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organic hot dogs

zmanzzzzzmanzzzz BannedPosts: 3,826Banned Users
have you tried one?
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  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    Why don't you tell us about them. :P
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    ive heard the ones with dark meat come in larger sizes.
  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    I've heard the same. I don't have any confirmation or debunking on that one, though.
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    they dont have vegan ones though. :?
  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    No, I suppose not. But I haven't heard any complaints about that, have you?
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    partyhair like the st. louis style ones.
  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    I wasn't aware. Clearly I don't know much about this topic. But I know enough. 8)
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    they come in a lamb membrain casing.
  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    I stand corrected. I know about those. Very well.
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    all natural. 8)
  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    Very expensive though.
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    my girlfriend likes them with mayo.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Companies whose organic/grassfed hot dogs are available nationally by mail or retail:

    Applegate Farms: www.applegatefarms.com
    Dines Farms: www.dinesfarms.net
    Let's Be Franks: www.letsbefrankdogs.com
    Niman Ranch: www.nimanranch.com
    Organic Valley: www.organicvalley.com
    Prather Ranch: www.pratherranch.com
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    The key is that the curing code has recently been cracked. Instead of relying on sodium nitrates or the more common sodium nitrites for color, texture and shelf life, hot dog makers have found a magic solution of celery juice, lactic acid and sea salt that rescues the organic dog from its tough brown reputation and rockets it to pink juiciness. It also addresses the concern among some consumers and scientists that nitrites and nitrates might contribute to cancer.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Get 'em while they're hot: Stadium franks go organic
    By Bruce Horovitz, USA TODAY
    Ballparks may soon sell an unlikely offering to chomp along with peanuts and beer: organic hot dogs.
    San Diego's Petco Park and St. Louis's Busch Stadium plan to test sales of certified organic hot dogs and bratwurst next season, pending availability of enough high-quality product.

    "There are some people who will taste organic food — for the first time — at the ballpark," says Rick Abramson, president of Delaware North Companies Sportservice, which handles concessions at 21 major sports facilities nationally.

    Consumers are demanding healthier food everywhere — even at the ballpark. Some fans want food they feel is not only more nutritious, but also safer. Certified organic foods are untouched by preservatives and pesticides, and the meat comes from animals not treated with hormones or antibiotics.

    Organic isn't cheap. Abramson suggests that organic hot dogs at the two parks might fetch about $4 — about a buck more than conventional dogs.

    "Five years ago, we barely had bottled water at stadiums," says Rolf Baumann, a top chef for the company. "Now, we're getting customers who want to see the documentation that certifies something is organic."

    Some stadiums have tested organic entrees in upscale stadium clubs — including $24.95 organic pork chops at Busch Stadium last season.

    Other organic items on tap at the two parks next season:

    •Chicken. An organic chicken breast will likely be sold at the Stadium Club at Busch Stadium, says Jeramie Mitchell, executive chef.

    •Salad. Petco Park's Founders Club salad bar will offer organic greens and veggies, says Sam Viniegra, executive chef.

    •Pretzels. Organic pretzels made by Snyder's of Hanover could expand to other ballparks, says Abramson.

    One nutritionist sees all this as a plus — but not a big one.

    "Anything you can do to improve ballpark food is good," says Chris Rosenbloom, professor of nutrition at Georgia State University. "But there's a misconception that organic food is healthier. I'd rather see them selling grilled chicken sandwiches than organic hot dogs."

    Even then, all of this could give another boost to the fast-growing, $10.4 billion organic-food industry.

    "Parents want to carry through at the ballpark what they do at home," says Holly Givens, spokeswoman for the Organic Trade Association. "But I'll really be surprised when the players start wearing organic cotton uniforms."
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    Zman, have you read Omnivore's Dilemma? I just started reading it this weekend. Very engaging.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Cherish wrote:
    Zman, have you read Omnivore's Dilemma? I just started reading it this weekend. Very engaging.

    no, what is the jist?
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    He starts by looking at the history of corn, why and how it's in everything (e.g mcnuggets are more than 50% corn), and why it's now the primary food for livestock and the adverse effects.

