The Big Chop (or trim) tomorrow afternoon! Blunt or Long Layers?

in Hair Type 2
I have fine textured wavy hair with a few rogue coils, between armpit and bra strap length, and I'm going in for a cut tomorrow. Googling around I see blunt cuts are recommended for fine hair, but wavy hair should get layers. From what I've read, Deva and Oidad cuts work better for coarser hair, and they well over $100 in my area anyway so that's out. What do you guys think? What kind of hair cuts do you think works best for your waves?
Hair Type: Bride of Frankenstein
Fine, frizzy, poofy, weak waves, some coils, low porosity, just below armpit-length
Hair routine: co-wash, condish, leave-in, struggling to find styler. Henna diluted with conditioner for root touch-up every 4 weeks or so.
Avoids: 'cones, sulfates heat styling and aloe (allergy)
Needs: Styler recommendations! Hair NEVER fully dries when gel is applied! Mousses & creams do not seem to provide enough hold for my weak waves/coils. Help!
Fine, frizzy, poofy, weak waves, some coils, low porosity, just below armpit-length
Hair routine: co-wash, condish, leave-in, struggling to find styler. Henna diluted with conditioner for root touch-up every 4 weeks or so.
Avoids: 'cones, sulfates heat styling and aloe (allergy)
Needs: Styler recommendations! Hair NEVER fully dries when gel is applied! Mousses & creams do not seem to provide enough hold for my weak waves/coils. Help!
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As for blunt/layers, it's a general consensus that layers are best for curly hair. There are exceptions, but most on here have layers, regardless of curl type or hair thickness. Perhaps consider posting a pic of your waves, as sometimes people will have suggestions of what would look good with your hair.
Speaking from personal experience, going from wet cuts designed for straight hair layers, to going to dry curly cuts made a tremendous difference to my hair. Most on here have found that, though there are exceptions. What type of cut are you getting tomorrow, wet or dry?
3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
Fine, frizzy, poofy, weak waves, some coils, low porosity, just below armpit-length
Hair routine: co-wash, condish, leave-in, struggling to find styler. Henna diluted with conditioner for root touch-up every 4 weeks or so.
Avoids: 'cones, sulfates heat styling and aloe (allergy)
Needs: Styler recommendations! Hair NEVER fully dries when gel is applied! Mousses & creams do not seem to provide enough hold for my weak waves/coils. Help!
Such lovely hair you have! You already have volume so you can't go wrong whatever you do. But still layers would be nice (long layers perhaps), and just trimming the ends on the bottom. I think your hair will look good no matter what though. How did it go? What did you end up doing?
3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
Well, the stylist said my hair had actually thinned quite a bit, especially near the ends. And she discovered a ton of breakage underneath, I think it may be from pinneapling or the loose scrunchy bun I put my hair up in at night. So I've got a just below shoulder length lob now with fairly blunt ends. I'm also going to steer clear of any hard hold gels. I can never fully scrunch out crunch anyway, and I'm starting to wonder if hardening up my hair like that is damaging it.
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Fine, frizzy, poofy, weak waves, some coils, low porosity, just below armpit-length
Hair routine: co-wash, condish, leave-in, struggling to find styler. Henna diluted with conditioner for root touch-up every 4 weeks or so.
Avoids: 'cones, sulfates heat styling and aloe (allergy)
Needs: Styler recommendations! Hair NEVER fully dries when gel is applied! Mousses & creams do not seem to provide enough hold for my weak waves/coils. Help!
If weakness is an issue for you, I have two recs that have helped me; catnip tea and fermented rice water. Catnip tea really strengthens the hair. FRW helps reduce shedding and increases elasticity. You can't go wrong with either.
3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
I just assumed it could breaking from all the manipulation, plus when something is hard, like from a gel before you break the cast, isn't it easier to just snap? And since my hair takes so long to dry, adding the gel on top, even in a small quantity, it just NEVER fully dries, so it's in a weak state the entire day. I do use a couple of different leave-ins (not at the same time) a shea moisture one for low porosity hair (it's actually marketed as a detangler) or sometimes I'll use a watered down version of my rinse out conditioner. I've even tried no leave in, and the gels still won't dry. I haven't tried your gelatin gel yet since I went out of town, but I bought the stuff, so I'll still give that a shot. Maybe my hair needs simple stuff.
I used to never use styling products on my hair (aside from occasional coconut oil) or do all this scrunching, I'm seriously having second thoughts on these CG techniques. Maybe my fine strands can't handle all the plopping and scrunching and the frequent product applications. If I can't get it to improve, I may need to go back to a more hands off and less product-centered approach. I might have less waves, but at least my hair wasn't snapping off
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Fine, frizzy, poofy, weak waves, some coils, low porosity, just below armpit-length
Hair routine: co-wash, condish, leave-in, struggling to find styler. Henna diluted with conditioner for root touch-up every 4 weeks or so.
Avoids: 'cones, sulfates heat styling and aloe (allergy)
Needs: Styler recommendations! Hair NEVER fully dries when gel is applied! Mousses & creams do not seem to provide enough hold for my weak waves/coils. Help!
My hair doesn't do well with too much manipulation either. CG isn't a one size fits all technique, it's really more about learning what works for your hair. If scrunching bothers your hair (and it does a lot of people), try squeezing out water gently, staying in one spot for a minute then moving on to the next one rather than rapid scrunching. Plopping messes up many peoples' hair, too, so you're not alone. As for lighter product application, I'm all for that. The less product my hair uses, the happier it is generally. Plus it allows for more volume.
FWIW, my routine is minimally difficult for my hair. I wash, spray in some epsom salt and conditioner, squeeze water out from my hair, put in just a little of my homemade irish moss jelly, diffuse, (optional: add in a little more jelly and mousse midway through diffusing), then top with an all natural spray. There are no hard hold gels and no fast scrunching, just squeezing out water, natural products, and spray. In general I find that with fine hair, less is more.
3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT