Bo Derek Invents Cornrows Yet Again

adthomasadthomas Registered Users Posts: 5,525 Curl Neophyte
Remember in that is natural hair movement for black women thread I said how pissed my mom was at how white people had acted like Bo Derek invented cornrows. Well the LA Times has done it again and pissed a bunch of people off.

In an article about some white celebrities wearing the style they start off saying "Move over Bo Derek" ignoring that black people have been wearing this style in Africa since forever ago BC. It it is a deeply rooted part of our culture that extends to black people ALL OVER THE WORLD. I don't remember a time in my life I didn't see black people wearing braids and cornrows especially children. Brandy.. Alicia. Beyonce. Ciara. All celebrities known to wear cornrows. White girls wear it and now cornrows are hot new trend. and to bring up Bo Derek mess again which has been are sore spot for decades. I can't. In that case I'm taking credit for inventing lasagna since I eat it and saki since I drank it once. I'm sure the Italians and Japanese won't mind.
Readers say insensitivity at the root of hairstyle story - LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-ig-fall-hair-20140921-story

html//www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-atr-no-bo-derek-did-not-invent-cornrows-20140925-story

Twisting the Truth: LA Times Declares Cornrows Are the New Trend - Clutch Magazine
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  • BluebloodBlueblood Registered Users Posts: 1,748 Curl Neophyte
    Your la times links don't work


    This is complete nonsense - how can they get away with printing it?
  • BluebloodBlueblood Registered Users Posts: 1,748 Curl Neophyte
    The article is just another example of racism. The author has tried to culturally appropriate something from another culture that has been wore for centuries.

    Even worse the author is so completely ignorant s/he doesn't know the background of the celebraties mentioned. Rita Ora is British was raised and lives in London. She would have been brought up seeing many people wearing braid regardless of race. So while she is making a fashion statement its not a massive one as the style is normal to any young person from London.
  • adthomasadthomas Registered Users Posts: 5,525 Curl Neophyte
    I don't see a byline for who wrote the second LA Times article but it also irks me. Although the quotes from the those who gave reaction say this style goes back centuries and is worn by people of color all over the world, the author wrote "overlooked its roots in African American culture". Uh. no boo. That would be roots in black African culture since cornrows predate the United States and came to new world because the style survived the Middle Passage. All blacks are not Americans and plenty of them wear cornrows and Times just insulted them . It's like this person did zero research. I actually would have preffered if it said "cornrow are a hot new trend for white women." that would have made a lot more sense.
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  • BluebloodBlueblood Registered Users Posts: 1,748 Curl Neophyte
    Your second link still comes back as story removed.


    Just a quick google gave me this - linky

    Cornrows on White people are sooo last year......

    More seriously there is this - linky

    And yes it seems that fashion writers never learn - linky
  • adthomasadthomas Registered Users Posts: 5,525 Curl Neophyte
    It was there before. I read it. Cowards must have taken it down. I will post some excerts from an article response.


    "Far from the bead-bedecked cornrows and plaits the actress wore in the 1979 film "10," cornrows with a punk vibe have shown up recently on model Cara Delevingne, singer Rita Ora and actress Kristen Stewart, as well as on the Alexander McQueen, DKNY and Marchesa runways. Madeline Brewer in "Orange Is the New Black" was another forerunner of the trend."

    Thanks Bo! Until you came along we had now idea what we had been doing to our heads for all those centuries. Columbusing at it's best.

    hairstylist named Jon Reyman "'Cornrows are moving away from urban, hip-hop to more chic and edgy,' says Reyman."

    translation urban = black chic edgy = white

    Reyman said "Just one cornrow or a couple on the side is really cool [as opposed to a headful], but they have to be on the right person with the right clothing. Obviously, McQueen is very gothic and strong, so that customer is looking for that Elizabethan or 'Game of Thrones' edginess."

    The funny thing is we have black adminstrators at schools banning cornrows locs and twists saying they are unprofessional which for many of us know that often is code for "too black". But if we show them white people think cornrows are cool and "edgy" maybe they'll be okay with it.
    School's ban on boy's cornrows is 'indirect racial discrimination' | UK news | The Guardian

    Hampton U Dean Bans Cornrows and Dreadlocks: 'Martin Luther King Didn't Wear It'
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  • adthomasadthomas Registered Users Posts: 5,525 Curl Neophyte
    Blueblood wrote: »
    Your second link still comes back as story removed.


    Just a quick google gave me this - linky

    Cornrows on White people are sooo last year......

    More seriously there is this - linky

    And yes it seems that fashion writers never learn - linky

    those cornrows on pintrest were so cute:hello1:
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  • CurlyMan82CurlyMan82 Registered Users Posts: 219 Curl Neophyte
    adthomas wrote: »
    It was there before. I read it. Cowards must have taken it down. I will post some excerts from an article response.


