Judge a Product by Its Ingredients, Not Its Name. Week of December 3

tinksaysbootinksaysboo Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 543 Curl Virtuoso
This week's episode is brought to you by @BrittanyM!  (I don't know the answer either so I am going to play along :) )

For those of you who are new: I will list the ingredients of two products along with some questions.  Your job is to answer those questions based on just the ingredients.    BrittanyM will reveal what the two products are on Friday! 

These are non-CG products.  Both are marketed to purify and leave hair soft and shiny  One is high end and drugstore.  Can you tell?


Product A
Water (Aqua), Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, PPG-2 Hydroxyethyl Coco/Isostearamide, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Leaf Oil, Hydrolyzed Milk Protein, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) Oil, Panthenol, PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate, Dimethicone, Amodimethicone, Sodium Chloride, Glycol Stearate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium-6, Polyquaternium-10, Laureth-4, Laureth-23, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cetrimonium Chloride, Trideceth-12, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Fragrance (Parfum), Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Yellow 5 (CI 19140), Blue 1 (CI 42090).

Product B
Aqua (Water, Eau), Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Cocamide MIPA, Parfum (Fragrance), Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Panthenol, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Leaf Oil, Menthol, Hedychium Coronarium (White Ginger) Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil, Algae Extract, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Leaf Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Anthemis Nobilis Flower Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract, Glycerin, Oleamidopropyl Betaine, Propylene Glycol, Glycol Stearate, PEG-150 Distearate, Citric Acid, Tetrasodium EDTA, Polyquaternium-7, Bisamino PEG/PPG-41/3 Aminoethyl PG-Propyl Dimethicone, PEG-12 Dimethicone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Magnesium Chloride, Magnesium Nitrate, Limonene, Linalool, Citronellol, CI 42090 (Blue 1), CI 19140 (Yellow 5).

Questions:
  1. Which one is the drugstore product and which is high end?
  2. What type of product? 
  3. Which is more moisturizing/less harsh?
  4. Any other thoughts on these products? 


Past Themes:
Co-Wash or Low Poo?
Deep Conditioner: Drugstore or high end brand?
2c/3a | low porosity | fine/medium | low/medium density| protein,coconut, and green tea sensitive | Modified CGM

Low-Poo:  Jessicurl Hair Cleansing Cream
Sulfate Wash: Aveda Rosemary Mint Purifying Shampoo
Rinse Out Conditioner: DevalCurl One Condition
Leave-In Conditioner: Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
Deep Conditioner: DevaCurl Heaven In Hair
Curl Enhancer: Curl Junkie Spiral Lotion
Gel: Jessicurl Spiralicious Gel

Comments

  • BrittanyMBrittanyM Registered Users Posts: 1,218 Curl Virtuoso
    Following just so I can see what you guys are saying.
  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Moderators Posts: 10,840 Curl Virtuoso
    What a fun game! 

    Gretchen
    NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
    3A

    You are beautiful!
  • tinksaysbootinksaysboo Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 543 Curl Virtuoso
    Alright!  I feel armed with the new information I learned from you ladies last week!

    1.  I am going to say product B is the drugstore brand
    2. these are shampoos?
    3. B looks more moisturizing & less harsh

    2c/3a | low porosity | fine/medium | low/medium density| protein,coconut, and green tea sensitive | Modified CGM

    Low-Poo:  Jessicurl Hair Cleansing Cream
    Sulfate Wash: Aveda Rosemary Mint Purifying Shampoo
    Rinse Out Conditioner: DevalCurl One Condition
    Leave-In Conditioner: Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
    Deep Conditioner: DevaCurl Heaven In Hair
    Curl Enhancer: Curl Junkie Spiral Lotion
    Gel: Jessicurl Spiralicious Gel
  • Guide 65Guide 65 Registered Users, Moderators Posts: 1,984 Curl Virtuoso
    I think these are both shampoos.  I think product A is the high end one and B is the drug store one.

    Interesting that they both have tea tree oil, and one has menthol and the other has peppermint.  I wonder why tea tree oil is always paired with something minty.  I have two cleansers myself that have tea tree/minty combos.

    Product A reminds me of Joico, but I'm not certain of that.  And Product B seems like one of those brands that touts itself as "natural" but isn't really.  Possibly OGX, but maybe not.

