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Sorry to board hog: Can any wavies w/ fine hair share favorite products/routines?

la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
I'm mostly 2C (I think) with fine, oily hair that gets easily overwhelmed by products and requires frequent washing. Right now, the pairing of curl enhancing gel with volume spray seems to be enough, but I'd love to be able to incorporate a leave-in (maybe just remnants of a rinse-out?) and experiment with other products. TIA!
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive

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  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    Hi, we're sort of hair twins. My routine is very simple; after washing, I squeeze out the water (otherwise my curl gets pulled out and hair gets weighed down). Then I spray in Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold hairspray (an all natural hairspray that doesn't build up, and you don't need much of it). Then I diffuse. I actually do a scrunch of my hair after I start diffusing to break up the gel cast, as otherwise the diffuser fingers traumatize my hair. Also doing so gives me volume and much better curl. For a leave in, if I want one, I mix a little all natural conditioner with lots of water in a spray bottle and spray it in only after I start diffusing. That way it doesn't weigh down my hair. I find that all natural products tend not to build up as much, though that's not always true. I avoid products with butters and etc.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Thanks so much for your reply! I'm happy to find a hair twin and it sounds like I'm on the right track. Have you used Deva Curl One Condition Delight? I used the original formula years ago, before I had my son, when my hair was thick and coarse, but I expect it would be far too heavy for me now.
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    I have not. I did try some of their products but am definitely allergic to the chemical fragrance. With conditioner, I use either AO GPB or keratin fix (AO was sold to another company who now makes similar products I think, but I've yet to try them), John Masters Lavender and Avocado (expensive, I only use occasionally), or SS PT (now out of business). THere's also mineral fusion volumizing but I haven't used that in forever. All the aforementioned have protein, which fine hair on average tends to love, especially in the summer.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Thanks again! I have the Mineral Fusion and am curious about the John Masters. I'm not sure if my hair likes protein or not (see my other thread); earlier in the week my hair was soft and flat, and I thought it might be the result of too much protein, but it could equally have been too much moisture/product.
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • Therese1Therese1 Posts: 1,707Registered Users Curl Novice
    Some products I am enjoying now are the Jessicurl Gelebration Spray (just need a little bit, or my hair gets overly soft), Jessicurl Confident Coils (lightweight styler), As I Am leave-in (lightweight leave-in), Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold haispray, Intelligent Nutrients Volumizing Spray, and John Masters sea salt spray. I am protein sensitive and have to have mostly protein-free products.
    Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
    RO: IN Harmonic
    LI: As I Am; CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
    Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel
    Normal- to low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    The weird thing with my hair and protein is that I thought my hair had too much. But when I did a treatment it actually perked up and stopped getting all brittle. I think my hair is lower porosity, and when you're low po I think it can get tricky because you have to give something a long time to see if it works. When I put it on a short time my hair was overly stiff; a longer treatment, and it was great! This hair stuff is tricky, that's for sure.
    Homemade sea salt sprays or epsom salt sprays are also awesome. If you boil the water first when the salt is in there they are less drying to the hair.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    The weird thing with my hair and protein is that I thought my hair had too much. But when I did a treatment it actually perked up and stopped getting all brittle. I think my hair is lower porosity, and when you're low po I think it can get tricky because you have to give something a long time to see if it works. When I put it on a short time my hair was overly stiff; a longer treatment, and it was great! This hair stuff is tricky, that's for sure.
    Homemade sea salt sprays or epsom salt sprays are also awesome. If you boil the water first when the salt is in there they are less drying to the hair.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • bomegabomega Posts: 275Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Currently, I use Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing shampoo and conditioner (rinse-out). I use about 4 times as much conditioner as shampoo for my 2C APL hair, no other stylers, and I'm pretty happy with this.

    If you are interested in looking into a new shampoo, I think this is a great option for summer, and Alaffia is such a great company. The downside, is that it seems to be really hard to find these in retail stores anymore, so the only place I can find it now is iherb (linked above.)
    Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
    Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

    Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

    Looking for styling products and tools

    iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Thanks so much Therese, Naturecat, and Bomega!

    Therese, I tried Jessicurl products years ago and had little luck, but my hair was much thicker/coarser then. Perhaps I should try again.

    Naturecat, thanks for the feedback re. protein. Ugh, I don't know how I'm going to figure this out! Can the etsy hair typing that I've read about on the boards help? I would like to experiment with salt sprays, especially since my hair is on the oily side.

