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L'Oreal's condish formulations are getting on my nerves!

I can't believe how many brands L'Oreal owns and how they are copying the same condish formulas across them all! Why would anyone pay for a Matrix, L'Oreal Textureline, or L'Oreal Serie Expert rather than Garnier Fructis or L'Oreal VIVE?

I was recently looking at the ingreds for the newer L'Oreal Professional Textureline Fresh Conditioner, and I was so disappointed for another carbon copy formulation. The Series Expert Shine Blonde Conditioner and Absolut Repair Conditioner formulations are nearly identical to the GF ones too? Matrix Color.smart Conditioner is right there too.

Don't they have any original thoughts over there at L'Oreal?!? I read somewhere that they own Kerastase, Redken, and recently acquired the Body Shop. I don't have a lot of respect for Redken overall (many of their formulas are similar to drugstore brands in a general way), but gosh, it's getting so that P&G (Pantene, HE, Aussie, Head & Shoulders, Physique), Unilever (Suave, Dove, Sunsilk, Thermasilk, Salon Selectives), Alberto (VO5, Tresemme, , Nexxus, Nexxus Phyto Organics, St Ives), L'Oreal (see above), .... This is unreal! No wonder all this stuff looks so similar. I still say that L'Oreal making their conditioners almost identical is the most extreme I've seen it. Sigh....
2b w/ some 3a
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  • asleep to audioasleep to audio Posts: 2,085Registered Users
    Wow! I never knew they owned so much. It's unbelievable and I can see how annoying it is.

    CoN green, HE hello hydration, burt's bees super shiny condish, & KCCC.

    mostly 3b, mod CG


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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Wow! I never knew they owned so much. It's unbelievable and I can see how annoying it is.

    I never knew that either. Seeing that I've rarely been happy with their quality, I'd hate to see them become the Microsoft of the haircare world.

    On an aside, their commercials annoy me. No one has hair that shiny, and they almost always show straight hair.
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  • marinacurlzmarinacurlz Posts: 1,720Registered Users
    I totally agree. I am so sick of all this straight hair fab. I mean when I was a young girl I had stick straight hair, really shiny. Then I hit puberty and my hair got wavier and dryer. Now it's curly, and frizzy at times, not much though.

    But yes, right now I have a vision of some woman on tv flipping her BSL to waist length hair at the camera and having it shine so bright you think you need sunglasses :glasses7: Then she touches it, something we all no better than to do.

    Everytime I see makeovers in magazines, they always cut the womans hair and then blow dry it straight. How rude! :laughing9:
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    3B w/3A underneath

    Medium texture
    Average porosity

    Crazy-picky hair; likes some oils and proteins, but not others, can tolerate some glycerin.

    Current products-
    Co-wash: Suave/Vo5/TJ Refresh
    Rinse out & Leave in: Suave Tropical Coconut/Garnier Triple Nutrition
    Gel: Herbal Essences Set Me Up/Aussie Tizz No Frizz
  • cymprenicympreni Posts: 9,609Registered Users
    I really miss the days of just the choices being normal, dry/damaged and color treated. With all the different products out nowadays, even if you don't care about ingredients, it's way too easy to be overwhelmed with all the choices.
  • TEOGTEOG Posts: 100Registered Users
    I knew L'Oreal owned those companies. They have quite a few companies, all aimed and marketed at different segments, supposedly to keep other big corporations from getting in on the market.

    A list of everything the own


    Professional Products Division
    Kérastase
    L'Oréal Professionnel
    L'Oréal Technique
    Matrix
    Mizani
    Redken

    Consumer Products Division
    L'Oréal Paris
    Garnier
    Maybelline New York
    SoftSheen-Carson

    Luxury Products Division
    Biotherm
    The Body Shop
    Cacharel
    Diesel Perfumes
    Giorgio Armani Parfums and Cosmetics
    Guy Laroche
    Helena Rubinstein
    Kiehl's
    Lancôme
    Paloma Picasso
    Ralph Lauren
    Shu Uemura
    Victor et Rolf parfums

    Active Cosmetics Division
    Dermablend
    La Roche-Posay
    SkinCeuticals
    Vichy Laboratoires
    Innéov
    Ombrelle
    Coily and cute.

    4something-ish
  • asleep to audioasleep to audio Posts: 2,085Registered Users
    TEOG wrote:
    I knew L'Oreal owned those companies. They have quite a few companies, all aimed and marketed at different segments, supposedly to keep other big corporations from getting in on the market.

    A list of everything the own


    Professional Products Division
    Kérastase
    L'Oréal Professionnel
    L'Oréal Technique
    Matrix
    Mizani
    Redken

    Consumer Products Division
    L'Oréal Paris
    Garnier
    Maybelline New York
    SoftSheen-Carson

    Luxury Products Division
    Biotherm
    The Body Shop
    Cacharel
    Diesel Perfumes
    Giorgio Armani Parfums and Cosmetics
    Guy Laroche
    Helena Rubinstein
    Kiehl's
    Lancôme
    Paloma Picasso
    Ralph Lauren
    Shu Uemura
    Victor et Rolf parfums

    Active Cosmetics Division
    Dermablend
    La Roche-Posay
    SkinCeuticals
    Vichy Laboratoires
    Innéov
    Ombrelle


    :shock:

    CoN green, HE hello hydration, burt's bees super shiny condish, & KCCC.

    mostly 3b, mod CG


    Smiles are free, so give them away.

    Celebrate we will, 'cause life is short but sweet, for certain.
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    I knew that L'Oreal owned a lot of brands. I've never really looked at the ingredients of their conditioners. Ever since I severely damaged my hair two years ago, I've mainly used Jessicurl. However, I do use L'Oreal Professionel's (formerly Artec) Smoothing Serum. It has one cone in it, but it's really far on the list. Long time ago, I also used to use Matrix Biolage Gelee and the Vital Nutrients Oil (this was discontinued years ago :( ) I find that L'Oreal's styling products tend to not all be the same, but most conditioners tend to have unhealthy ingredients in them -- even the higher-end salon ones.
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • laurabeth33laurabeth33 Posts: 1,443Registered Users
    Oh, yeah! I forgot about Kiehl's! You know, their formulas always look suspiciously like CO Bigelow's. I don't know who came first, but I'd be thinking lawsuit if I were the original source of their formulas.
    2b w/ some 3a
    product tester geek