HELP-what can be wrong with my baby?

cajuncurlscajuncurls Posts: 270Registered Users
OK, elliot is 6 1/2 weeks old and I havent gotten more than 3 hours of sleep a night.
She has a lot of gas - I mean A LOT - and we've been through all the Enfamil formulas and are now on Nutramigen. It's helped a little, but not as much as I hoped. She can't sleep more than 2 hours at a time.
She seems to have a lot of stomach aches and when she starts to take her bottle, I can hear her stomach rumble and she cries and kicks her legs. Once she gets going it's okay, but I can tell she's hurting. She chokes a lot while eating because she's sucking so hard.
And when she sleeps, she wakes up a lot crying like she's in pain.
I'm giving her a little rice cereal at night, but I don't think that's the problem since this goes on all day long.
I can count on one hand the number of days she's been feeling all right, and they are wonderful. But I'm back at work now - and I work on a deadline every day - and it's taking its toll. I'm practically a zombie!
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  • geekygeeky Posts: 4,995Registered Users
    Sounds like you need to keep trying different formulas. If she's having tummy issues I don't think the rice cereal is helping, as it's even harder to digest. What does your pediatrician say? Can you get a referral to an infant tummy specialist?
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  • inheritedcurlsinheritedcurls Posts: 2,954Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I would definitely keep trying formulas. I had this same issue.

    I'm assuming you tried Soy???

    You might also try one of the elevated pillows. It might help her sleeping. Chas just now is off his reflux medicine and is sleeping without an elevated pillow.

    I let a friend of mine borrow my small elevated pillows because her little girl had tummy issues. It really helped her.

    Hang in there. I know it can be frusterating especially when they are so small.
  • wavezncurlzwavezncurlz Posts: 1,814Registered Users
    we had the same problem and I was breastfeeding exclusively. The pediatrician mentioned that newborn bowels take a long time to work correctly and the "gas" and faces they make are the result of this. Her suggestion - though difficult to take - was to wait it out. By around 8 weeks, she was much better. She wasn't totally non-gassy until about 3 months. It was like one day, she woke up and had no more trouble.
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  • curly_keltiecurly_keltie Posts: 791Registered Users
    I would definitely stop with the rice cereal. Her digestive system is not ready for it yet. I would also consult your ped.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    Cut out the rice cereal. It certainly isn't helping and could be making the situation worse. Keep trying out different formulas. Talk to your pediatrician for some suggestions.

    Hang in there!
  • cymprenicympreni Posts: 9,609Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I agree with the others, different formulas and cut out the rice cereal.

    Have you tried mylicon drops for gas yet? I never like to use them much, but when it comes to it effecting everyone's sleep it might be a good idea.

    If memory serves me correctly, 6 weeks is a big growth spurt. My oldest from 6-8 weeks it was horrible, he was always crying, gasy, and seemed like he could never get enough to eat.

    Also someone once told me that newborns sometimes when they are gasy, eat more then they should, because it temporarily makes them feel better, but in the end it makes them feel worse, so they want more to eat, bad cycle. That sense the suckling is what really helped them, that pacifiers might be advisable.
  • cajuncurlscajuncurls Posts: 270Registered Users
    I agree,she is definitely overeating because she THINKS she's hungry.
    But at 3 a.m. when we're both miserable, I let her have the bottle even though she just ate. Sometimes it's the only thing she wants and the only thing that makes her semi-happy.
    I just feel so helpless.

    As for formula, we've tried regular Enfamil, soy, gentlease and lactofree. Same problem continued. The Nutramigen has given her a *little* relief but if it's not helping tremendously I'd like to switch her back to lactofree within the next couple of months. That stuff is expensive and very stinky. Her poops are toxic.

    I know she will grow out of it; I just want to be able to share her with everyone around me and she's so unhappy all of the time that I feel like a bad mother! I was going to leave her with my mom for a few hours last night so I could get a little sleep, but she was so grumpy I told my mom to forget it and I took her home.

    I know there's an angel in there! It breaks my heart when she smiles at me one second, then cries from pain the next!
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  • cymprenicympreni Posts: 9,609Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Oh and also I meant to say, he did not want the pacifier at first. He hated it, but I kept shoving it in his mouth when I knew he wasn't hungry, and he gave in after a while.
  • Oregano  (formerly babywavy)Oregano (formerly babywavy) Posts: 5,297Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I don't understand why you'd be giving a 6 week old rice cereal. That's way too earlier for her tiny little tummy.

    I don't think she's eating b/c she's hungry. Your stomach is the size of your fist, so a baby has a tummy the size of HER fist. That is very tiny. And if she's eating formula, it's not going through her system as fast as if she were eating breastmilk.