    Bomega, thanks for the sharing the products you're having luck with. I've been using Alaffia's cleansing conditioner and it's quite nice--I'll look into the shampoo! It's a local company, so I have easy access to the line.

    Thanks again all!
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • bomegabomega Posts: 275Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hey La-ninon, I would reconsider naturecat's weather comment. I live near PDX and even though its still rainy and chilly, my hair has demanded I switch to summer fomulas.

    Also, Alaffia in general is available at many natural food stores, but for some reason that Revitalizing formula is disappearing. In PDX, only one New Seasons was carrying it. All the Whole Foods stores that used to carry it have pulled it I guess bringing in the new Reishi line, so maybe call ahead to see if they have it. Even online retailers seem to be dropping it. (As a side note, you know Whole Foods has their no questions asked return policy, so its an easy way to try it if they have it.)
    Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
    Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

    Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

    Looking for styling products and tools

    iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    Yes, the hair typing thing is helpful from what I've heard, though I've never done it. But ultimately it takes experimentation. There is fine hair that can get overloaded with protein or doesn't like certain types of protein, while there is some coarse hair that likes protein. That's why there is a several month learning curve on average before you get the hang of CG. Just try one thing at a time.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Thanks Bomega and Naturecat!

    Bomega, that's interesting about the PNW weather. My hair was flat yesterday (and again today) in the mist, but seems to get springier in proper rain. I don't know all the Alaffia lines, but am liking the reishi conditioning wash. Unfortunately, I'm noticing tons of shedding with proper co-washing (this happened the last time I tried CG), so I won't be applying conditioner to my roots anymore, but I do like the extra moisture through the mid-lengths/ends.

    Naturecat, thanks for the advice. I'm so patient and systematic when it comes to skincare--I will have to employ the same approach with my hair!
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • bomegabomega Posts: 275Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Our hair behaves very differently. I can't cowash, as it weighs my hair down too much. Also, those lo-poo you are using look pretty heavy duty on the sodium laureth sulfate. Giving up sulfates really helped my hair. But then I don't use any styling products (much less silicones), so I don't really need sulfates.
    Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
    Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

    Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

    Looking for styling products and tools

    iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Yeah, my scalp seems to need sulfates (genetic hair loss runs, unfortunately, in my maternal line and sudsy cleansers seem to help). Co-washing is still an experiment for me--given the frequent washing and SLS, I need moisture, but my hair is also easily overwhelmed.
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • bomegabomega Posts: 275Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    la_ninon wrote: »
    <snip>(genetic hair loss runs, unfortunately, in my maternal line and sudsy cleansers seem to help). <snip>
    You *really* need to try the Alaffia revitaling shampoo and conditioner. I don't know if it's the coffee, African Black Soap, or the citrus mint scent, but the shampoo seems to really help my hair growth. The matching conditioner is moisturizing but light-weight.

    Ok, I'll stop now. I promise. icon_cool.gif
    Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
    Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

    Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

    Looking for styling products and tools

    iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    No, don't stop! I'm totally going out and looking for that s&c :)
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • UnrulyCurlzUnrulyCurlz Posts: 17Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    CURRENT ROUTINE:
    I shampoo once a week and otherwise cowash every other day (I frequently wash my hair nowadays because I'm still experimenting on what works best for me). I also deep condition once to twice a week interchanging between a protein and a moisturizing one - when I have a full day to myself olive oil is my bestie😚😁.

    While I'm fresh from the shower, I immediately put my leave in and scrunch a bit before plopping for 10-20 min. Since I use the LOC method, I then put a bit of olive oil after plopping followed by the cream. I scrunch the hell out of my hair to create more defined curls and then leave them alone til it's100% dry before I shake my roots a bit for some volume (I always air dry and don't use a diffuser because I like to say I'm allergic to heat tools now 😁lol)

    PRODUCTS I CURRENTLY USE:
    Human Nature Shampoo - sulfate free
    Human Nature Conditioner - all-things-cone free (I learned my lesson lol)
    Leave in: Marc Anthony Curl Defining Lotion or the conditioner I used if I'm lazy/out of my recent leave in product
    Oil: Olive Oil
    Cream: Marc Anthony Curl Envy Cream
    For plopping: any cotton shirt
    (Mostly) Heat Damaged + Colored
    Hair Type: 2C (2B underneath)
    CG since March 2017
    Products I currently use:
    VO5, Human Nature, Isana, Tresemme
    Marc Anthony Curl Defining Lotion (my HG)
    Kerastase Elixir
  • 1001waves1001waves Posts: 67Registered Users
    Fine 2c/3a here. Shampooing 2-3 times a week with Kinky Curly Come Clean is how I cut down on the grease. I then condition with Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus and leave in a pea sized amount on the mid-length to ends. I style with AG Recoil by scrunching in three dime size blobs throughout BSL-length hair. I plop for about 10-20 minutes and air dry or diffuse.


