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Washing face with water only

La wavyLa wavy Posts: 52Registered Users
Anyone ever tried this? My skin has been very dry lately so last night I just rinsed with water and didn't put any moisturizer on afterwards. This morning my skin seems more hydrated and softer. I think I was inspired to try this because I had read somewhere that moisturizers can inhibit your skin's own oil production and it's good to let your skin breathe free at night. Might have been on Dr. Haushuka's website.

I know this contradicts most conventional wisdom about skincare and products etc.
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  • godgivenpermgodgivenperm Posts: 678Registered Users
    Although I wash my makeup off at night with a facial soap and then moisturize, when I wake up in the morning I only use water to rinse off my face. I then put on a facial cream that has some SPF.

    I know I saw a TV segment where it was recommended to wash your face with just water. But if I've worn makeup during the day I need a little assistance to take it off. (I use an Aveeno face bar).

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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    i wear a LOT of makeup so that would never work for me!
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  • La wavyLa wavy Posts: 52Registered Users
    I didn't really consider the make up factor since I tint my brows and lashes and just wear lip stuff primarily. I'll let you know how the experiment goes if I continue it... it's only been one day. I was just wondering if it was an actual method, like the OCM... a more natural way to cleanse your face and if in fact it stimulated your own natural oil production that might be inhibited by moisturizing. Then again, maybe I just imagined that I read that somewhere.

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  • AnotherSunnyDayAnotherSunnyDay Posts: 94Registered Users
    Well, I only wash my face with water in the morning.. I have dryish skin but still would never consider never using a cleanser. But honestly, I can't see the point in washing your face in the morning-- other than some oil (which I don't have a problem with being dry anyway) and whatever is on your pillow, what do you need to wash off? So I'd recommend trying not washing in the morning and using a gentle cleanser at night.

    hth :)
  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    La wavy wrote:
    ... I was inspired to try this because I had read somewhere that moisturizers can inhibit your skin's own oil production and it's good to let your skin breathe free at night. Might have been on Dr. Haushuka's website.

    in order to research my columns i read a LOT of stuff about skin care and i've NEVER seen this anywhere in my travels - and you should see the stacks of magazines and books i go through regularly!!!

    :shock:

    your skin can breathe just fine with moisturizer on it. if you're concerned about "blocking" it somehow, use a very light moisturizer that sinks in quickly and easily. dryness actually causes your skin to produce more natural oils which could lead to breakouts. this is why i always tell teens with acne that they need to moisturize too.

    granted, our "mature" skin produces less oil, but it's still going to do it...
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    If you don't have a lot of makeup to wash off, and don't have oily skin, water-only washing should be just fine for you.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    dryness actually causes your skin to produce more natural oils which could lead to breakouts. this is why i always tell teens with acne that they need to moisturize too.


    UGH...moisturizers were the kiss of death to my young-acne-prone skin. Every drop of moisturizer that touched my face caused an extra set of pimples. What I needed was exfoliation, not moisture. I think the idea of moisturizing already oily skin is a huge load of BS that the cosmetic industry tries to convince us to do for their own financial gain.
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    Water doesn't remove makeup. At night I use a dab of castor oil and sapote oil on my face, then remove either with water rinse only or with Ponds Clean Sweep towelletes. Mornings I cleanse with whatever I'm using on my body (not bar soap) or Burts Bees citrus orange facial scrub.
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    UGH...moisturizers were the kiss of death to my young-acne-prone skin. Every drop of moisturizer that touched my face caused an extra set of pimples.

    you and i came into our teen years back when most moisturizers were heavy creams and lotions.

    the options are much, MUCH wider these days!
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    you and i came into our teen years back when most moisturizers were heavy creams and lotions.

    the options are much, MUCH wider these days!


