Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee - this is a hard hold gel?

ttoosdayttoosday Posts: 509Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
I hate to start a whole new thread on this, but I tried the search bar for this product and it said nothing found...? It might not be working right.

Anyway, I broke down and purchased the Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee to see what the rave was about. After Id had worse hold with LA Looks Spikes (level 12) than with the Sport (level 10), I thought Id try the one everybody says is literally hard like a rock.
This is supposed to be hard hold? I watched a reviewer on youtube who said this stuff made her hair like icicles and she was afraid it was going to break her hair in half. Wha....? This stuff barely holds my hair in clumps and is not really holding my waves either, my clumps are going straighter as the day goes by. And I work in an office all day. What gives? I used a big quarter sized glob on each side, and then another quarter sized glob for smasters technique after Id scruched alot of the water out. Is my hair the most contrary and product resistant hair in the entire world, or what happened? Am I using too little? If so, there is NO way I could use this at the price it is cuz I'd be buying a bottle every couple of weeks. Also, my hair is low density. I measured it yesterday and my ponytail is exactly 2 inches circumference so its not like I didn't use enough...I dont know.  My LA Looks blue is just has hard as this and my experience is that is baaaaarely hard hold. Any ideas? Thanks!
CG since 11/2014
Mostly 2B, but ranges A-C front to back and root to tip
Low density, very coarse, high porosity
Collarbone length, gray dyed brown, dry and rough
Typical LEG routine could be any combination of:
Lo poo: Shea Moisture brand shampoo, Ion Hard Water Shampoo
Cowash: As I Am Coc Cowash
RO: GVP CB, Aussie Mega Moist, Not Your Mothers Gardenia
Leave In: As I Am LI, KCKT, or Not Your Mothers Gardenia
Enhancer: Camille Rose Curl Maker
Deep condition: SM Deep Treat Mask
Protein: Hask Keratin
Styler: Curl Keeper Original, Ouidad Climate Control gel, LA Looks gel

Comments

  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,343Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    they must have changed the formula. i tried it many years ago and it made my hair like cement.  i tossed it out.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:curl junkie conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: curl junkie 
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • ttoosdayttoosday Posts: 509Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    That is what I expected, so the first use I used a tiny amount and I had frizz. So the next use, I really piled it on. Hmm I don't know. Must be a new formulation. Or I got one from out of date batch or something. 
    CG since 11/2014
    Mostly 2B, but ranges A-C front to back and root to tip
    Low density, very coarse, high porosity
    Collarbone length, gray dyed brown, dry and rough
    Typical LEG routine could be any combination of:
    Lo poo: Shea Moisture brand shampoo, Ion Hard Water Shampoo
    Cowash: As I Am Coc Cowash
    RO: GVP CB, Aussie Mega Moist, Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Leave In: As I Am LI, KCKT, or Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Enhancer: Camille Rose Curl Maker
    Deep condition: SM Deep Treat Mask
    Protein: Hask Keratin
    Styler: Curl Keeper Original, Ouidad Climate Control gel, LA Looks gel
  • Guide 65Guide 65 Posts: 1,499Registered Users, Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    Check the ingredients - the one in the silver tube has silicones.  It's the one in the beige/pinkish bottle that's supposed to be CG friendly.  I'm told you can find it at Ulta, but it wasn't at the store I went to.  I've never tried either version myself. 
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • Curls80Curls80 Posts: 525Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Post the ingredients of the bottle you have. It should be very hard holding. That doesn’t sound right that it didn’t give you hold. 
    3a/3b high porosity, mainly coarse, medium density
    Live in Canada- hot summers, freezing winters- dry dry dry
    As I am cleansing pudding, soultanicals deep condish, curlsmith cowash, lhdc condish 
    KCCC, curlsmith soufflé, ufdcm, mga sculpting gel 
    Scrunch with hair repear towel, then diffuse or air
    Protein- Cnpf
  • ttoosdayttoosday Posts: 509Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    CG since 11/2014
    Mostly 2B, but ranges A-C front to back and root to tip
    Low density, very coarse, high porosity
    Collarbone length, gray dyed brown, dry and rough
    Typical LEG routine could be any combination of:
    Lo poo: Shea Moisture brand shampoo, Ion Hard Water Shampoo
    Cowash: As I Am Coc Cowash
    RO: GVP CB, Aussie Mega Moist, Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Leave In: As I Am LI, KCKT, or Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Enhancer: Camille Rose Curl Maker
    Deep condition: SM Deep Treat Mask
    Protein: Hask Keratin
    Styler: Curl Keeper Original, Ouidad Climate Control gel, LA Looks gel
  • ttoosdayttoosday Posts: 509Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Today is 3rd day and my hair is stick straight! This gel is going in the garbage! Another victim of the nothing works pile!
    CG since 11/2014
    Mostly 2B, but ranges A-C front to back and root to tip
    Low density, very coarse, high porosity
    Collarbone length, gray dyed brown, dry and rough
    Typical LEG routine could be any combination of:
    Lo poo: Shea Moisture brand shampoo, Ion Hard Water Shampoo
    Cowash: As I Am Coc Cowash
    RO: GVP CB, Aussie Mega Moist, Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Leave In: As I Am LI, KCKT, or Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Enhancer: Camille Rose Curl Maker
    Deep condition: SM Deep Treat Mask
    Protein: Hask Keratin
    Styler: Curl Keeper Original, Ouidad Climate Control gel, LA Looks gel
  • WavyKfromNJWavyKfromNJ Posts: 853Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    Some stores will take returns if you are not satisfied.  Check the return policy first.
    2b, 2c,
    High Porosity - Very Fine Hair