    I can't say which is harsher.  They both contain a harsh sulfate, but they also contain multiple silicones and polyquats which will mask the harshness.  I wouldn't say either one would be moisturizing.
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • tinksaysbootinksaysboo Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 543 Curl Virtuoso
    Interesting observation on the essential oils.  I did some searching.  Tea tree oil is commonly used for dandruff while peppermint oil helps with itchy scalp.  If both are in fact true (I've become a skeptic!), it makes sense that they are paired together!
    2c/3a | low porosity | fine/medium | low/medium density| protein,coconut, and green tea sensitive | Modified CGM

    Low-Poo:  Jessicurl Hair Cleansing Cream
    Sulfate Wash: Aveda Rosemary Mint Purifying Shampoo
    Rinse Out Conditioner: DevalCurl One Condition
    Leave-In Conditioner: Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
    Deep Conditioner: DevaCurl Heaven In Hair
    Curl Enhancer: Curl Junkie Spiral Lotion
    Gel: Jessicurl Spiralicious Gel
  • Therese1Therese1 Registered Users Posts: 2,563 Curl Virtuoso
    1. I'm going to vote for product B as drugstore based on the fact that the fragrance is so high up on the ingredients list. I'm not confident about this, though!

    2. These are both shampoos.

    3. I'm going to vote for product A as less harsh because product B has two sulfates up top.

    4. I agree with @Guide 65 that product B looks like a pseudo-natural product. There are a lot of herbal extracts in it, but they all fall below fragrance on the ingredients list, which makes me wonder how much of the "good stuff" is in there.
    Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
    RO: IN Harmonic
    LI: CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
    DC: JC Deep Conditioning Treatment; Weleda Rosemary Conditioning Oil
    Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel; Kenra Firm-Hold Gel; Sevi Blue Yarrow Sea Salt Spray
    Low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
  • cnic216cnic216 Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 157 Curl Connoisseur
    1. I think Product B is the drugstore brand and Product A is the high end one. 
    2. I think these are both shampoos. 
    3. I think Product B is more moisturizing 
    4. I agree with the consensus that Product B seems to be pseudo natural. Product A, even though I think it's the high end one, really doesn't have anything in it to moisturize which makes me think it's more of a clarifying shampoo.
  • BrittanyMBrittanyM Registered Users Posts: 1,218 Curl Virtuoso
    So this one was a hard one. Both are obviously shampoos and not CG. I did it somewhat on purpose. I wanted to show that high end brands can be just as bad if not worse than drugstore.
    Product A is OGX hydrating teatree mint shampoo at 61 cents per oz.
    Product B is Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Special Shampoo at $1.38 per oz.
    I tried the Paul Mitchell on recommendation from my hairdresser who raved about it. It claims to be gentle. I tried it even with the one silicone as a clarifying shampoo. Let me tell you, it is most definitely not gentle. So for a high end brand, this shampoo is terrible. I like the tingle and that is it.
    Other CG tea tree shampoo options are:
    Trader Joes Tea Tree Tingle  (CG friendly from ingredient list I found) and 76 cents per oz on Amazon
    Eden Bodyworks Peppermint Tea Tree Shampoo at $1 an ounce.
  • tinksaysbootinksaysboo Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 543 Curl Virtuoso
    WOW!  tricked us all!  Good choices @BrittanyM!



    2c/3a | low porosity | fine/medium | low/medium density| protein,coconut, and green tea sensitive | Modified CGM

    Low-Poo:  Jessicurl Hair Cleansing Cream
    Sulfate Wash: Aveda Rosemary Mint Purifying Shampoo
    Rinse Out Conditioner: DevalCurl One Condition
    Leave-In Conditioner: Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
    Deep Conditioner: DevaCurl Heaven In Hair
    Curl Enhancer: Curl Junkie Spiral Lotion
    Gel: Jessicurl Spiralicious Gel
  • Guide 65Guide 65 Registered Users, Moderators Posts: 1,984 Curl Virtuoso
    Wow, that was a good one!  After last week's comments, I noticed product B had the perfume right up at the top and figured that was a cheaper drug store product.  I guess even the salon brands do that.
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • BrittanyMBrittanyM Registered Users Posts: 1,218 Curl Virtuoso
    Huh, interesting. I didn't even notice that. I think the Paul Mitchell is cheaply made with just a high end brand name.

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