    I suffered with acne til I was 35...only 10 years ago. I still don't need moisturizer, at 45. I don't need it, because I've got oily skin to begin with. Why would I put pore-clogging gunk on my face when I don't need it?
  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    I've actually had both an internist and a dermatologist tell me that "everybody needs moisturizer" is just a myth that the cosmetic companies have put out there. Magazines make their money by *surprise* cosmetic advertisers so they help perpetuate the myth.

    As long as they don't strip their skin with harsh cleansers, young people don't need moisturizers. Young skin usually produces plenty of oil on its own.

    My friend's dermatologist told him to try rinsing his skin with water several times a day and not washing with cleanser. His acne cleared up. Granted, my friend was a guy and didn't wear makeup. The doctor said makeup needs to be cleaned off.
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  • sew and sewsew and sew Posts: 3,443Registered Users
    Back when I was 17/18 and still battled routine breakouts, I tryed that and my skin became better. The best part is that it's free! :lol: Now I'm in my early twenties and have been using just water since, take off foundation and eye make-up with it, and my skin is in pretty good shape. Definitely reccomend at least giving this a shot to anyone who is trying to combat some kind of skin issue.
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  • mafaldamafalda Posts: 510Registered Users
    I don't wear makeup,. but I do suffer from oily skin and blackheads. Would just water washing be enough?
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    it can't hurt to try.

    so many people with acne use harsh cleansers and cleansing methods on their skin in the mistaken belief that it will help, when all it does is strip every bit of natural moisture from the skin and cause it to produce MORE oil to make up for what's missing.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I don't wear makeup,. but I do suffer from oily skin and blackheads. Would just water washing be enough?


    You could try. I have oily skin and am acne prone and just water-washing would be a disaster for me. I need a cleanser to create some surfactant action to clean my face, but not so much that it strips me of all natural oils. It is a real balancing act.
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    mrspoppers wrote:
    I've actually had both an internist and a dermatologist tell me that "everybody needs moisturizer" is just a myth that the cosmetic companies have put out there. Magazines make their money by *surprise* cosmetic advertisers so they help perpetuate the myth.

    As long as they don't strip their skin with harsh cleansers, young people don't need moisturizers. Young skin usually produces plenty of oil on its own.

    Yup. Using moisturizer isn't a preemptive thing unless you get dry skin on a regular basis.
  • mafaldamafalda Posts: 510Registered Users
    Thanks. I guess I could give it a try. I figured water washing probably wouldn't fly with me for now, esp. if the weather starts warming up. I have to get my oil balance in order. I think from years of overdoing it with harsh, drying cleansers, and getting older, have made my oily skin problem way worse. I'm an oily mess by midday, so I use blotters a lot. I've never found a great cleanser that will do the job but won't strip the skin of it's natural oils.
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  • La wavyLa wavy Posts: 52Registered Users
    I'm still rinsing with water only -- it's been five days or so-- but I caved yesterday and applied moisturizer. My skin tends to be dry and I was hoping to see if I would start producing more oil naturally. Probably did not give it enough time but I do live in Southern Ca and it's super dry here.

    I revisited Dr.Hauschka's website and he does recommend not applying a heavy night cream so your skin can breathe free at night. Of course he has his own product he suggests using instead. I think his products are pricey, but pretty good. Again, you have to take every manufacturer's agenda with a grain of salt I suppose and figure out what works best for you.

    Now I'm curious about the washing your hair with water only experiment that others have been discussing on boards...although, no one seems too happy with the results so far.
  • Charming NotionCharming Notion Posts: 697Registered Users
    okay, i've tried this whole "washing with water" thing for a few days...intially, my skin feels smoother, like right after i dry it off. but after i apply suncreen, it like there's thick make-up on it or something. it was the same with my moisturizer, which was quite light. could i be putting too much on or...?

    another question; do any of you use toner/astringent with this routine?

    btw, i have combination skin with an oily forehead and nose, large pores on my nose, and ruddy cheeks.
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  • steph_einasteph_eina Posts: 47Registered Users
    Here's the thing.