    Low Poo: Living Proof Restore Shampoo
    Rinse Out: Living Proof Restore Conditioner
    Leave In: Living Proof Curl Leave-In or Garnier 1 Minute Mask - Papaya
    Treatments: Restore Repair Leave-In, 
    Styling: Living Proof In-Shower Styler with Ouidad Advanced Climate Control Gel Stronger Hold
  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 10,645Administrators, Moderators Administrator
    ttoosday said:
    Today is 3rd day and my hair is stick straight! This gel is going in the garbage! Another victim of the nothing works pile!
    Frustrating!

    Gretchen
    NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
    3A

    You are beautiful!
  • Curls80Curls80 Posts: 525Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Another option is to use little leave in and use the gel on damp hair, not wet. That is, if you feel like trying again! 
    3a/3b high porosity, mainly coarse, medium density
    Live in Canada- hot summers, freezing winters- dry dry dry
    As I am cleansing pudding, soultanicals deep condish, curlsmith cowash, lhdc condish 
    KCCC, curlsmith soufflé, ufdcm, mga sculpting gel 
    Scrunch with hair repear towel, then diffuse or air
    Protein- Cnpf
  • curlyjenncurlyjenn Posts: 590Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I used to use this stuff.  I currently use the LA Looks.  With either, using leave-in before the gel makes my hair very soft and not hard.  If I use without the leave-in, I'm in much more of a crunchy situation.  Maybe try it without your leave-in?
    I'm a 3b, with 3c underneath.
    I'm a product junkie. <3
  • ttoosdayttoosday Posts: 509Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Curls80 and Curlyjenn - good suggestions. I will give it a shot! Also I noticed alot of curlies on Instagram complaining about this season change being terrible for their hair and they were saying nothing was working. Maybe once we get to summer it will improve. 
    CG since 11/2014
    Mostly 2B, but ranges A-C front to back and root to tip
    Low density, very coarse, high porosity
    Collarbone length, gray dyed brown, dry and rough
    Typical LEG routine could be any combination of:
    Lo poo: Shea Moisture brand shampoo, Ion Hard Water Shampoo
    Cowash: As I Am Coc Cowash
    RO: GVP CB, Aussie Mega Moist, Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Leave In: As I Am LI, KCKT, or Not Your Mothers Gardenia
    Enhancer: Camille Rose Curl Maker
    Deep condition: SM Deep Treat Mask
    Protein: Hask Keratin
    Styler: Curl Keeper Original, Ouidad Climate Control gel, LA Looks gel
  • [Anonymous User][Anonymous User] Posts: 0 Curl Connoisseur
    I LOVE this gel.  The thing I think you need to realize is that a gel is a SEALER and not a STYLER. It's not going to make your hair curl.  It will leave a crunch, for sure.  I find the Deva gels are just not strong enough and my hair will flop flat.   Depending on if it is summer or winter will depend how much BSRHG I mix with the Deva gel(s) (I fluctuate between the two types).  WInter? I use a pea size with the Deva gel.  Summer? I use more of the BSRHG than I do the Deva.....but what I find is that when I cocktail, it makes for LESS of a crunch while still giving that hold I need.Using the BSRHG may be a bit much and it probably more made for those that want to mohawk their hair...LOL   Either way, I am finding this gel to be harder and harder to find.  Biosilk told me a few weeks ago they discontinued it so when I see it on shelves (there may be one or two in the shelf).   

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