    I would be she's not wanting to eat, but wanting to suck for comfort. Breastfed babies want to be nursed constantly b/c even if they're not hungry, it's comforting for them to suck, and be close to their mother.

    As I mentioned in another thread, make sure you're burping her constantly, and try some Gripe Water for the gas.
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  • kimberly jkimberly j Posts: 153Registered Users
    We went through the same thing with Jocelyn and had to put her on Similac Alimentum - it was the only thing that would help her pass the gas. It is incredibly expensive for a small container, but was SO worth it to help her. I also used Gripe Water in her bottles, just a little bit went a long way.

    We also used Avent bottles - not sure if your bottle and/or nipples may make a difference. Maybe she's getting too much air when she's sucking through the nipple?

    I'm not sure about the rice cereal this early either, but again, every child is different so I'm certainly not an expert on that. I know we didn't give Jocelyn rice cereal until she was a few months old.

    Good luck to you & Elliot. I've been there, done that, so I hope things get better soon!
  • cajuncurlscajuncurls Posts: 270Registered Users
    Believe it or not, I started her on rice cereal because her PEDIATRICIAN suggested it. I never gave it to my older girls until they were a few months old.
    I'm on my second bottle of gripe water, no results. Doc has given her a prescription medicine for gas, and one for colic that has a sticker on the bottle that says "May cause blurred vision."
    So now when she gets really cranky I say, "Is she bad enough that I want to blur her vision?"
    Believe it or not, we had a pretty good night (she slept from 11-2, took bottle, slept 2:40-5:30). Of course, she was in bed with me, which she loves. And I don't mind smelling her sweet Baby Magic head next to me!
    Remind me I said this when I'm complaining that she's 3 and still sleeping in my bed.
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  • beliciousbelicious Posts: 196Registered Users
    you might try using a probiotic called Lactobacillus reuteri. There have been studies showing it to be more effective than Mylicon (simethicone) or gripe water. We bought it in powdered form and we put it in 1 bottle of breast milk each day when our baby was 1 month-3 months old. Baby is doing great now at 4 months. Was it just time or the probiotic? -I don't know. But I felt confident it was worth a try. here's some info: http://aapnews.aappublications.org/cgi/content/citation/28/4/2
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/119/1/e124
    http://www.ei-resource.org/news/2007/babies-colic-probiotic.asp
    we used this...
    http://www.herbalremedies.com/probiotics1.html
    good luck
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  • Oregano  (formerly babywavy)Oregano (formerly babywavy) Posts: 5,297Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    cajuncurls wrote:
    Believe it or not, I started her on rice cereal because her PEDIATRICIAN suggested it. I never gave it to my older girls until they were a few months old.
    I'm on my second bottle of gripe water, no results. Doc has given her a prescription medicine for gas, and one for colic that has a sticker on the bottle that says "May cause blurred vision."
    So now when she gets really cranky I say, "Is she bad enough that I want to blur her vision?"
    Believe it or not, we had a pretty good night (she slept from 11-2, took bottle, slept 2:40-5:30). Of course, she was in bed with me, which she loves. And I don't mind smelling her sweet Baby Magic head next to me!
    Remind me I said this when I'm complaining that she's 3 and still sleeping in my bed.


    Well, I'm sorry if it seemed like I was coming down on you - especially since your pedi suggested it, but I find that so weird!!

    Something thats been known to help w/ gas and colic is to use rice WATER. Look it up online before doing it, but I think what you do is cook down rice, and then use the actual WATER the rice was cooked in and feed that to the baby. It sounds kind of weird to use water you've cooked w/, but it's supposed to help.

    Another suggestion is to lay her on her belly on a hot water bottle, or a heating pad. Make sure you lay a blanket over it and check her often to make sure she doesn't get burned. And I wouldn't leave her alone on an electric heating pad. I usually turn it on, let it warm, turn it off for a bit, and repeat. But be cautious b/c it is plugged in :idea:

    IMO, she's still young enough that you're not spoiling her, or doing any damage by letting her sleep with you. If she's comfortable, then let her do it.
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  • cajuncurlscajuncurls Posts: 270Registered Users
    This is why I love this site - all of the great suggestions!

    I just ordered the probiotic and I hope it works. It can't hurt, that's for sure!
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  • cymprenicympreni Posts: 9,609Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    That is weird that the Ped. suggested rice cereal. I was always told nothing but breast milk or formula until at least 4 months.

    I 2nd the heating pad or whatever for the belly that helps, also gentle rubbing of the belly in a clockwise direction (I think) is supposed to help.
  • curly_keltiecurly_keltie Posts: 791Registered Users
    cympreni wrote:
    That is weird that the Ped. suggested rice cereal. I was always told nothing but breast milk or formula until at least 4 months.

