Coco Betaine?

Hello,
I see Coco Betaine being talked about a lot but I am not sure why or what it is exactly? Could anyone tell me why it is important and its good/bad points? Is it always listed as such in ingredients or does it sometimes hide under different names?
Thanks!
3a/3b Curls, Low Porosity, Medium/High Density. Check out my blog for easy to follow, practical curly advice http://ohheytherehair.blogspot.co.uk!

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  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,204Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    It's a surfactant (cleansing ingredient). It's a very gentle cleanser that is also able to remove/prevent silicone buildup. It's a great ingredient for people who still like conditioners or styling products with silicones but who don't want to resort to regular sulfate shampoo washes to prevent buildup.
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    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • jasminee123jasminee123 Posts: 59Registered Users
    Thanks so much! Does it work in the products with silicone to kind of counteract it or do people who like to use silicone conditioners and styling products use a separate non silicone containing conditioner to then remove it seperately?
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  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,204Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    It's used after the fact- it's a very common ingredient in many low-poos and can also be found in some cleansing conditioners like Curl Junkie Daily Fix.
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    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • jasminee123jasminee123 Posts: 59Registered Users
    Thanks for all your help! I am thinking of trying a product with Amodimithicone in it and I have seen some disagreement regarding whether it is water soluble or not. Some people think so, some say it isn't but just doesn't build up too much so maybe coco betain would work to remove build up!
    3a/3b Curls, Low Porosity, Medium/High Density. Check out my blog for easy to follow, practical curly advice http://ohheytherehair.blogspot.co.uk!
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,204Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Amodimethicone is not water soluble, so you would need the coco betaine to remove it, but it does not build up the way that other silicones can. It's designed so that once a layer has been deposited on the hair, it actually repels itself, so there no buildup. I know a lot of curlies who use products with amodimethicone without issue (myself included). It even used to be used in DevaCurl One Condition. There's an interview with Lorraine Massey floating around on this site somewhere where she talks about liking this particular silicone.
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    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,275Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Corrina777 explained it perfectly. I just wanted to add that Cocamidopropyl Betaine is very similar to Coco Betaine, a gentle surfactant that is able to remove even non-water soluble silicones. It's found in a lot of low poos. Tonya McKay, the "Curl Chemist", discusses it and other similar surfactants here: Zwitterionic Surfactants: A Milder Alternative? .
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    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • jasminee123jasminee123 Posts: 59Registered Users
    Thanks so much for all of your help!! I think I will give coco betaine a go!
    3a/3b Curls, Low Porosity, Medium/High Density. Check out my blog for easy to follow, practical curly advice http://ohheytherehair.blogspot.co.uk!

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