    "Far from the bead-bedecked cornrows and plaits the actress wore in the 1979 film "10," cornrows with a punk vibe have shown up recently on model Cara Delevingne, singer Rita Ora and actress Kristen Stewart, as well as on the Alexander McQueen, DKNY and Marchesa runways. Madeline Brewer in "Orange Is the New Black" was another forerunner of the trend."

    Thanks Bo! Until you came along we had now idea what we had been doing to our heads for all those centuries. Columbusing at it's best.

    hairstylist named Jon Reyman "'Cornrows are moving away from urban, hip-hop to more chic and edgy,' says Reyman."

    translation urban = black chic edgy = white

    Reyman said "Just one cornrow or a couple on the side is really cool [as opposed to a headful], but they have to be on the right person with the right clothing. Obviously, McQueen is very gothic and strong, so that customer is looking for that Elizabethan or 'Game of Thrones' edginess."

    The funny thing is we have black adminstrators at schools banning cornrows locs and twists saying they are unprofessional which for many of us know that often is code for "too black". But if we show them white people think cornrows are cool and "edgy" maybe they'll be okay with it.
    School's ban on boy's cornrows is 'indirect racial discrimination' | UK news | The Guardian

    Hampton U Dean Bans Cornrows and Dreadlocks: 'Martin Luther King Didn't Wear It'



    That's crazy. I just graduated college, and it just so happens that my hair is getting pretty long now, so I started wearing cornrows. I just got hired to work in an office, and it took me 3 days to decide to take my braids out for the interview. I have another interview on Wednesday, and I have braids in now. I just decided that I refuse to take them out again. This is my culture. What got me in there was what they saw on my paper. I don't care what anyone thinks about them. If they can't accept the hair, I can't accept them.
  • gagirl09gagirl09 Registered Users Posts: 2,316
    adthomas wrote: »
    It was there before. I read it. Cowards must have taken it down. I will post some excerts from an article response.


    "Far from the bead-bedecked cornrows and plaits the actress wore in the 1979 film "10," cornrows with a punk vibe have shown up recently on model Cara Delevingne, singer Rita Ora and actress Kristen Stewart, as well as on the Alexander McQueen, DKNY and Marchesa runways. Madeline Brewer in "Orange Is the New Black" was another forerunner of the trend."

    Thanks Bo! Until you came along we had now idea what we had been doing to our heads for all those centuries. Columbusing at it's best.

    hairstylist named Jon Reyman "'Cornrows are moving away from urban, hip-hop to more chic and edgy,' says Reyman."

    translation urban = black chic edgy = white

    Reyman said "Just one cornrow or a couple on the side is really cool [as opposed to a headful], but they have to be on the right person with the right clothing. Obviously, McQueen is very gothic and strong, so that customer is looking for that Elizabethan or 'Game of Thrones' edginess."

    The funny thing is we have black adminstrators at schools banning cornrows locs and twists saying they are unprofessional which for many of us know that often is code for "too black". But if we show them white people think cornrows are cool and "edgy" maybe they'll be okay with it.
    School's ban on boy's cornrows is 'indirect racial discrimination' | UK news | The Guardian

    Hampton U Dean Bans Cornrows and Dreadlocks: 'Martin Luther King Didn't Wear It'

    I am so sick and tired of this sh*t. Even though it was always a dream of my to live overseas, it came at a good time. At least when I meet ignorance/racism in Taiwan (whatever you want to call it) it is PURE ignorance from never knowing ever in your life. At this point America has no more excuses IMO. Too many classes to many news articles too many talk shows discuss race and race relations. At this point if someone keep doing this mess it's because you don't want to change you schema, your mind because you truly believe black people are LESS THAN. I am angry pure and simple.
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  • CurlyMan82CurlyMan82 Registered Users Posts: 219 Curl Neophyte
    gagirl09 wrote: »
    adthomas wrote: »
    It was there before. I read it. Cowards must have taken it down. I will post some excerts from an article response.


    "Far from the bead-bedecked cornrows and plaits the actress wore in the 1979 film "10," cornrows with a punk vibe have shown up recently on model Cara Delevingne, singer Rita Ora and actress Kristen Stewart, as well as on the Alexander McQueen, DKNY and Marchesa runways. Madeline Brewer in "Orange Is the New Black" was another forerunner of the trend."

    Thanks Bo! Until you came along we had now idea what we had been doing to our heads for all those centuries. Columbusing at it's best.

    hairstylist named Jon Reyman "'Cornrows are moving away from urban, hip-hop to more chic and edgy,' says Reyman."

    translation urban = black chic edgy = white

    Reyman said "Just one cornrow or a couple on the side is really cool [as opposed to a headful], but they have to be on the right person with the right clothing. Obviously, McQueen is very gothic and strong, so that customer is looking for that Elizabethan or 'Game of Thrones' edginess."

