Soft(er) water really makes my hair gorgeous

frcklsfrckls Registered Users Posts: 528 Curl Neophyte
I have been living in Malta for the last couple of years and my hair has almost always a major wreck. Humidity is so high and water is very hard (about the same if not more than London) you can make porn with it. My options boiled down to either have volume with frizz, less definition, less clumps and straw-like or have softness, shine, definition and big clumps but flatten down my roots. :cry:

3 weeks ago I cut my CBL hair into a bob again. And determined to achieve volume, I overhauled my staples. I got volume with good definition alright, but my hairs was definitely still feel straw-like and frizzy.
A week after I had to go to the Netherlands for a month for a course. Immediately after I showered here, my hair became super soft and shiny and no frizz, although achieving volume is quite a challenge. It doesn't matter the fact that I shampoo my hair regularly and diffuse my hair until it's fully dry, not a frizz in sight. My curls also loosened up a lot, but it gets the bounce I was previously desperate to achieve and my waves look more uniform with the straighter underlayer. I finally get that tousled French girls look.

When I go back to Malta, I'm getting Brita to rinse my hair in the shower. I don't know how much it'll help me, but it's better than none. Unfortunately, we live in an apartment block leaving installing water filter is next to impossible and for some reason, people on that island have not a single clue about shower head filter. :angry7:

I'd love to hear how fellow hard-water zone populations handle the disgusting effect of the darned water.
2B/C canopy & 2A/B underlayer
coarse | low-normal porosity | normal elasticity | low-med density
(by GoosefootPrints)

Clarify: Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo, Citric acid rinse
RO/LI: Jason Moisturizing 84% Aloe Vera / Paul Mitchell The Conditioner
Styler: DIY Okra Jelly / Paul Mitchell Thicken Up / Shu Uemura Cotton Uzu Flexible Defining Cream
Treatment: H&B Wonder Oil + VCO, Honey-Cardamom-EVOO-Chamomile

Comments

  • naturecatnaturecat Registered Users Posts: 1,986 Curl Neophyte
    I have so much calcium carbonate in my water it's ridiculous. I use apple cider vinegar every shower to get it out of my hair. It really gets the minerals out of your hair. Also, doing a final rinse with softer water does really help. If Brita doesn't work you can just use (cheap) bottled water too. People who have done so report a noticeable difference. Your hair looks lovely in that photo, noticeably softer and more uniform, like you said. :)

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • frcklsfrckls Registered Users Posts: 528 Curl Neophyte
    naturecat wrote: »
    I have so much calcium carbonate in my water it's ridiculous. I use apple cider vinegar every shower to get it out of my hair. It really gets the minerals out of your hair. Also, doing a final rinse with softer water does really help. If Brita doesn't work you can just use (cheap) bottled water too. People who have done so report a noticeable difference. Your hair looks lovely in that photo, noticeably softer and more uniform, like you said. :)

    But what about the smell? And vinegar rinse every washing doesn't dry out your hair? I'm not too convinced with bottled water in Malta, but I guess I'll try that before Brita. I'm not sure which one would be "cleaner/softer". Distilled water isn't that pricey, too. But either way my boyfriend is so not going to be too happy having to haul bottled water packs more often. :p
    2B/C canopy & 2A/B underlayer
    coarse | low-normal porosity | normal elasticity | low-med density
    (by GoosefootPrints)

    Clarify: Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo, Citric acid rinse
    RO/LI: Jason Moisturizing 84% Aloe Vera / Paul Mitchell The Conditioner
    Styler: DIY Okra Jelly / Paul Mitchell Thicken Up / Shu Uemura Cotton Uzu Flexible Defining Cream
    Treatment: H&B Wonder Oil + VCO, Honey-Cardamom-EVOO-Chamomile
  • Therese1Therese1 Registered Users Posts: 2,563 Curl Virtuoso
    I wonder what would happen if you got your hair wet, then did the ACV rinse, and THEN washed your hair and conditioned as usual? That should get rid of at least some of the build-up, and you wouldn't have the smell. (The smell lingers in my hair too, so I know what you're talking about.)

    I would try distilled water for your final rinse and see what happens. I would think that the distilled water would pull out the minerals (since it has none).

    I think that the Science-y Hair Blog recently had an article on hard water. Maybe head over there and check it out?
    Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
    RO: IN Harmonic
    LI: CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
    DC: JC Deep Conditioning Treatment; Weleda Rosemary Conditioning Oil
    Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel; Kenra Firm-Hold Gel; Sevi Blue Yarrow Sea Salt Spray
    Low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
  • naturecatnaturecat Registered Users Posts: 1,986 Curl Neophyte
    The ACV washes right out so doesn't smell. It hydrates my hair. I guess the amount you use and length of time you leave it on and your hair properties play a role. I believe most bottled water, if not all, is soft water. But distilled most definitely.

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • WavycatWavycat Registered Users Posts: 325 Curl Connoisseur
    I have struggled for years with hard water. I have tried ACV, white vinegar, borax and I use conditioners with EDTA but I the thing that has made a difference to me is 1 tsp fresh lemon juice in almost 2 C water. My hair is finally behaving differently. I wash my hair in the shower and then after I come out to the kitchen and rinse the diluted lemon thru my hair into a bowl and rinse that same water thru 2-3 times. I don't rinse it out. This is working for me where the others worked once or twice and then didn't. I could never get the amt correct for others. I have no place for a water softener either but I did get a shower filter but that is mostly for chlorine. That made a bigger difference because without it my skin would be dry feeling before I finished drying off. I couldn't put lotion on it fast enough. Hard water is just the pits.
    SE PA
    2C/3A med, med density,med elasticity, high porosity color-treated
    No Poo: various VO5s testing Gliss Volumizing (keratin) for summer
    Citric acid rinse or vinegar
    RO: SM Honey Mask with agave
    Conditioner only styling with water, water and more water, or jojoba + SM Superfruit
    Styler: KCCC or Ecostyler Olive Oil occasionally
    Love most oils but can't use CO in winter
  • frcklsfrckls Registered Users Posts: 528 Curl Neophyte
    Therese1 wrote: »
    I wonder what would happen if you got your hair wet, then did the ACV rinse, and THEN washed your hair and conditioned as usual? That should get rid of at least some of the build-up, and you wouldn't have the smell. (The smell lingers in my hair too, so I know what you're talking about.)

    ...

    I think that the Science-y Hair Blog recently had an article on hard water. Maybe head over there and check it out?
    Ah thanks for that! I went over Wendy's post on her blog and read some comments from a reader who use Redken Pre Art and is happy with it. Curious, I googled it but the price is too much. I'm going to see if other route works. Including twice ACV rinse. Perhaps. I know the last time I attempted vinegar rinse, everyone crinkled their noses around me.

    Therese1 wrote: »
    ...
    I would try distilled water for your final rinse and see what happens. I would think that the distilled water would pull out the minerals (since it has none).
    ...
    naturecat wrote: »
    The ACV washes right out so doesn't smell. It hydrates my hair. I guess the amount you use and length of time you leave it on and your hair properties play a role. I believe most bottled water, if not all, is soft water. But distilled most definitely.
    I'm going to try both bottled (which still has mineral) and distilled. I know I still need a bit of grip for my thin hair to have volume, but not to the extent that it's all wiry and frizzy.
    Wavycat wrote: »
    I have struggled for years with hard water. I have tried ACV, white vinegar, borax and I use conditioners with EDTA but I the thing that has made a difference to me is 1 tsp fresh lemon juice in almost 2 C water. My hair is finally behaving differently. I wash my hair in the shower and then after I come out to the kitchen and rinse the diluted lemon thru my hair into a bowl and rinse that same water thru 2-3 times. I don't rinse it out. This is working for me where the others worked once or twice and then didn't. I could never get the amt correct for others. I have no place for a water softener either but I did get a shower filter but that is mostly for chlorine. That made a bigger difference because without it my skin would be dry feeling before I finished drying off. I couldn't put lotion on it fast enough. Hard water is just the pits.
    ITA! I'll be trying the lemon juice route as well. Although I hope plain bottled or distilled water would work since I'm thinking to dye my hair and vinegar/citric rinse would wreck havoc.

    By they way, how much water do you need to do the rinse to make sure that all the minerals get washed out?
    2B/C canopy & 2A/B underlayer
    coarse | low-normal porosity | normal elasticity | low-med density
    (by GoosefootPrints)

    Clarify: Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo, Citric acid rinse
    RO/LI: Jason Moisturizing 84% Aloe Vera / Paul Mitchell The Conditioner
    Styler: DIY Okra Jelly / Paul Mitchell Thicken Up / Shu Uemura Cotton Uzu Flexible Defining Cream
    Treatment: H&B Wonder Oil + VCO, Honey-Cardamom-EVOO-Chamomile
  • sixelamysixelamy Registered Users Posts: 4,157 Curl Novice
    Beautiful! My hair turned around when I moved to a different town with much softer water and we got a water softener. When I had ridiculously hard water (pretty much untreated), the only shampoo I could use was the Yes to Cucumbers shampoo. It contained citric acid that helped chelate the minerals to actually allow something to penetrate. My hair was never fantastic, but it gave me pretty good hair. So try to find a conditioner with citric acid in it, it helps! I tried a citric acid rinse and it burned, I don't recommend that lol
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • frcklsfrckls Registered Users Posts: 528 Curl Neophyte
    sixelamy wrote: »
    Beautiful! My hair turned around when I moved to a different town with much softer water and we got a water softener. When I had ridiculously hard water (pretty much untreated), the only shampoo I could use was the Yes to Cucumbers shampoo. It contained citric acid that helped chelate the minerals to actually allow something to penetrate. My hair was never fantastic, but it gave me pretty good hair. So try to find a conditioner with citric acid in it, it helps! I tried a citric acid rinse and it burned, I don't recommend that lol

    Both my RO and LI have citric acid in it, but I don't think even that helps. My guess would be the Tetrasodium Glutamate Diacetate in YTC shampoo taking effect. I might try it, I think. I still need to see how my hair behaves with the bottled water rinse. I've tried citric acid rinse in the past and I don't remember having problem with it, but then again I'm going to get my hair highlighted when I'm back to Malta and abusing it with acid doesn't seem like the wise thing to do. LOL.
    2B/C canopy & 2A/B underlayer
    coarse | low-normal porosity | normal elasticity | low-med density
    (by GoosefootPrints)

    Clarify: Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo, Citric acid rinse
    RO/LI: Jason Moisturizing 84% Aloe Vera / Paul Mitchell The Conditioner
    Styler: DIY Okra Jelly / Paul Mitchell Thicken Up / Shu Uemura Cotton Uzu Flexible Defining Cream
    Treatment: H&B Wonder Oil + VCO, Honey-Cardamom-EVOO-Chamomile

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