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Help with Styler

Hi, I was a long term user of KMF Upper Management until the formula change and now have been using CJ Pattern Pusha. I like this gel but it flakes terribly no matter how much I use. I have course, high density, low porosity 3c/4a hair and I think I am doing very well without glycerine. KCCC makes my curls sort of defined but not very clumpy at all (less than usual) and my hair does not do very well with layers of products. I am currently using coconut oil as a prepoo and at night to moisturize but I can't find a gel that works without flaking. I would really love any recommendations. TIA!

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  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    Try LA looks wet looks gel. I love the stuff so much I stock pile it. If you're at Walmart and can't find it, I bought all the bottles. I get upset when I can't find it. If it were discontinued, I'd be up a creek with no paddles. Great hold and defined curls. I have 3c:4a hair too. The key to styling my hair is to NOT cover my wet hair. Otherwise, I will have an Afro puff in the morning. NOT cool.
  • BotticelliBritBotticelliBrit Posts: 2,075Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I adore my Ouidad Climate Control gel! Seriously.
    3B. Med porosity. Med thickness. Med density.

    LP: Shea Moisture (currently JBCO)
    Conditioner/CW: Jason Aloe Vera

    LI: Aunt Jackie's Curls & Coils Quench
    Refreshing: TRESemmé Naturals Aloe Vera & Avocado
    Gel: DevaCurl Ultra Defining Gel
    DC:
    Aunt Jackie's Soft & Sassy Super Duper Softening Conditioner
    Treatments: Coconut oil/Coconut milk

    UK curly. CG since Oct 2013.
    Growing my hair to WL when dry :thumright:
  • ReservechicReservechic Posts: 798Registered Users
    Your not alone when it comes to the CJ Pattern Pusha Gel flaking on you. I have seen a number of YT videos, where others complained of the same thing happening to them. However, there are others that use the gel and don't experience the flaking at all. All that I know is that any product that has xanthum gum in it, especially high on the list, does nothing but flake on me. Which is why, i try and avoid using products that have xanthum gum listed in them at all.

    I have never experienced flaking with any of the Ecostyler gels that I have ever tried. Also, I have never experienced flaking with the L.A. Looks Wet Look Gel either, or even the original version of Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic - which is now being sold under a new line called Hello Curly ( Curly Hair Products to style Kinky and Curly Hair | Hello Curly )

    It is called Hello Curly Curl Stimulator. It comes in an 18 oz. bottle with a pump top, and it retails for $25. From the info that I found out via YT, and through an online blog, it was said that the female owner of Uncle Funky's Daughter launched this new line.

    Hello Curly Curl Stimulator Ingredients:

    Organic Aloe Vera Juice, Aqueous - Infused Extracts of Marshmallow, Chamomile, Nettle, Horsetail, Vitamin E, Agave Nectar Extract, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate and Natural Fragrance.
    Diagnosed with Scalp Eczema 6/2015
    (Don't hair type/loose curl pattern/fine texture/low density/high porosity

    Current Regimen (Ayurvedic Based):
    Cleansers- Bobeam Shampoo Bars
    Stylers-Rotate between Camille Rose Naturals Almond Jai Twisting Butter and Camille Rose Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel

    I only wear my hair in wash n gos or buns. Also,
    I do not use conditioner on my hair on a weekly basis. And, my hair is A ok with that!
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,094Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    i use cj pp all the time and never had flaking. what leave ins, other stylers might you be using with it?

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • rosie1rosie1 Posts: 7Registered Users
    I am only using Pattern Pusha on conditioned hair - I don't use any leave ins because they tend to make my hair sticky and without definition no matter how little I use. I co-wash and then use a rinse out conditioner - giovanni generally or TresemmeNaturals. Results are generally good but I get a very fine white layer that flakes for days. What am I doing wrong?
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,094Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    i honestly don't know why it flakes, but i have heard this from others. i only use curl junkie conditioners, so maybe it's more compatible???

    that's too bad as pattern pusha is a great gel, always consistent, no worries about dew points...... and works on either wet or dry hair. hmmm, have you tried scrunching it in when your hair is dry? in fact, i can even do it when my hair is about 75% dry, damp. for me, pp is a staple item. maybe try different conditioners to see if that helps.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine