no more hotmail/yahoo accounts

webjockeywebjockey Registered Users Posts: 2,786
just a suggestion

What do you think of banning all Hotmail and Yahoo e-mail accounts for registrations on the Board. Going forward, all members will have to use an e-mail address their ISP provided, or use one of the other, more secure e-mail services that are available to register.
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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,060 Administrator
    Sorry, my webjockey account is screwed up.

    I guess what it comes down to is if new posters will trust us. From what I've been reading, some ISP's use not-static IP addresses so banning IP addresses does not completely solve the issue. I know that Gretchen can track IP addresses. What I am suggesting is only for new members going forward to prevent people creating alias accounts and causing trouble. NC.com has a very strict email spamming policy and I know I have never received hair/beauty product related spam since signing up.

    I've also been reading about legislation that would enable companies to acutally legally go after spammers. Very interesting what's going on in the legal world.

    (insert evil laugh)
    I'll get you yet trolls and your little dog too
  • Sugar Plum FairySugar Plum Fairy Registered Users Posts: 178
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Moderator2:
    (insert evil laugh)
    I'll get you yet trolls and your little dog too
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Lol!
    Hehe, finally something to laugh at in this whole situation.

    icon_biggrin.gif
  • AmyWOMANAmyWOMAN Registered Users Posts: 6
    It is not too difficult to find out who a poster's ISP is by IP address, even if it's dynamic. All you have to do is a reverse lookup on the database that holds IP address assignments (arin.net). Some ISPs will be cooperative when one of their users is violating their TOS, and some won't, unfortunately.

    btw, I suspected the latest troll and couldn't say anything. By that I mean the original username, not the new username. Very frustrating. Oh, and I don't mean the porno poster, as I haven't seen any of that.

    None of this is necessarily helpful; I just thought I'd throw it out. If I owned a board having troll trouble, I don't know what I'd do about the hotmail/yahoo issue, as there are also tons of forwarding email services out there too and there's no way I could disallow them all.
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  • SpankMeCurlySpankMeCurly Registered Users Posts: 20
    Agreed with AMywoman. That won't stop the problem. AOL for example has nonstatic IPs. You get a new one everytime you sign in and you can have up to 7 email addresses. I am not computer savvy but I know you can do that compare IP thing because I have been to sites that "trap" you IP addy when you sign in and you are not allowed to register twice.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,060 Administrator
    Gretchen just walked me through some of the more advanced features, so I'll be caught up to speed on how to start my reign of terror icon_razz.gif

    Regarding the IP addresses and suspecting trolls - Definitely send your hunches. There are features that allow many levels of "watching" so all that does is just make the mod's job easier and enables us to catch things faster. Any info you can give us regarding IP management would be most appreciated.

    so I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying about the IP addresses. Spankme and Amy, can I PM ya?
  • SpankMeCurlySpankMeCurly Registered Users Posts: 20
    Sure you can PM me..but I'm no computer expert..just a legal expert icon_wink.gif
  • AmyWOMANAmyWOMAN Registered Users Posts: 6
    But of course you are welcome to PM me. icon_smile.gif
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Registered Users Posts: 13,737 Curl Connoisseur
    this is a suggestion i've made to Gretchen and Michelle back when the footballers invaded, and in email this morning.

    many, MANY message boards will NOT allow members to sign up without a *valid* email address. there are inexpensive programs that check email addresses, as well as simple Java or Perl scripts that could do this. i suspect Amy knows how they work. icon_smile.gif

    this is NOT the address that would appear in your profile - you would still be able to use Yahoo/MSN/Hotmail for those.

    many, MANY message boards also have waiting periods of 24, 48 and 72 hours before newbies are allowed to post.

    i suggest implementing both of them - as soon as possible.
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  • webjockeywebjockey Registered Users Posts: 2,786
    FYI

    It's been a long standing policy to have a valid email address in order to post. that's how people get their passwords.
    hello.world.
  • CurlsCurls Registered Users Posts: 72
    I can not say one way or the other since I am lucky enough to have both a yahoo account and a so called valid email account. But the later is used for business purposes only so here's my nugget of information....