    The funny thing is we have black adminstrators at schools banning cornrows locs and twists saying they are unprofessional which for many of us know that often is code for "too black". But if we show them white people think cornrows are cool and "edgy" maybe they'll be okay with it.
    School's ban on boy's cornrows is 'indirect racial discrimination' | UK news | The Guardian

    Hampton U Dean Bans Cornrows and Dreadlocks: 'Martin Luther King Didn't Wear It'

    I am so sick and tired of this sh*t. Even though it was always a dream of my to live overseas, it came at a good time. At least when I meet ignorance/racism in Taiwan (whatever you want to call it) it is PURE ignorance from never knowing ever in your life. At this point America has no more excuses IMO. Too many classes to many news articles too many talk shows discuss race and race relations. At this point if someone keep doing this mess it's because you don't want to change you schema, your mind because you truly believe black people are LESS THAN. I am angry pure and simple.


    I'm from a place that's said to be so prejudice that other black people I've met have told me that they're afraid to even drive through the place. I stopped caring about people saying stupid **** like that a long time ago. They can act like they want to act. I know what I'm worth. I know what my people are worth. There's fact after fact to back that up. You shouldn't even acknowledge bull**** like that anymore, lol. It's laughable. It just speaks volumes about those kinds of people. Things are changing in a big way now. The country is getting more and more diverse by the year. People who didn't have a voice before are now in-power. So, just like I'm accepting the stupid **** they say, and not being affected by it, it's time for them to accept all of these cultures that are headed this way right now. In either case, things are going to happen whether we like them or not.
  • gagirl09gagirl09 Registered Users Posts: 2,316
    I want to believe that but just now a latina girl posted a pic of her with one of her black friends saying "I be up in the stands..." I said nothing. However other people said things quite civil like "we know you were being silly and probably met no harm but be aware of your audience and that everyone doesn't know you personally" to flat out black people saying " You kinda" or " you did offend me." to calling her racist (extreme). The problem was here we go with people saying "lighten up she's just joking, people are so sensitive,why does it have to be about race, black aren't the only who speak improper grammar, why must everything be about race, etc". Thing problem is if we can't even talk about this with other races without them being dismissive, how will things get better? That's my concern. Even after the craziness of Eric Gardner and Mike Brown we STILL had a cop on camera firing at a black man and when the man was just getting his ID or whatever and heard the shots and threw his hands up in the air. Yet, the officer was STILL shooting at him. Nobody is taking these tales of caution as a moment to reflect and say do I harbor any attitude of ignorance about another race and if so how can u work to be better? Even if it is saying mentally everyone from x group is not like this in their head before they interact with group x.
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  • CurlyMan82CurlyMan82 Registered Users Posts: 219 Curl Neophyte
    gagirl09 wrote: »
    I want to believe that but just now a latina girl posted a pic of her with one of her black friends saying "I be up in the stands..." I said nothing. However other people said things quite civil like "we know you were being silly and probably met no harm but be aware of your audience and that everyone doesn't know you personally" to flat out black people saying " You kinda" or " you did offend me." to calling her racist (extreme). The problem was here we go with people saying "lighten up she's just joking, people are so sensitive,why does it have to be about race, black aren't the only who speak improper grammar, why must everything be about race, etc". Thing problem is if we can't even talk about this with other races without them being dismissive, how will things get better? That's my concern. Even after the craziness of Eric Gardner and Mike Brown we STILL had a cop on camera firing at a black man and when the man was just getting his ID or whatever and heard the shots and threw his hands up in the air. Yet, the officer was STILL shooting at him. Nobody is taking these tales of caution as a moment to reflect and say do I harbor any attitude of ignorance about another race and if so how can u work to be better? Even if it is saying mentally everyone from x group is not like this in their head before they interact with group x.

    Well, I don't know what to say about that one, because latino people often associate themselves with black people. So I don't know if it was meant like that or not. They only ask why things must be about race because they never experience this stuff. It doesn't affect them. I don't acknowledge the opinions of people like that either, because they live in a vacuum, where nothing affects them.

    Honestly, if anyone is willing to think that an entire group collectively behaves the same way, then they are not worth your time. If they're willing to believe that, I've got a bridge to sell them. I'm actually very happy about what's been happening lately with the news. These things involving police, and ordinary, powerless racists, have always been going on. I, myself, know people who have experienced things. Now you're seeing these events get recorded and broadcasted on the news every day. Everyone is seeing this stuff now.

    Take George Zimmerman, for example. There were people so willing to believe that the black kid was menacing him. Now, they've been keeping tabs on that dirtbag, and many people see how wrong they were.

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