Fine, Dense, High Porosity 4c Hair

Kelechi125Kelechi125 Registered Users Posts: 9 Curl Neophyte
Hello. I'm a 17 year old girl with natural hair.
As you can tell by the title, I have fine, dense, and porous hair. I used to think I was low porosity when I did the float test, but I've been try the gliding test recently and concluded on high porosity.
I'm honestly stumped on what to do with my hair and how to effectively moisturize it, and I'm really hesitant on messing with my hair too much because it's fine AND porous. I feel like the some of the tips and techniques for fine hair contrast with tips for high porosity, so I'm really confused.
I think I also have a lot of trouble retaining length without extensions. Back in December, I cut some parts of my hair because of split ends, and then it grew back when i had box braids, so I think extensions are effective, but I want to learn how to retain without the use of extensions. The longest parts of my hair reach almost APL.

Sorry, this is a lot to throw out, but I'm just so confused and stumped.
Does anyone have any tips/advice?

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  • adthomasadthomas Registered Users Posts: 5,525 Curl Neophyte
    Can you tell us your regimen and what products you use? If your hair retains length better when in extensions then perhaps your breakage is a mechanical issue or rather too much manipulation. You might look at how you detangle your hair and how often you restyle it when it's loose. To retain length it's also important to baby the ends of your hair. A lot of people seal their ends with either butter or oil. This can be especially helpful if you let your ends rub up against your clothing a lot. Bunning helps with this or you could do twists without the extensions.. I try to keep my hair off my clothes especially in the winter. Not sure about your protein tolerance but I have to be careful about it or I will notice a decline in the overall health of my hair. That's why Ecostyler and I are on a break right now.
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  • Kelechi125Kelechi125 Registered Users Posts: 9 Curl Neophyte
    I don't really have a regimen, especially since I'm super lazy (really need to work on this lol). On the days I wash my hair, I usually split my hair into 4 sections, then I either shampoo with Shea Moisture's Retention Shampoo or cowash/deep condition with Shea Moisture's JBCO Masque (I've been using this since February). Then after I'm done, I usually soak up the excess water by wrapping a T-shirt around my head for however long I feel like. Then afterwards, I'll usually split my hair into braids to stretch my hair while applying the Curl Enhancing Smoothie and seal with either grape seed oil or. coconut oil.
  • adthomasadthomas Registered Users Posts: 5,525 Curl Neophyte
    Kelechi125 wrote: »
    I don't really have a regimen, especially since I'm super lazy (really need to work on this lol). On the days I wash my hair, I usually split my hair into 4 sections, then I either shampoo with Shea Moisture's Retention Shampoo or cowash/deep condition with Shea Moisture's JBCO Masque (I've been using this since February). Then after I'm done, I usually soak up the excess water by wrapping a T-shirt around my head for however long I feel like. Then afterwards, I'll usually split my hair into braids to stretch my hair while applying the Curl Enhancing Smoothie and seal with either grape seed oil or. coconut oil.

    Does that adequately moisturize your hair? How often do you remoisturize? At what point do you detangle? what do you use?

    Also I don't think any of these products are clarifying and can remove buildup.
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  • Kelechi125Kelechi125 Registered Users Posts: 9 Curl Neophyte
    I don't think my hair ever gets adequately moisturized. :/ A lot of the time, when I take the braids/twists out the next day, my hair is usually oily/greasy, so is also leads me to not remoisturize because my hair is already oily.
  • Kelechi125Kelechi125 Registered Users Posts: 9 Curl Neophyte
    Oh, and I detangle when I have conditioner in my hair.
  • AfromuffinAfromuffin Registered Users Posts: 158
    Try clarifying your hair with Either baking soda and conditioner or apple cider vinegar. With the baking soda, get a applicator bottle. Put 3.5 oz of conditioner and 1-2 table spoons of baking soda and add water to the top and shake.
    This is recommended to low porosity hair that's has a hard time receiving moisture. If you have high porosity or don't want to use baking soda, use I believe 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar to a cup of water.

    Now I'm doing a method called the maximum hydration method, which is geared towards moisturing hair that is tangled and dry. I'm on my 4th day and my coils are more defined because my hair is becoming more hydrated. I have more hang time and less tangles.
  • Kelechi125Kelechi125 Registered Users Posts: 9 Curl Neophyte
    Afromuffin wrote: »
    Try clarifying your hair with Either baking soda and conditioner or apple cider vinegar. With the baking soda, get a applicator bottle. Put 3.5 oz of conditioner and 1-2 table spoons of baking soda and add water to the top and shake.
    This is recommended to low porosity hair that's has a hard time receiving moisture. If you have high porosity or don't want to use baking soda, use I believe 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar to a cup of water.

    Now I'm doing a method called the maximum hydration method, which is geared towards moisturing hair that is tangled and dry. I'm on my 4th day and my coils are more defined because my hair is becoming more hydrated. I have more hang time and less tangles.


    I think I'll try the AVC. I'll need to go buy some.
  • busanthobusantho Registered Users Posts: 12
    I have fine, dense hi-po but not a 4c. Okay, So your main goal is to retain length but it also do seem like you need to learn how to find a good moisture-protein balance for your hair. Audrey Sivasothy on YouTube has an explanation of protein/moisture balance on her video titled "The Science of Black Hair: Protein/Moisture Balance Basics"

    LOC/LOCO method is a great simple hair regimen. I'm lazy natural too. Basically -- Leave in or liquid (water) - Oil and Cream. My regimen is little different. I use leave in, cream then olive oil to seal.

    IMO, The products you're using are more on protein side. JBCO and Curling Smoothie has proteins in it. Balance it with products that are moisturizing and doesn't contains protein in first five ingredients.

    If you going do LOC method with curling smoothie, I suggest not using coconut oil. I think it's little excessive and curl enhancing smoothie already have coconut oil in first five ingredients. You're just adding more oil not sealing your hair. Use heavier oil to seal it.
  • Kelechi125Kelechi125 Registered Users Posts: 9 Curl Neophyte
    busantho wrote: »
    I have fine, dense hi-po but not a 4c. Okay, So your main goal is to retain length but it also do seem like you need to learn how to find a good moisture-protein balance for your hair. Audrey Sivasothy on YouTube has an explanation of protein/moisture balance on her video titled "The Science of Black Hair: Protein/Moisture Balance Basics"

    LOC/LOCO method is a great simple hair regimen. I'm lazy natural too. Basically -- Leave in or liquid (water) - Oil and Cream. My regimen is little different. I use leave in, cream then olive oil to seal.

    IMO, The products you're using are more on protein side. JBCO and Curling Smoothie has proteins in it. Balance it with products that are moisturizing and doesn't contains protein in first five ingredients.

    If you going do LOC method with curling smoothie, I suggest not using coconut oil. I think it's little excessive and curl enhancing smoothie already have coconut oil in first five ingredients. You're just adding more oil not sealing your hair. Use heavier oil to seal it.


    Within the last 2 weeks, I bought the Restorative Conditioner and the Superfruit Complex Masque. I've used the Restorative Condiitoner before. How moisturizing do you think these are?
  • busanthobusantho Registered Users Posts: 12
    Within the last 2 weeks, I bought the Restorative Conditioner and the Superfruit Complex Masque. I've used the Restorative Condiitoner before. How moisturizing do you think these are?

    Both are definitely are more moisturizing. One of best thing about Shea Moisture products, they are multi-purpose. I don't use that conditioner to rinse out my hair but as leave in. Superfruit Masque is my favorite deep conditioner.

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