final stupid question lol

terric62terric62 Posts: 44Registered Users
Ok so after a ton of research I am still confused!
the curly girl handbook states for wavies to co wash scalp rinse out and then apply conditioner finger thru ,etc.
tiffany anderson says basically the same.
naturally curly says to cowash using conditioner like you would "normal" shampoo.
So here is my final stupid question...
Do you wash the length of your hair in the first step or just your scalp?
If you low poo do you wash all of your hair with the sulfate free shampoo or just the scalp?
Is the second step of cowashing ie adding conditoner to the length and fingering or combing thru actually cleansing that area or is that done in the first step?
I hope i am making my question clear.
I just cant get past that it seems that the length of the hair does not get washed?

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  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,280Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    In general the cowash is scalp alone them go back and condition length. A lot of wavies cannot cowash alone. Many need to at least low poo or use a coco betaine no poo (no lather but stronger than just conditioner.) you have to experiment.
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
  • terric62terric62 Posts: 44Registered Users
    so if you use a sulfate free shampoo do you do the length?
  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,280Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I do. But I also dilute the poo waaaay down. Like a teaspoon to 4 oz of water. I use a bottle with a tip I got from Sally's squirt it to the scalp area and that's really plenty to get any product out even from the length. Maybe once a week or two weeks? Rest of the time I don't much need to do anything on the scalp area but everyone is different.
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
  • terric62terric62 Posts: 44Registered Users
    Thanks chupie
    I know its all about balance!
    Before I tried cg I used to apply conditioner to all of my hair,let it sit, add some shampoo,wash, rinse, add more conditioner. Let sit a few min rinse.
    This worked pretty well but I also used silicones and hot rollers. My hair definitely was less curly/ more frizzy/poofy when left to air dry.
    I may try this with a nonsulfite shampoo and see how that goes.
    My main issue is that I can't get a consistent look with curly girl.
    Its either curly and limp or
    Frizzy with structure.
    Adding some protein has helped
    The saga continues ......😀
  • terric62terric62 Posts: 44Registered Users
    PS. I found your video on clipping very very helpful!
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I use shampoo once a month. The reason I use a regular shampoo is because a low poo is just as drying as a regular poo on my hair. But what I do is put the shampoo on my scalp and the conditioner on my length. Then I shampoo my scalp and rinse. This keeps my hair from drying out from the shampoo. Hope this helps.
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Many people (not just curlies but in general) don't regularly target the lengths of their hair when washing, be that with shampoo or a co-wash product. Really depends if you have heavy sebum output that travels down the hair, or use products with ingredients that build up. The lengths still get somewhat of a cleanse due to the water and dilute cleansing product running down the hair.

    I conditioner only wash and focus on sebum build up on the scalp. Most of my products are water based so easily come away from the lengths. Even after a light to moderate oiling I have found that just the briefest scrunch of the lengths towards the scalp and then clipping up to 'soak' gets the lengths clean and oil free.

    I generally avoid or severely limit silicones, butters, certain polyquats, petrolatum and waxes including cetyl esters. I do use hydrolysed protein which can build up, but my colour treated hair can take a lot so I can usually regulate by switching in a protein free conditioner as and when needed.

    Try to think of the first haircare product applied not as actual conditioner but as your 'cleansing product' or 'co-wash product' or 'shampoo substitute'. Then think of later conditioners which you don't massage in as detangling and conditioning the hair.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • terric62terric62 Posts: 44Registered Users
    Yeah.
    I think I am just used to cleaning the length more so than the scalp, from my past. Of course that could be why my hair was dry!
    Thanks for the input everyone!
  • terric62terric62 Posts: 44Registered Users
    Yeah.
    I think I am just used to cleaning the length more so than the scalp, from my past. Of course that could be why my hair was dry!
    Thanks for the input everyone!
  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,280Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I use shampoo once a month. The reason I use a regular shampoo is because a low poo is just as drying as a regular poo on my hair. But what I do is put the shampoo on my scalp and the conditioner on my length. Then I shampoo my scalp and rinse. This keeps my hair from drying out from the shampoo. Hope this helps.

    Awesome idea!!!
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,280Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    terric62 wrote: »
    PS. I found your video on clipping very very helpful!

    Oh I'm so glad to hear that!
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com

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