    If this was a rule when I joined, I wouldn't have.

    Don't know if that matters or not but I definatly feel it is a deterent. But as far as I understood yahoo and hotmail were valid email accounts so long as they were active.

    When my local internet provider offered me an email adress I rejected it because I had a yahoo account.

    [ June 15, 2003: Message edited by: Curls ]
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Registered Users Posts: 13,737 Curl Connoisseur
    a "valid" email address does not have to be with a "legitimate" ISP.

    they can be Hotmail or Yahoo accounts and still be the valid.

    the problem with those is that any individual can create DOZENS of them for any purpose - and, obviously, it has been happening here.

    put an end to this, and i suspect you will see a substantial amount of the troll problem disappear.
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  • Strand-edStrand-ed Registered Users Posts: 8
    I don't think it'll solve the problem either... icon_sad.gif
  • Anthro IncarnateAnthro Incarnate Registered Users Posts: 555 Curl Connoisseur
    Very bad idea.

    I never EVER use my "real" email account on the web anymore, after spammers and other privacy invaders got ahold of my last one.
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  • Sugar Plum FairySugar Plum Fairy Registered Users Posts: 178
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Y-Yagottabedifficult Anthro:
    Very bad idea.

    I never EVER use my "real" email account on the web anymore, after spammers and other privacy invaders got ahold of my last one.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Sorry but I agree with this. I don't like giving e-mails besides my hotmail one because of this reason. Still, I suppose if there were only a few of us with this problem it wud be a good idea, it depends how many others feel the same.
  • spiralsandtwistsspiralsandtwists Registered Users Posts: 13
    Bad idea for real. How about the more IP work? I mean this board doesnt have a IP function that can match accounts? Actually reporting troll behvior to the ISP.
  • Raggedyann928Raggedyann928 Registered Users Posts: 7
    I second that it's a bad idea. Hotmail is my primary account. I switch ISP's quite a bit (when I can get a better deal or, as happened before, the company stops providing internet service), so I'd be forever changing my email address here if I had to use the one from my ISP.
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  • CurlyNightCurlyNight Registered Users Posts: 39
    I agree with the bad idea. I think many folks have internet access only at work. Using their email account given to them from their work makes it risky for them to get busted surfing online at work- which many folks do. Many folks create another email account to keep from getting busted in situations like this.

    [ June 15, 2003: Message edited by: CurlyNight ]
  • jenNchijenNchi Registered Users Posts: 10 Curl Neophyte
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Curls:
    If this was a rule when I joined, I wouldn't have. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ditto. Even my mom - an inveterate forwarder of joke emails - doesn't have my "real" email address.
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  • curlstormcurlstorm Registered Users Posts: 8
    I think banning hotmail/yahoo accounts are a very bad idea. I for one ONLY have a hotmail account. I really think you would be limiting access to the site to a great number of people. Everyone doesn't have an ISP provider.

    I don't know how to fix the problem with trolls but I think this is not the way to go about it.
    Because someone who speaks in such absolutes is always wrong.
  • curlstormcurlstorm Registered Users Posts: 8
    I think banning hotmail/yahoo accounts are a very bad idea. I for one ONLY have a hotmail account. I really think you would be limiting access to the site to a great number of people. Everyone doesn't have an ISP provider.

    I don't know how to fix the problem with trolls but I think this is not the way to go about it.
    Because someone who speaks in such absolutes is always wrong.
  • AlwayscurlyAlwayscurly Registered Users Posts: 35 Curl Connoisseur
    I use yahoo and hotmail. I don't even KNOW my "real" address (it's a cable connection).
  • FreeCurlsFreeCurls Registered Users Posts: 4,408
    another vote against this idea
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  • CGNYCCGNYC Registered Users Posts: 4,938 Curl Connoisseur
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alwayscurly:
    I use yahoo and hotmail. I don't even KNOW my "real" address (it's a cable connection).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Same here. I've never used it. And a lot of people who share their parents' or a roommate's computer may not even have a "real" account.
  • webjockeywebjockey Registered Users Posts: 2,786
    I think the verdict is in
    hello.world.

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