Hair types

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So I have a slight tendancy to disagree with some of the "established" ways of typing wavy hair. Clearly I'm not the only one, we all have pretty much abandoned the nc.com method of 2a=fine, 2b=medium, 2c=coarse in favor of fia's method
which defines wavy hair as:
2) The wavy ones
2a - loose, stretched out S-waves throughout the hair
2b - shorter, more distinct S-waves (similar to waves from braiding damp hair)
2c - distinct S-waves and the odd spiral curl forming here and there
I agree with fia's method much more than the nc.com way of organizing these, but I kinda think it's almost easier to type based on where your wave starts. For airdried hair I'd say that 2c starts high on the scalp, near the crown of the head, 2b closer to ears (like me) and 2a you're almost down on the neck before you really start to see much wave. The spiral thing seems to throw a lot of people off. I get spirals, but they're huge loopy spirals. I'd say 2a's can get them as well but they'd be really really long. I guess it's just the 2c that annoys me because that "spiral" bit kinda includes me but my hair really doesen't look like other 2c's unless I scrunch like crazy, and if airdried I still don't get the wave up above my ears (see www if interested).
Am I the only weird one who's overthought this? I blame all the recent typing threads.
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which defines wavy hair as:
2) The wavy ones
2a - loose, stretched out S-waves throughout the hair
2b - shorter, more distinct S-waves (similar to waves from braiding damp hair)
2c - distinct S-waves and the odd spiral curl forming here and there
I agree with fia's method much more than the nc.com way of organizing these, but I kinda think it's almost easier to type based on where your wave starts. For airdried hair I'd say that 2c starts high on the scalp, near the crown of the head, 2b closer to ears (like me) and 2a you're almost down on the neck before you really start to see much wave. The spiral thing seems to throw a lot of people off. I get spirals, but they're huge loopy spirals. I'd say 2a's can get them as well but they'd be really really long. I guess it's just the 2c that annoys me because that "spiral" bit kinda includes me but my hair really doesen't look like other 2c's unless I scrunch like crazy, and if airdried I still don't get the wave up above my ears (see www if interested).
Am I the only weird one who's overthought this? I blame all the recent typing threads.
Comments?
Fine Wavy (2a)
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What is the difference between straight hair with waves and wavy hair?
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i agree with you. but not only that, but also even if two people have the "same" hair type i think what throws people off more (at least me) is that those two people hair looks totally different... thats just my opinion
Going by fia's method, I'd be a 2C, but unlike your thoughts on where the curl starts, going by my hair, my waves/curls typically don't start until about my ears. Even when I get ringlets, they start out fairly straight, then begin curling.
Typing the hair can get confusing because of so many factors other than just the curl pattern. You throw in texture, coarseness, etc. and it can lead to confusion. Especially when or if you try to compare your hair to someone else who's in your same category. For example, medusahair and I have the same type, but her hair looks SO different than mine. She gets good end definition and has shiny thick curls (to me anyway). Mine tends to "fray" at the ends, lacks shine and my waves/curls tend to be much thinner. (I'm currently in line to inherit her curls
But be assured you're not the only one who has overthought it
2b/3a and 3b on occasion!
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I should probably clarify, 2b on fia's. Here your degree of waviness has nothing to do with it, so I'm a 2a because my hair is fine.
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Also, FIA has pics for the wavies, unlike NC.com, who has NEVER found a 2c example! Honestly, is there NO ONE falmous w/ this hairtype?? :roll:
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where do I find out more about the FIA method? TIA :-)
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I am meeting with a recommended NC stylist in early May, but until then am no-pooing, deep conditioning and trying to style using what I am learning from here, Massey's/Ouidad's books, and Jessicurl's website.
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I totally agree
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Yes! Totally! This is exactly where I am coming from when I sit there trying to detrmine which type my hair is!
Acording to the nc.com types I am 2b/3a my hair is a solidly medium texture. I do not have babyfine hair its thick and silky and I can straighten it easily.
According to CG, I am a wavy. Using the spring test my curls spring up 2 inches. But they are curls. The new growth on the nape of my neck coils into tiny corkscrews and often tie themselves into knots.
I post to this board because when I first starting coming here, the 2bs seemed to be the closest to my hair and the advice I got from them helped me a lot in the beginning.
It's all so confusing. Way too many factors. I think I've just confused myself even more than I was before and now I dislike both methods.
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2C/3A
That's a really good point. My hair really curls when gelled, scrunched and diffused.
I haven't even tried going product free in an age. I wonder.....
Great point! My hair would look very unfortunate if I didn't put much in it or use a diffuser to encourage curls. Since my hair is a combo of 2's and 3's (with the top being 2), it would look horrible and inconsistent! :-(
Anyway. I read more in the 2s forum because of my need to use a low poo twice a week or so. The shared advice there seems more relevent to me than what goes on the world of very curly girls.
Without products, my hair dries wavy with some defined spiral curls around my face and canopy, especially the two on either side of my part. The rest of my hair is solidly wavy but it's poofy and soft. I only use gel, just on soaking wet hair, and plop for about fifteen minutes. Doing that, the spirals get curlier and the waves get wavier, more defined and less poofy. I don't think the typing changes for me whether it's just air dried or I'm using gel.
Hmm... I'm not sure I agree, my waves fall out a lot easier once dry if I don't use gel. They'll fall out overnight without product whereas with gel I can get 2nd-3rd day waves. Frizz isn't much of a problem out here in the desert either.
Weeklyish shampoo with CO's inbetween to keep down the grease.
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Still looking for a good, short haircut though!
I've only been doing the CG stuff for about a week so far. I haven't read the book, so I'm doing some of the basics that I've picked up via the internet and a friend who read it. I was surprised at how quickly and easily I got results, but I haven't been able to get consistency yet. Maybe I never will.
Anyway, this is my hair today (it was muggy and rained, but I never actually got rained on).
I didn't know "type" was such a hot topic! I guess I'm a 2B?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1151/571523510_f3df2517c8.jpg?v=0
I'm not educated enough in typing to say for sure what you are, but you have gorgeous curls!
That depends on the individual. My hair gets straighter as it gets longer because of the weight. Very short hairs (e.g. bangs) turn into spiral curls. When I've worn my hair past bra strap length, it's been almost perfectly (naturally) straight.