Volume???

nc96nc96 Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 3 Curl Neophyte
edited January 2018 in Curly Men
I guess I'm around 3a/3b, although this pictures don't show it best, I'd prolly say 3b, my curls are spirally and not very loose. This is from last summer, when I regularly used Dove Soap + Citric Acid + some leave in conditioner and a little bit mousse. I part my hair in middle and when it's dry I usually flip it over to one side or the other to get more volume, although I hate that cause my neck gets sore from moving my head from time to time to move hair out of my face. Although I went back to sulfate shampoos now, mostly 'cause I'm lazy and I have a bit more volume then with with citric acid, although citric acid makes my hair quite silky. Basically I was wondering how to get more volume at top of my head, like haircut, styling, etc. I wouldn't won't to cut my lenght if it isn't neceserry, but I do ocaisonally think of going shorter tho haha so it's not out of question :smiley::smiley: 
Any help? 

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  • bomegabomega Registered Users Posts: 1,355 Curl Virtuoso
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    Hi @nc96 : Welcome to nc.com! Great hair! I'm not sure what to say because I actually think you aren't suffering too badly for root volume. I think you could benefit from getting a hair cut to help manage the hair in general - this will help keep the curls from hanging up on each other, and it might give you more volume without a bunch of flipping. I don't think you would have to lose to much (if any) length to do that, especially if you go to a hair dresser who is experienced with curly hair. As such, if you were up to it, I would consider going to a Devacurl stylist if you can find one near you. There is a risk here that you will get a cut more designed for a woman, than a man. (Note: You also don't have to go to Devacurl to get a good curly haircut - my hair dresser is a discount hair cutter, who just happens to be really good, and knows how to cut hair...including curly hair.)

    There are styling techniques like plopping, scrunching, as well as more advanced techniques for drying that you can read about in the newbie threads. I'm a bit on the lazy side myself, so I haven't tried the advanced techniques. I have tried plopping and upside-down scrunching, but I find that these both increase my frizz, and also cost me root volume, to increase volume in the length, so I personally stopped doing these, and only shampoo/condition/style upright.
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    DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
    Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
    Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
    Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray

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  • nc96nc96 Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 3 Curl Neophyte
    edited January 2018
    My personal problem is when I part it around middle, which I like the most, my hair ends up in triangular shape - there's body on side but little volume on top, I know for some it might seem like a lot of volume, but compared to side volume(body) it's little so my hair ends in triangular shape. So it just looks wide which IMO looks bad. 
    I don't belive there's any devacurl salons here, I'm almost sure there are none, and I would probably even have hard time finding any stylist that knows how to work with curly hair, since most women with curly hair end up wearing it straight and cut for that use. But I might find some overall good stylist, although all stylists seem to butcher my lenght more than we agree. I was more wondering about what shape of haircut would give more volume. 
    Personally I don't really give a c**p about wheter style is more masculine or feminine (if there even is any real distinction). Basically most guys wear the "I sometimes wash my hair" style, so anything that shows taking care abour hair might look more feminine haha :smiley:
    I belive my issue comes from top layers growing faster maybe or something like that (not sure tho) so I loose the strongly defined layers after some time.
    IDK I was just wondering if there is some style that might add more volume on top of my head even when I part in the middle. 
    I might go shorter and do something more contemporary, but I'm unsure wheter short hair would suit my, since I never like myself with short hair the way I'm satisfied with it now at this lenght.
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 20,731 Curl Virtuoso
    Welcome to NC. You have gorgeous healthy looking hair!  I would say it's 3b for sure. Take your time, look around, there is tons of info here for every hair type. 
    --I'm located in Western PA.   --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, joined the forums in May 2005, started going grey in late 2005.   --My hair is 3B with some 3A, currently at mid back length when dry,  texture-medium/fine, porosity-top is low, middle is medium, ends are porous, elasticity-normal.   --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, coconut oil, honey, vinegar.   
    --My CG and grey hair progress -  
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html   
    --My article at NaturallyCurly about going grey - 
    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/color/how-i-went-completely-gray-and-loved-it
  • Therese1Therese1 Registered Users Posts: 2,563 Curl Virtuoso
    IMO, if you want to get rid of the triangle shape, you will need to find a stylist skilled with cutting curly hair. This is a very common curly hair problem.
    Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
    RO: IN Harmonic
    LI: CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
    DC: JC Deep Conditioning Treatment; Weleda Rosemary Conditioning Oil
    Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel; Kenra Firm-Hold Gel; Sevi Blue Yarrow Sea Salt Spray
    Low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
  • bomegabomega Registered Users Posts: 1,355 Curl Virtuoso
    nc96 said:
    My personal problem is when I part it around middle, which I like the most, my hair ends up in triangular shape - there's body on side but little volume on top, I know for some it might seem like a lot of volume, but compared to side volume(body) it's little so my hair ends in triangular shape. So it just looks wide which IMO looks bad. 
    I don't belive there's any devacurl salons here, I'm almost sure there are none, and I would probably even have hard time finding any stylist that knows how to work with curly hair, since most women with curly hair end up wearing it straight and cut for that use. But I might find some overall good stylist, although all stylists seem to butcher my lenght more than we agree. I was more wondering about what shape of haircut would give more volume. 
    Personally I don't really give a c**p about wheter style is more masculine or feminine (if there even is any real distinction). Basically most guys wear the "I sometimes wash my hair" style, so anything that shows taking care abour hair might look more feminine haha :smiley:
    I belive my issue comes from top layers growing faster maybe or something like that (not sure tho) so I loose the strongly defined layers after some time.
    IDK I was just wondering if there is some style that might add more volume on top of my head even when I part in the middle. 
    I might go shorter and do something more contemporary, but I'm unsure wheter short hair would suit my, since I never like myself with short hair the way I'm satisfied with it now at this lenght.
    I agree about the styles not being really that gendered, especially with long hair. Some people have weird hangups though. :/:) I would still look around for a curly stylist, as this is rally the only way to deal with triangle hair. Whether its Devacurl, Ouidad, or someone non-branded. You might be surprised by what you have near you. I live in a small town, but we have a salon here with two Deva certified stylists. Devachan and Ouidad have salon finders on their website for their licenced stylist. However, on the other hand, I'm not sure if you are up for it, but finding a good hair dresser might mean travelling for a haircut. Currently, I drive 250 miles each way for my hair cut because whenever I try to get a hair cut closer, I'm unhappy - my hairdresser in the city is that good. You could also try using the new salon finder here on nc.com (although it has bug on it where the city field is case-sensitive, so be sure to capitalize that field until they fix it.) Be forewarned though that I have *never* been able to use that Salon Finder to get a good hair cut. But you never know...I put my hairdresser  in the Salon Finder (whom I found though a personal recommendation)...and she's great!. :)  If you can find a decent hair dresser, you shouldn't have to lose length. They will take into account your preference.
    Low-poo: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Shampoo for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Coconut & Shea Hydrating Shampoo
    Clarify: Kinky Curly Come Clean
    Rinse-out: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Conditioner for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Everyday Coconut Ultra Hydrating Conditioner
    DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
    Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
    Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
    Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray

    2C, fine, low porosity, low/medium density, protein sensitive

    Looking for styling products and tools

    iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
  • jennykimjennykim Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 10 Curl Neophyte
    I have read you post i am also facing an issue because i am a welder at https://weldingheaven.com/ and i do my work by wearing welding helmet couple of days ago i noticed that my hair volume is decreasing from the middle i have tried many remedies but someone suggested me to change their shapes that will be compatible for its volume because i wear helmet almost 6-7 hours so what i have to do now for their betterment 
  • sophiapaul9719sophiapaul9719 Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 1 Curl Neophyte
    I noticed your message, and I'm having the same problem because I work as a driver at https://mnpcouriers.com/tracking/. I work by myself all day on the road, and a few days ago I noticed that my hair volume was decreasing from the middle. I tried many remedies, but someone suggested that I change their shapes to be compatible with their volume because I wear a helmet for almost 6-7 hours every day, so what should I do now for their betterment?

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