Switching from concern over volume to concern over curl formation?

Therese1Therese1 Registered Users Posts: 2,563 Curl Virtuoso
As I noted in a previous thread, I am experimenting with growing out my fine, wavy hair. Someone (can't remember who!) noted a while back that there is generally a trade-off between being concerned about getting volume (which means having some frizz) and being concerned about having well-defined curls (which generally cuts down on the volume). For those of you who have volume concerns but wear your hair long, have you found that the longer length means you focus more on getting defined curls than on volume?

I am really frustrated with trying to get my fine hair to have volume, which is why I ask. I'm wondering if growing my hair out is just going to frustrate me, or whether once my hair gets to a certain length, volume won't really matter.
Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
RO: IN Harmonic
LI: CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
DC: JC Deep Conditioning Treatment; Weleda Rosemary Conditioning Oil
Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel; Kenra Firm-Hold Gel; Sevi Blue Yarrow Sea Salt Spray
Low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair

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  • naturecatnaturecat Registered Users Posts: 1,986 Curl Neophyte
    I find that growing out my hair, I must concentrate on volume. Otherwise my hair looks straggly. It depends mostly on your density. Since I have low density hair, and longish length, I need smaller clumps and less definition, lest it look like I have no hair!

    3A/f/i
    Super baby fine hair, low porosity
    Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
    Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
    Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
  • Therese1Therese1 Registered Users Posts: 2,563 Curl Virtuoso
    Thanks, naturecat! Interesting observation. I think my density is probably average. I already have pretty small clumps...can't seem to make big ones!
    Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
    RO: IN Harmonic
    LI: CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
    DC: JC Deep Conditioning Treatment; Weleda Rosemary Conditioning Oil
    Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel; Kenra Firm-Hold Gel; Sevi Blue Yarrow Sea Salt Spray
    Low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
  • JLeighsJLeighs Registered Users Posts: 904 Curl Novice
    I don't have long hair, but I find if I focus on ultra-defined, I have no volume. Since I prefer volume, I never try for ultra-defined. I don't really care for the look of super-defined curly/wavy hair. I like a more natural look. :)
    2C/3A, fine, higher porosity.
  • sabbiasabbia Registered Users Posts: 36
    The longer my hair is, I actually prefer volume over definition only because I have a long face and need the volume on the sides to balance my face more.

    Don't know if I would feel differently with short hair.


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    Fine texture, Avg/high density, high porosity, 2a-2b

    Still experimenting. Current products:

    Low-Poo: Sukin Moisture Restoring Shampoo
    Cowash: VO5 Kiwi-Lime, Suave Naturals Coconut
    RO: Tresseme Naturals, Matrix Sleek, Sukin Moisture Restoring Cond
    LI/Refresher: SM CE Smoothie
    Stylers: FOTE, LaBella Strong Hold gel, AIF
    DT: SM 10-in-1 Renewal System Hair Masque
    PT: Homemade Gelatin solution
  • BabyfineBabyfine Registered Users Posts: 149 Curl Novice
    I relate to a lot of what the others said.
    While I would absolutely love super defined curls, when I get that my hair looks too thin and flat. And also with length it looks thin and straggly. I also need volume round my face, too, as one poster put it.
    So volume wins.
    It's a tightrope walk for me ,trying to find products that define curls but give volume as well.
    Combination mousse/gels seem to work well.
    The one I was using was discontinued, though.
    I'm looking for more curl, body, volume, and shine-a miracle really.
    Poos" Nioxin, Devacurl, Jessicurl
    Leave in: Ouidad Moisture Lock/B'leavein
    Rinse out: VO5 Kiwi Lime, Mane and Tail,Too Shea
    Mousse: Oscar Blandi Hair Life, Ouidad Playcurl
    Gel: Devacurl Light defining gel

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