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    Cherub 2c/3a Fii,porous
    Wash:KC Come Clean
    Condition/Leave-in:Devacurl Decadence
    Styling:
    KCCC,AG:Recoil,Arc Angel
    Love:protein Hate:Garnier
    Experiment:at-home color
    Mod CG since 7/22/09
  • 1001waves1001waves Posts: 67Registered Users
    1001waves wrote: »
    Fine 2c/3a here. Shampooing 2-3 times a week with Kinky Curly Come Clean is how I cut down on the grease. I then condition with Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus and leave in a pea sized amount on the mid-length to ends. I style with AG Recoil by scrunching in three dime size blobs throughout BSL-length hair. I plop for about 10-20 minutes and air dry or diffuse.

    What has made the biggest difference in volume and antigrease is shampooing instead of co-washing, not using straight oils on my hair, and cutting down from five million stylers to one.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Cherub 2c/3a Fii,porous
    Wash:KC Come Clean
    Condition/Leave-in:Devacurl Decadence
    Styling:
    KCCC,AG:Recoil,Arc Angel
    Love:protein Hate:Garnier
    Experiment:at-home color
    Mod CG since 7/22/09
  • janiegirljaniegirl Posts: 199Registered Users Curl Novice
    I wash my hair daily, most often with Deva Curl low-poo (currently using Delight, but I'll switch to the original formula when I buy more). If my hair feels dry I'll use BrioGeo Avocado and Quinoa Co-Wash (mostly in the winter), and I just bought Deva Curl build up buster, which I plan on using once a week.

    Condition with Deva Curl One Condition, rinsed out more or less completely. Gel is Ultra Defining Gel. Try to boost the volume with Matrix texturizing spray. If my hair wants to fall in my face, then a tiny bit of Marc Anthony Argan Oil hairspray for hold.

    What I plan on experimenting with next is getting decent second day hair. If I can't manage it the usual way of adding a bit of water and product and scrunching, then I'll try doing it in the shower - just skipping the cleansing and going straight to conditioning. I like to do my experiments on the weekends, so I don't have to go to work with crazy frizzy hair if it doesn't work out right.
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Dear UnrulyCurlz, 1001waves, and Janiegirl,

    Thanks so much--I really appreciate your feedback!

    Janiegirl, does the texturizing spray working differently than a regular volumizing spray or salt spray?
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • janiegirljaniegirl Posts: 199Registered Users Curl Novice
    la_ninon wrote: »
    Dear UnrulyCurlz, 1001waves, and Janiegirl,

    Thanks so much--I really appreciate your feedback!

    Janiegirl, does the texturizing spray working differently than a regular volumizing spray or salt spray?

    I think the texturizing spray is a salt spray. This is the first time I've ever used a spray that's not a hairspray, so I'm not sure how it compares to others.
  • fihefihe Posts: 101Registered Users
    I've been experimenting with some new things in my hair routine lately. I used to wash my hair 3 times weekly with a sulfate shampoo, detangle with a wide-tooth comb in the shower after applying conditioner, never used a deep conditioner, used a terrycloth towel on my head after washing, only used a leave-in conditioner when I felt like it, and scrunched some gel in to finish.

    What I do now is detangle my hair before washing with my Tangle Teezer, starting with the bottom section and working my way up my head. Detangling my hair dry causes me to lose much less hair. Within the past few weeks, I've experimented with different deep conditioners, such as the ORS Replenishing Pak and Hask Superfruit, and used a DIY hot oil treatment once. I've found that I don't need these treatments very often, or else my waves can lose definition.