    I 2nd the heating pad or whatever for the belly that helps, also gentle rubbing of the belly in a clockwise direction (I think) is supposed to help.

    and now they recommend no solids until 6 months - just bf'ing or formula.
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  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,938Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Believe it or not, I started her on rice cereal because her PEDIATRICIAN suggested it

    I agree with everyone else, this is useless. Our ped told us we could try it because it sometimes helped but 95% of the time it made things worse.

    Also, I found gripe water to be just 100% useless. Mylecon works better. It isn't absorbed by the system, it just passes through, so you can give it as often as you need to (as per ped and ER doc).

    Our DD had reflux and tons of gas because, and I didn't know this till she was ten weeks or so, all the crying makes them swallow air which gives them gas. The ped gastro suggested Malox Ultra for her breakthrough reflux and as a side effect, it knocked out the gas. I would give it to her and ten seconds later it was like a machine gun was going off in her diaper.

    I always say this, but it seems so common that I just want to put it out there - consider reflux and make your doc do more than just write you a prescription if you think your baby has it.
  • Oregano  (formerly babywavy)Oregano (formerly babywavy) Posts: 5,297Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I didn't want to ask my pedi about reflux b/c I didn't want them doing unnecessary things to her to test her for it. A lot of babies have a common reflux problem just b/c they're digestive systems aren't used to eating yet.

    I bought the Gripe Water b/c it was cheaper than the Mylicon, and for Bella it works, but I'm sure every baby is different. Then again, I'm not using plain old Gripe Water, the one I have is by Little Tummies, so it still has simethicone in it for gas.
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  • HairproductjunkieHairproductjunkie Posts: 363Registered Users
    I empathize with you! (((HUGS))) My baby had colic/gas AND acid reflux and we didn't get her on the right routine & meds until around 8 weeks. The Nutramigen helped the most, but overall didn't really do much for her. Plus it gave her HORRIBLE diahreah (she shot it ON THE WALL a few times :shock:) Here's what helped us:

    --Dr. Brown bottles: They really helped cut down on the air she swallowed.

    --MAM "Nano" pacifiers: She wouldn't take a paci at first, but these worked. They are smaller, for younger babies, and are textured so that the baby can "grip" onto them better. I had to keep sticking it into her mouth for a few times, but once she got it, there was no going back!

    --Sleeping with her: I was one of those parents who said they would NEVER sleep with their child, but she would not sleep well unless I did. Then, almost magically, at 3 months, she decided that she wanted to sleep on her own, and has done fine ever since! There are still times when she isn't feeling well that she sleeps with me, but it didn't end up being a problem.

    --Bouncing her when she was going to sleep: It helped release the gas, and she would burp it up while she was going to sleep. Plus, now I have KILLER calf muscles from all of that bouncing. :wink:

    --Mylanta Ultra: I would give her 1/2 ml when she needed it. The Mylicon drops helped some, but this helped a lot more.

    --Finding out she had acid reflux: On the advice of a poster here (I think it was you, CGNYC!), I had her tested for acid reflux, and once that medicine kicked in, I had a completely different baby!

    --Reglan: It's a prescription medicine that empties the baby's stomach faster. Helped with both the acid reflux and the gas.

    --Holding her upright for 30 minutes after she ate.

    Hope you find something that works! Good luck!
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  • Oregano  (formerly babywavy)Oregano (formerly babywavy) Posts: 5,297Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Oh yea, ditto to the pacifier thing. Bella sucks her thumb, which I actually prefer, and it's much easier than me having to keep sticking a paci in her mouth.

    But the constant sucking keeps them swallowing frequently, which help the gas and reflux.
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  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,938Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I didn't want to ask my pedi about reflux b/c I didn't want them doing unnecessary things to her to test her for it. A lot of babies have a common reflux problem just b/c they're digestive systems aren't used to eating yet.

    There is no test for reflux. If they don't respond to medication, they may test for other things. They sometimes do an upper or lower GI but again, that's mostly to rule out other things.

    I so didn't even want to HEAR "reflux" when my dd was small. Everything I knew about it sounded awful and miserable and I just kept hoping it was something else and would pass. But reflux is very painful so I think if it's a possiblilty you have to at least look into it.
  • cajuncurlscajuncurls Posts: 270Registered Users
    I've considered reflux but because she isn't projectile vomiting (both my sister's sons have horrible reflux, they couldn't keep anything down as babies until they got medicine) I haven't asked my dr.
    I have a mild case of reflux which became really bad during my pregnancy. Luckily, it seems to be gone now. My mom has it bad, as well - i took her to the emergency room a couple of times when she was hurting so bad she thought it was her heart).
    I guess I need to read up on it since there's so much of it in the family.
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