Grey and thin

in Going Gray
I had stick straight, thin hair all my life. When I was a kid it wouldn't even hold a curl when my mom styled it. Sometime around the age of 35 (give or take a few years) my hair began to turn grey, and to my surprise, curly(ish). And with it came frizz😟. Now I think my hair is thinning. I can see through it when it hangs at or past my shoulders. I'm 49, more grey but not all, and can't seem to find the right, products or cut. I began experimenting with different hair products many, many years ago. Everything seems too oily, waxy, heavy, or whatever. I was told to try volumizing products, and not to use volumizing products, let it grow, don't wear it long. Uuuggghhh! I would love to hear from others experiencing the same thing. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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Surprisingly, my hair started to develop a lot more wave. I am now 60-and my hair is about 30-40% grey and very wavy but quite thin. I do color though, with a demi-perm color. I hear ya on the products. I shampoo 2-3 times a week alternating between Nioxin and a good sulfate free shampoo. The Nioxin does have sulfates and cones if you are concerned about that. For styling I've currently been using Deva Curl Ultra defining gel
with B'Leave-in.
Poos" Nioxin, Devacurl, Jessicurl
Leave in: Ouidad Moisture Lock/B'leavein
Rinse out: VO5 Kiwi Lime, Mane and Tail,Too Shea
Mousse: Oscar Blandi Hair Life, Ouidad Playcurl
Gel: Devacurl Light defining gel
I love the fact that you are 60 and have let your fine hair grow long, it is so pretty! My own hair is very fine and I am in the process of growing it longer. It is encouraging to see your avatar and read your post.
Type: 2c
Density: medium
Porosity: high
Thickness: fine
I think the Nioxin is great in that it makes for a healthy scalp environment, but it doesn't actually grow hair. But I think it has made a difference in helping my hair to stay as thick as it was(which isn't that thick) when I started using it, or to keep what I have.
Poos" Nioxin, Devacurl, Jessicurl
Leave in: Ouidad Moisture Lock/B'leavein
Rinse out: VO5 Kiwi Lime, Mane and Tail,Too Shea
Mousse: Oscar Blandi Hair Life, Ouidad Playcurl
Gel: Devacurl Light defining gel
Clarify: Kinky Curly Come Clean
Rinse-out: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Conditioner for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Everyday Coconut Ultra Hydrating Conditioner
DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray
2C, fine, low porosity, low/medium density, protein sensitive
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Poos" Nioxin, Devacurl, Jessicurl
Leave in: Ouidad Moisture Lock/B'leavein
Rinse out: VO5 Kiwi Lime, Mane and Tail,Too Shea
Mousse: Oscar Blandi Hair Life, Ouidad Playcurl
Gel: Devacurl Light defining gel
I have read about the Nioxin Shampoo and the reviews have always been positive. Thanks for the reply.
Type: 2c
Density: medium
Porosity: high
Thickness: fine
Type: 2c
Density: medium
Porosity: high
Thickness: fine
If you have the brown hair in your avatar, doing henna will give you a sort of auburn color, which I think is lovely, but it is less tricky because there is less contrast between the henna color (which will deposit on your gray) and your brown. It will have a natural look and the effect of subtle highlights. If you don't mind an auburn color, I think you should try it. I've heard you can get various shades of brown by mixing henna and indigo in a 1-step process, but whenever I did this I just got light brown, almost no color deposit because my gray is very dye resistant. You would have to experiment to see what your hair can do.
I buy my henna from hennasooq.com and mehandi.com. If you are starting out, I would recommend going to mehandi.com, as they have great customer service and troubleshooting especially for people starting out. Their henna is more expensive but it is lab tested to be free of impurities, so you can be sure it is safe.
Clarify: Kinky Curly Come Clean
Rinse-out: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Conditioner for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Everyday Coconut Ultra Hydrating Conditioner
DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray
2C, fine, low porosity, low/medium density, protein sensitive
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MY hair in the avatar is(colored) but close to that color, but is colored right now with Redken Shades EQ. MY hair now is much more grey than when that avatar picture was taken, especially in the front.
Ellaj- I really like the Nioxin. It does not grow hair-but I think gives the best scalp environment for hair growth. It contains an anti-fungal and DHT blockers, in it's line-up along with botanicals. It also does have sulfates and 'cones, though, for those who are concerned about those things. I don't know if I have an issue with DHT or not, but at least I have it covered in the shampoo. I switch off sometimes with a sulfate free 'poo but use the scalp treatment (step 4) with every wash.
Poos" Nioxin, Devacurl, Jessicurl
Leave in: Ouidad Moisture Lock/B'leavein
Rinse out: VO5 Kiwi Lime, Mane and Tail,Too Shea
Mousse: Oscar Blandi Hair Life, Ouidad Playcurl
Gel: Devacurl Light defining gel
You might be able to find someone who does it out of their home - they usually advertise at Indian and Middle Eastern markets. It is much cheaper, and those ladies are usually really experienced with it (keeping in mind that controlling the specific color is very difficult, but getting a result that looks good/natural is very easy for an experienced henna lady.)
Clarify: Kinky Curly Come Clean
Rinse-out: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Conditioner for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Everyday Coconut Ultra Hydrating Conditioner
DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray
2C, fine, low porosity, low/medium density, protein sensitive
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I have seen that it could do that to loose curls/waves that are fine.
Poos" Nioxin, Devacurl, Jessicurl
Leave in: Ouidad Moisture Lock/B'leavein
Rinse out: VO5 Kiwi Lime, Mane and Tail,Too Shea
Mousse: Oscar Blandi Hair Life, Ouidad Playcurl
Gel: Devacurl Light defining gel
Clarify: Kinky Curly Come Clean
Rinse-out: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Conditioner for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Everyday Coconut Ultra Hydrating Conditioner
DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray
2C, fine, low porosity, low/medium density, protein sensitive
Looking for styling products and tools
iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order