    He then looks at what it would take to cook 4 types of meals... industrial, industrial organic (e.g whole foods), hunt & gather... hmm... that's only 3. Well, I'm only on page 16 at this point, so maybe the 4th is a "better" organic. I just like his writing style and that he writes from the POV of someone who loves food, and is trying to make sense of what has happened to it.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?

    I didn't know that... never had dairy queen, but wow. i'm thinking now that would explain why many ice creams in the US do not taste truly creamy, but just (overly) sweet.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?

    I didn't know that... never had dairy queen, but wow.

    non dairy ice cream. :?

    plus it is all gmo corn and is processed with gmo enzymes. you should probably put the book down. reading it is like taking the blue pill in the matrix. you will never look at food the same and you will be really sad.

    :(
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?

    I didn't know that... never had dairy queen, but wow.

    non dairy ice cream. :?

    plus it is all gmo corn and is processed with gmo enzymes. you should probably put the book down. reading it is like taking the blue pill in the matrix. you will never look at food the same and you will be really sad.

    :(

    I think I can count on haagen dazs not to let me down.

    My coworker that turned me onto the book has been sending me links for restaurants that serve grass-fed meats so I think it's too late for me at this point :lol:
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    Also, I have support in this, so I won't be attempting to make changes alone, but I'll see if we end up just sad as you're predicting, or empowered.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?

    I didn't know that... never had dairy queen, but wow.

    non dairy ice cream. :?

    plus it is all gmo corn and is processed with gmo enzymes. you should probably put the book down. reading it is like taking the blue pill in the matrix. you will never look at food the same and you will be really sad.

    :(

    I think I can count on haagen dazs not to let me down.

    My coworker that turned me onto the book has been sending me links for restaurants that serve grass-fed meats so I think it's too late for me at this point :lol:

    ben & jerry's was called out for not using free range eggs. they switched.
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?

    I didn't know that... never had dairy queen, but wow.

    non dairy ice cream. :?

    plus it is all gmo corn and is processed with gmo enzymes. you should probably put the book down. reading it is like taking the blue pill in the matrix. you will never look at food the same and you will be really sad.

    :(

    I think I can count on haagen dazs not to let me down.

    My coworker that turned me onto the book has been sending me links for restaurants that serve grass-fed meats so I think it's too late for me at this point :lol:

    ben & jerry's was called out for not using free range eggs. they switched.

    Nice :) I like their New York chocolate fudge chunk.
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    yeah, i saw him on the daily show and started doing my own research.

    did you know that dairy queen serves corn instead of ice cream. :?

    I didn't know that... never had dairy queen, but wow.

    non dairy ice cream. :?

    plus it is all gmo corn and is processed with gmo enzymes. you should probably put the book down. reading it is like taking the blue pill in the matrix. you will never look at food the same and you will be really sad.

    :(

    I think I can count on haagen dazs not to let me down.

    My coworker that turned me onto the book has been sending me links for restaurants that serve grass-fed meats so I think it's too late for me at this point :lol:

    ben & jerry's was called out for not using free range eggs. they switched.

    Nice :) I like their New York chocolate fudge chunk.

    you are fun to talk to. how come we never hang out? :(
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    Are you not still living off the grid in montana?
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    Cherish wrote:
    Are you not still living off the grid in montana?

    who wants to know?
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I had one today for lunch at a local mini grocery store. Comes with chow chow, lemograss relish and bread and butter cukes.

    yum!
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users
    zmanzzzz wrote:
    Cherish wrote:
    Are you not still living off the grid in montana?

    who wants to know?

    Perhaps the FBI... or maybe Dateline? I hope you realize I'm not underage.
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