    While I still wash my hair 3 times weekly, in the past week, I've actually stopped using shampoo altogether and instead cleanse my scalp and hair with a 50/50 mix of apple cider vinegar and water, applied with a hair color applicator bottle. Then, I use VO5 Volumizer conditioner, diluted with water since it's thicker than the other VO5 conditioners, to co-wash, and a cheap Sally Girl shampoo brush to massage my scalp. I leave it in for 10 minutes or however long it takes for me to wash myself, then rinse out thoroughly. I find that I don't need a separate conditioner, but I guess I may use a deep conditioner one of these days in addition to it. After getting out of the shower, I wrap my hair in a t-shirt.

    As for any post-wash product, I use Ion Anti-frizz Solutions leave-in conditioner, oil, and gel. The oil blend I use varies, but usually has a base of grapeseed oil. I was using LA Looks Define & Shine gel, but just today switched over to Suave Max Hold gel, just because I'm almost out of my LA Looks and my mom had the Suave. Since the Suave is pretty sticky, I like to apply oil after, whereas with the LA Looks, I used the oil beforehand. Just a dime-sized amount of oil for my whole head is good! For gel, I like to use three dime-sized blobs: one on each side, and one in the back after turning my head upside down.

    Sorry if I'm not of much help since my routine has been all over the place lately, but one thing I can tell you is that years ago, I tried co-washing for a month or two and it just made my hair flat and a little greasy, but this time around, using the ACV rinse beforehand, and the shampoo brush, really seem to be helping!
    Check out my new blog:
    My Type 2 Hair
  • la_ninonla_ninon Posts: 118Registered Users
    Hello Fihe! Sorry, I'm just seeing your reply--thanks so much for sharing your experience and routine! The change in weather has me interested in using more oils/emollient products, so your routine is a great model for me. Please post if you make any new discoveries!
    Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
    Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
    Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
    Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Yarok Hair Whip, Davines Volu Spray
    Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

    2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    I changed a few things about my routine lately, wanted to share in case any is helpful or you're looking for volume (can't remember your original post, sorry!).
    Here's the critical part: When I wash, I don't scrub with shampoo. Instead I just scrunch it into my lengths, sometimes a bit near the roots. I scrunch water in to rinse. I don't spend time under the showered, not much anyway, and when I do, I use low pressure water. Heavy pressure will flatten hair, pull out curl, give the "helmet head" look.
    Sometimes with the first shampoo, I'll mix it with conditioner to help prevent it from drying my hair.
    After I wash out the shampoo, I'll do an ACV vinegar rinse (my water is hard). Then some conditioner or protein, etc. I scrunch this in and out, too.
    Then I scrunch out water with my hands, I spray in IN perfect hold hairspray, scrunch out more water, with MF towel, spray in some more IN. I start diffusing, break up any gel cast (critical: so it doesn't traumatize my fine hair and make it straighten or bend weirdly). Then I spray in some water mixed with conditioner (to prevent any gel cast from forming), spray some more IN. Finish diffusing, SOTC, some IN to finish off and give strong hold.
    I've found that I've had tremendous curl formation and volume compared to usual, since implementing this routine about a week ago. It's truly a weightless routine that doesn't cause build up in my baby fine hair.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • naturecatnaturecat Posts: 1,986Registered Users
    I changed a few things about my routine lately, wanted to share in case any is helpful or you're looking for volume (can't remember your original post, sorry!).
    Here's the critical part: When I wash, I don't scrub with shampoo. Instead I just scrunch it into my lengths, sometimes a bit near the roots. I scrunch water in to rinse. I don't spend time under the showered, not much anyway, and when I do, I use low pressure water. Heavy pressure will flatten hair, pull out curl, give the "helmet head" look.
    Sometimes with the first shampoo, I'll mix it with conditioner to help prevent it from drying my hair.
    After I wash out the shampoo, I'll do an ACV vinegar rinse (my water is hard). Then some conditioner or protein, etc. I scrunch this in and out, too.
    Then I scrunch out water with my hands, I spray in IN perfect hold hairspray, scrunch out more water, with MF towel, spray in some more IN. I start diffusing, break up any gel cast (critical: so it doesn't traumatize my fine hair and make it straighten or bend weirdly). Then I spray in some water mixed with conditioner (to prevent any gel cast from forming), spray some more IN. Finish diffusing, SOTC, some IN to finish off and give strong hold.
    I've found that I've had tremendous curl formation and volume compared to usual, since implementing this routine about a week ago. It's truly a weightless routine that doesn't cause build up in my baby fine hair.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT