how to get good second day hair

AmbersWavesAmbersWaves Registered Users Posts: 18
I've tried many times to get good second day hair, but it always looks frizzy and I have lots of fly aways. For those of you who have good second day hair, can you please share your routines (also with how you sleep on it etc?). Are some of us just not able to get good second day hair?

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  • MeiMei Registered Users Posts: 259 Curl Neophyte
    Pineapple overnight, no water the next day. I usually use a light oil to smooth flyaways and that's enough for me. The Polished Curl has a good youtube video of how to refresh 2nd day curls.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q82-wCy4Y4
    Multicultural (Caucasian/Filipina)
    2b/2c - f - iii - low porosity - normal elasticity
    Holy Grail: Matrix Biolage Cleansing Conditioner for Curly Hair
    I rotate through the rest of my products depending on weather and etc but usually don't need them
    I try not to use products tested on animals if I can help it.
    Link: Updated hair picture January 2017
  • Therese1Therese1 Registered Users Posts: 2,563 Curl Virtuoso
    Thanks for the Polished Curl link, Mei. I hadn't seen that channel before.

    AmbersWaves, I sometimes have decent second-day hair, though not always. I wet my hands with water and smooth it over my hair (just spraying my hair with water creates frizz; I have to smooth the water over my hair). I get my hair decently wet, though only about the bottom half (not the roots) is wet. I put on one pump of Giovanni mousse per side and then lightly scrunch with a t-shirt. If I feel like my hair lacks weight and is very flyaway, I will also add a little bit of InnerSense texturizer, which is kind of heavy. After scrunching gently, I clip and air dry or else diffuse. This has been working pretty well for me.
    Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
    RO: IN Harmonic
    LI: CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
    DC: JC Deep Conditioning Treatment; Weleda Rosemary Conditioning Oil
    Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel; Kenra Firm-Hold Gel; Sevi Blue Yarrow Sea Salt Spray
    Low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
  • machermacher Registered Users Posts: 1,031 Curl Connoisseur
    Therese1 wrote: »
    Thanks for the Polished Curl link, Mei. I hadn't seen that channel before.

    AmbersWaves, I sometimes have decent second-day hair, though not always. I wet my hands with water and smooth it over my hair (just spraying my hair with water creates frizz; I have to smooth the water over my hair). I get my hair decently wet, though only about the bottom half (not the roots) is wet. I put on one pump of Giovanni mousse per side and then lightly scrunch with a t-shirt. If I feel like my hair lacks weight and is very flyaway, I will also add a little bit of InnerSense texturizer, which is kind of heavy. After scrunching gently, I clip and air dry or else diffuse. This has been working pretty well for me.

    I've been getting really great 2nd day hair. Since I sleep on a cotton pillow case when I wake up my hair is a mess and doesn't seem like refreshing will work but it does. I've found that I have to get my hair as wet as I can stand it with a spray bottle. I've tried the wetting hair with hands but that doesn't work for me cause water doesn't get evenly distributed.

    When my hair is damp/wet from spray bottle there is definitely signs that the products allied from the day before are somewhat reactivated but my hair still needs a little of something. I work outside in the elements. I find that on the weekends when I don't work cause I'm not constantly outside my 2nd day hair only needs very little refreshing.

    Anyway when my hair is damp/wet I'll very lightly scrunch cause they're still some product in there. Then I'll add literally a drop of Aveda Be Curly styling prep to both sides of my hair. I put literally a drop in my hands and emulsify between hands and very lightly scrunch one side then apply small drop and do the other side. Even though the styling prep has glycerin high on the list this stuff is extremely moisturizing and I think the other ingredients that provide the moisture balance out the glycerin well.

    This has been working out for me for 2nd day hair and my theory is I've been using a product line that glycerin is near the last on the ingredient list. If I use Deva Curl Believe-In curl enhancer my 2nd day hair when I try to refresh gets stringy and that 'wet when it's not wet look'. Deva Believe-In is very high in glycerin. The Aveda Be Curly curl enhancer is very low in glycerin and doesn't feel anything like the Deva Believe-In. The Believe-In feels more like a gel with some hold and acts more like a gel first but still is moisturized where Be Curly enhancer acts more like moisturizer but still provides some definition but in a different way.
  • SpiralHamSpiralHam Registered Users Posts: 477
    I have a tough time with 2nd day hair - it seems like spritzing with water or adding conditioner either gives me extra super frizz or takes the curl right out. Or both.

    What works best for me is either wetting it down completely (not my favorite thing to do - I really want my 2nd day hair to be stupid quick and easy!) or using flax seed gel on dry hair. After I take my hair out of the nightly ponytail and fluff it out a bit, I'll smooth my hair between hands coated in FSG, and lightly scrunch the ends to reshape them.

    I don't mind a slightly combed out look, and the FSG really minimizes the 2nd day frizz for me, even if I woke up with it.

    A lot of lazy days just sees the hair never coming out of the overnight ponytail, though :tongue5: If it looks halfway decent I'll often just leave it as is!
    Smorgasbord of finer, porous 2a-3a; straight underlayer

    :thumbleft: collagen
    :thumbdown: humectants outside of optimal dews, PVP, oils/butters, anything remotely comedogenic

    poos: Giovanni TTT, WF365FF, Suave Clarifying
    condishes: VO5 VMT, KLS; IonEC
    stylers: FSG, 4NSBCC, VolumaxMega, AIF, GFPC


    Mod CG since 11/2012. My waves occasionally look best when combed out, so you can pry my combs from my cold, dead hands :laughing6:
  • machermacher Registered Users Posts: 1,031 Curl Connoisseur
    SpiralHam wrote: »
    I have a tough time with 2nd day hair - it seems like spritzing with water or adding conditioner either gives me extra super frizz or takes the curl right out. Or both.

    What works best for me is either wetting it down completely (not my favorite thing to do - I really want my 2nd day hair to be stupid quick and easy!) or using flax seed gel on dry hair. After I take my hair out of the nightly ponytail and fluff it out a bit, I'll smooth my hair between hands coated in FSG, and lightly scrunch the ends to reshape them.

    I don't mind a slightly combed out look, and the FSG really minimizes the 2nd day frizz for me, even if I woke up with it.

    A lot of lazy days just sees the hair never coming out of the overnight ponytail, though :tongue5: If it looks halfway decent I'll often just leave it as is!

    I like the slightly combed out look too. Often times through the day I'll finger comb my hair really quick.
  • machermacher Registered Users Posts: 1,031 Curl Connoisseur
    Woke up this morning and although I had some frizz I decided to refresh 3rd day hair. If I could make it too 3rd day hair with Aveda Be Curly then I'm pretty set and convinced.

    Don't know why I'm getting great 2nd day hair and decent 3rd day hair. The weather has changed and the air is dryer. My theory is products with very low glycerin, products that provide moisture AND protein. My hair doesn't mind product with heavy protein but it seems to mind product with high glycerin in dryer weather.

    I also notice that products with low glycerin or no glycerin don't have that gel like sticky consistency.

    I bought Aveda Confixor Gel yesterday. It has glycerin but it's not high on the ingredient list compared to Deva Curl Utra defining gel which glycerin is high on the list. When I got my cut from the Aveda Salon the stylist used Confixor on me. I noticed it was VERY thin. She if I use Confixor I could use Be Curly curl cream. She used like a dime size of curl cream and a dime size of Confixor. The Confixor provided very little hold but I like how I was able to touch my hair and run my fingers through it.

    Anyone else experiencing similar?
  • katwaveskatwaves Registered Users Posts: 12
    Hi AmberWaves. For me spraying it with a very...very..LIGHT mist of water works great. I emphasize very light mist. My spray bottle has an adjustable nozzle and I turn it to the lightest mist possible. Then scrunch with a cotton tshirt. Then flip upside down and ruffle my fingers all over my scalp and flip up for volume at the roots. Sometimes I add a dab of Darshana Hair oil in extra frizzy areas. Or...another way I do 2nd day hair. I use my high quality boar bristle BRUSH. I know I just said a dirty word in the curly girl world. But for me a lot of the times brushing on the 2nd day works out great. At first it is a little fluffy, then I just add a bit of hair oil and ruffle the scalp and the defined waves come back really pretty...almost like 1940's finger waves. Hope this helps. Best of luck:)
    2a/ med-high porosity, fine, low density, med length, color treated.

    Low Poo: Shea Moisture Fruit Fusion Weightless, Giovanni TT
    Rinse Out: Suave Naturals. V05
    Leave In: Pea size amount of any of the above or As I Am
    Stylers: Herbal Essences TT Curl Boosting Mousse, Darshana Hair Oil
  • MeiMei Registered Users Posts: 259 Curl Neophyte
    I don't use water for second or third day hair anymore. It does nothing but create frizz for me. I use Beautiful Curls Curl Reviving Tonic, or when I wake up I just pull my hair out of my pineapple, massage my scalp a bit, and hand fix my curls. Sometimes I use a little light oil or a little leave in on my palms just to smooth flyaways, but since going glycerin-free my frizz is minimized.

    The only thing is because I'm very lo-po my third day hair has no frizz but my curls droop on my canopy. Which doesn't bother me because my hair still looks pretty cute.
    Multicultural (Caucasian/Filipina)
    2b/2c - f - iii - low porosity - normal elasticity
    Holy Grail: Matrix Biolage Cleansing Conditioner for Curly Hair
    I rotate through the rest of my products depending on weather and etc but usually don't need them
    I try not to use products tested on animals if I can help it.
    Link: Updated hair picture January 2017

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