    The moisturizers most people use are chock full of parabens, waxes, and various chemcials.

    No wonder it clogs the skin. :P


    Try using a natural essential oil blend. Contrary to popular belief, a well-made blend of oils will simply melt into your skin and not cause any breakouts. Try Saffron Rouge (saffronrouge.com) - they have a wide selection. I use Primavera Wild Rose capsules every night.

    If a simple oil blend is too light, try Mountain Rose Herbs (mountainroseherbs.com). They have actual cremes that are a little thicker but still totally natural ingredients, no chemicals.
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  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    dryness actually causes your skin to produce more natural oils which could lead to breakouts. this is why i always tell teens with acne that they need to moisturize too.


    UGH...moisturizers were the kiss of death to my young-acne-prone skin. Every drop of moisturizer that touched my face caused an extra set of pimples. What I needed was exfoliation, not moisture. I think the idea of moisturizing already oily skin is a huge load of BS that the cosmetic industry tries to convince us to do for their own financial gain.

    Left to its own devices, my T zone is an oil slick. While oil-free moisturizers didn't actually break me out, they didn't help reduce the production of oil either, and left me with scary greasy skin when I woke up in the morning! :shock: Oils don't seem to do me any favors either. As mentioned earlier, I think the key for most of us with oily skin is just to avoid harsh cleansers. As long as we don't completely strip them our natural oils should be all we need.
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  • geordiegirlgeordiegirl Posts: 4Registered Users
    Just an experience to add to the thread:

    My cousin suffered with the most terrible acne as a teenager; it was really pitiful. She had pale skin, dark black curly hair (which was not considered the 'in' thing in the 70's), and bright red angry acne. After trying numerous different soaps, cremes and prescriptions, she went to a new doctor who told her to stop using soap and only rinse her face with water.

    4 weeks later her skin was clear.

    I never forgot the lesson and I have since then (30 years ago) I have not used soap on my face, whether I wear lots of makeup or none. I may see one zit a year (around that time of month) but it is a rarity. Im's getting older but it was only a couple of years ago when I got carded for buying beer when my 20 year old son was with me.

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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    La wavy,

    I have been washing my face with water only since last June. It started as an experiment because I became frustrated with (presumably gentle) cleansers stripping and irritating my skin. When it seemed to work well for me, I just kept going with it. Now, it’s been almost a year!

    This may not work for everyone, but I have normal to dry skin and I hardly ever wear makeup. I also live in a pretty dry climate (about 40 miles south of you in the OC). I have been diagnosed with mild rosacea, so my skin is very sensitive and prone to breakouts. For me, the simpler the routine (and the fewer the ingredients I use), the better. Less is more. Here is what I do:

    1) At night, I rinse lightly with water and apply a 1% salicylic acid gel for exfoliation and breakout prevention.

    2) In my morning shower, I rinse my face with water only and dry it off in the shower so that it does not stay wet during the shower. I read on the Skin Type Solution site that “prolonged water immersion” can be irritating for skin.

    3) After my shower, I moisturize my face with a mixture of emu oil (just a tiny bit) and a hyaluronic acid serum boosted with antioxidants (Berry Beneficial Antioxidant Serum from Pure Skin Formulations).

    4) Because sunscreens cause me to break out (rosacea, sensitive skin, etc.), I avoid the sun by wearing a broad-brimmed Tilley hat and/or carrying a UV-reflecting umbrella.

    Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that water-washing has worked for me, but I know that everyone’s skin is different.
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  • La wavyLa wavy Posts: 52Registered Users
    Musicat,

    It sounds like my skin is very similar to yours. I would love to check out the emu oil and hyaluronic acid. I currently mix it up, moisturizing with almond oil, olive oil and coconut oil , but I have heard great things about emu oil as well -- any suggestions as to where I should buy these products? Thanks for the rec for the Tilley hat. I don't like Sunscreen much either.


    So far the rinsing with water only has been going well, so I intend to keep it up.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    but I have heard great things about emu oil as well -- any suggestions as to where I should buy these products?



    Emu oil can vary greatly in quality depending on where you get it. Some of them SMELL or congeal...kinda gross. The best source for quality emu oil is LB processors. It never has a smell and quality is consistent. No congealing either. I use their Clear in the sumer, and Ultra in the winter:

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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    La wavy,

    I’m happy to hear that rinsing with water only is going well for you. It was a relief for me when I realized that I no longer had to buy cleansers.

    Thanks to RCW for posting the source for emu oil. I had originally checked out the From Nature with Love Web site because I had heard that their prices for AEA certified, fully refined emu oil were the best, but they were out of stock at the time, so I ordered from LB processors. As RCW said, it is a great source. You just want to make sure that any emu oil you purchase is certified by the American Emu Association, but if you buy from LB processors, you won’t have to worry about that.

    Yes, emu oil is supposed to have some great qualities. From the research I’ve done, it’s the closest fatty acid profile to human skin of any oil; it stimulates skin repair; it is healing to the skin barrier; is anti-inflammatory; is proven to heal wounds faster; and does not cause breakouts in those who are oily or acne prone. I also read that it can help those with rosacea, and I’m all for that. In fact, RCW was my inspiration for trying the emu oil/HA combo, so thanks, RCW! :)

    I purchased my HA serum (both plain and boosted with antioxidants) from the Pure Skin Formulations site. The plain HA serum works well, but I find the Berry Beneficial Antioxidant Serum more moisturizing. (It smells yummy, too.)

    Finally, thanks to geordiegirl for posting about her 30-year experience with water-washing. Now, I know that I can keep this going! :D
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Thanks to RCW


    You're very welcome. Thanks to you, I'm buying myself a Tilley hat!!!
  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    Thanks to RCW


    You're very welcome. Thanks to you, I'm buying myself a Tilley hat!!!

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  • La wavyLa wavy Posts: 52Registered Users
    While we're at it, any suggestions for overall body moisturizing? If the emu oil comes in such small quantities, I suppose it's not meant to be used all over.
  • meriellynmeriellyn Posts: 1,135Registered Users
    steph_eina wrote:
    Here's the thing.

    The moisturizers most people use are chock full of parabens, waxes, and various chemcials.

    No wonder it clogs the skin. :P


    Try using a natural essential oil blend. Contrary to popular belief, a well-made blend of oils will simply melt into your skin and not cause any breakouts. Try Saffron Rouge (saffronrouge.com) - they have a wide selection. I use Primavera Wild Rose capsules every night.

    If a simple oil blend is too light, try Mountain Rose Herbs (mountainroseherbs.com). They have actual cremes that are a little thicker but still totally natural ingredients, no chemicals.

    I totally agree. I eventually realized that my skin was freaking out w/ most DS stuff because of silicones, waxes, and preservatives. I don't use straight up oil but I do use a moisturizer what contains them in a fairly pure base.
    "Oil free" isn't always the best way to go. I am somewhat acne prone and most oil free stuff breaks me out like a mofo yet once I came to terms with the fact that all oils are not created equal I got better results. Mineral oil is horrid but natural plant oils and extracts can do wonders. :)
    It can be hard to find the right one that doesn't contain all the aforementioned things but I have managed to find a few. One I believe has been discontinued and the other I have to get from the health food store. It's Desert Essence something. I'll have to look. They had some that may be better that I'd love to try but this one works well and fits into my college budget. I'll check the exact name for you in a bit. It contains some plant extracts and oils but isn't greasy or suffocating.
    I'll also check up on the name of the discontinued one because they do have a new formula out that is fairly close and I can still find the older formula at Ulta here. I'm sure it could be tracked down online as well. It contains a sunscreen and I light tint (that really doesn't even show) so I use it in the morning or before wearing make up and the other at night or when I need something soothing. It's also vegan and organic which is kinda cool.
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