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3B/C haven't been here in a while & need help

Hi - I used to visit this website years ago but when I started having kids my curls went nuts so to compensate I began blow drying and straightening. Now that I've had three kids, and my hair is growing back curly (is that weird? has anyone else experienced a difference) I am completely lost as to what to do with my curl. I like to wear it curly but it is so darn frizzy and the curl doesn't seem like curl anymore. It seems more like a textured mess. Could that be from blow drying? Overall my hair is healthy, believe it or not, but I just don't know if it got used to being straight. I am trying to find something to encourage the curl. The last couple of people that cut my hair just give up and blow dry me straight. They say I have "challenging hair". Tell me something I don't know.

So basically, I need some help w/achieving some curls. I don't know what "curl creams" are, when to use them (before or after gel or alone??), good deep conditioners (want to try Ouidads, but is it worth the money?).

Also, I live in Northern Kentucky so if anyone knows of a good, seasoned stylist that can handle a "challenge" can you let me know.

Thanks in advance. It's nice to have this website for support and help!
3B: very thick, fine, easily weighed down by products

Current styling products:
Biolage Gelee or BRHG on top of
KCKT as a leave in or CK when humid
or just Joiwhip alone for moderate weather conditions

Comments

  • rejoicingcurlygirlrejoicingcurlygirl Posts: 654Registered Users
    Welcome back! I am by no means an expert but i'll give it a shot. Someone more knowledgable chime in with any corrections. :wink:

    You probably have build up depending on what products you have been using. I would say your first step would probably be to clarify and then stop shampooing. Have you tried going cg?

    You also probably need a good conditioner and leave in (there are tons of threads: ones you can buy at the drug store or order online) For curl enhancement/definition i love [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]re:coil[/buylink], haven't found anything like it. It is pricey but i only use 2 pea size blobs so it is lasting a long time. I put that in before my gel (current gel fav is still fuzzy duck) in soaking wet hair. This is important for me because once my hair starts to dry i cannot touch it or major frizz happens.

    HTH
    3A; I have HG products!
    Curl enhancer: Mop-C curl cream
    DT: Deva Heaven in Hair; JC WDT
    Gel: B&A; Arc Angel
    Conditioner: Deva OneC; JC too shea
    Frizz fighters: CK, JCS C&S
    PW: curlynow
  • ringletmama2ringletmama2 Posts: 321Registered Users
    Thanks for the reply. I actually did try to do the no poo thing 3-4 years ago. I gave it a good month and if anything I thought my hair looked frizzier and I kind of felt like it needed a good sudsing!! I know it works on some girls from what I've read but I don't think it is for me. I'll try the clarrifying. If your hair has build up does that inhibit the curl from forming? See, I have so much to relearn. Either my hair was better behaved when I was younger or I have just forgotten all of the tricks. Maybe I just need new tricks. I've heard of Recoil. I should try that. Right now I am using Potion 9 and Biolage Gelee. A throw back from my past. I've tried several others in the past 2-3 months and so far this combination is the only thing that is somewhat encouraging a more defined curl.

    Has anyone tried Ouidad's deep treatment? Is it worth the $$, if not what do you use to deep treat??? I think I might need one.

    Thanks again.
    3B: very thick, fine, easily weighed down by products

    Current styling products:
    Biolage Gelee or BRHG on top of
    KCKT as a leave in or CK when humid
    or just Joiwhip alone for moderate weather conditions
  • rejoicingcurlygirlrejoicingcurlygirl Posts: 654Registered Users
    I haven't heard anything about the Ouidad DT.

    I personally like the Jessicurl weekly deep treatment. Also maybe try a milder shampoo like the jessicurl or deva or there are others out there. (something with no sulfates or a less drying sulfate) Also i would check the number 9 and see if it has silicone. it may be good to avoid silicones for a while and see if that improves you hair.
    3A; I have HG products!
    Curl enhancer: Mop-C curl cream
    DT: Deva Heaven in Hair; JC WDT
    Gel: B&A; Arc Angel
    Conditioner: Deva OneC; JC too shea
    Frizz fighters: CK, JCS C&S
    PW: curlynow
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    Not knocking Ouidad (I used it for a couple of years) but you can get excellent less expensive products. Not knowing whether your hair is coarse, medium, fine and how curly it is -- tough to get specific. But it sounds like you could benefit by either co-washing or a gentle non-sulfate shampoo, using moisturizing rinse-out conditioners and leave-ins, and a good gel. And deep treating.
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  • ringletmama2ringletmama2 Posts: 321Registered Users
    yikes, what is co-washing????
    3B: very thick, fine, easily weighed down by products

    Current styling products:
    Biolage Gelee or BRHG on top of
    KCKT as a leave in or CK when humid
    or just Joiwhip alone for moderate weather conditions
  • Laney1Laney1 Posts: 308Registered Users
    I've been having great hair lately with this routine. Just thought I would share, as I'm also a 3b/c - shoulder length:

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-No-Poo-p-53.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacurl-nopoo]Devacurl no-poo[/buylink]
    Devacurl OneC (leave a bunch in)
    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink] ( I use a lot)
    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]Re:coil[/buylink] (scrunch in just a bit all over- it's great to enhance curl)

    I let sit for a little bit and then I diffuse to dry it about 75% (finish drying on it's own). Then I scrunch the crunch out when dry.

    I don't ever comb or brush, just use my fingers to apply the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink].

    Since Ive been doing this, I've gotten so many great compliments. I get 2nd and 3rd day hair pretty much always, if I put it up in a pineapple at night (ponytail on the top of head).
    3B, with some 3C
  • bbbeccabbbecca Banned Posts: 232Banned Users
    yikes, what is co-washing????

    It's when you wash with only conditioner (no shampoo)
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  • jcejce Posts: 507Registered Users
    Agree with all the advice posted. A good clarifying shampoo and a good deep treatment to get started, and then go from there.

    I just tried the Healthy Sexy Pumpkin Masque (or whatever it's called) and liked it for moisturizing. Not too keen on the scent, but it faded enough.

    I also use a leave-in every day. Right now it's Abba Nourishing (no cones).

    Other favorite conditioners are Trader Joe's Nourish Spa and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence Moisture Balance[/buylink] (also no cones).

    I also use Paul Mitchell's Super Sculpting Gel and Glaze (water soluble cones).

    Can you tell I have a thing about avoiding cones?? They really mess up my hair.

    As far as a stylist, I'll tell you about mine, and you can decide for yourself. I live in Cincinnati, and she's at the Mitchell's in Kenwood. She's a curly too. I don't always like the products she uses (lots of cones sometimes), but I get a decent haircut that I can wear curly. It's $45 for a wet cut - not sure what it would cost for a complete style and dry, as I'm too impatient to wait and sit under the dryer. She does a little styling, but no drying. She only works 3 days a week, so not always easy to get an appointment, but I only go 3 or 4 times a year, so not too bad. If you'd like her contact information, just let me know.
    3b/c normally, 3a/b in the winter