.com/gypsycurls/

    http://www.ratedpink.com


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