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Does my hair need protein?

For the past month my hair (2a) has been on a healing journey, after I had accidentally spent the two months previous over-conditioning it. But now, it's back to normal...almost. My hair is probably 1 or 2 washes away from where I want it to be, but it's appearing to be harder than I had anticipated.

I have been using a sulfate-free shampoo with no protein in it (Loreal EverPure) and Suave Keratin Conditioner. This was working fine for the past few days, but now my hair is feeling slightly stiff when I get out of the shower and let it air dry, and the ends have begun breaking off a little. (Only a little! This is me stopping it before it gets bad! XD) I can only assume this is due to the protein in the conditioner.

However, as I try to find new conditioners to use, I see that most of them lack protein. I am very hesitant to remove protein from my hair routine because of my heinous over-conditioning experience, but I don't want to make my hair stiff either. Is it possible that I've added enough protein in my hair during the past month that it's had enough? Or should I find a product that still has protein but less of it/more gentle protein?

To protein or not to protein?

Comments

  • rapunzel4everrapunzel4ever Posts: 557Registered Users
    It might be good to have a protein-free conditioner at hand to use in your routine when your hair needs it. You could try the protein-free CO once or twice and see if it helps with the stiffness.
    When your hair feels good you can swap back to the protein CO.

    In my experience it's easier to overcome over-conditioning than to overcome over-proteining.

    HTH

    2b-3a med-fine low porosity
    Blog: KrullenWijzer.nl
    2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
    Routine:
    Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
    RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
    acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
    LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
    Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP, JCCC, BRHG
    Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
    KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    For starters, not all protein is the same or even all formulations that contain the same protein, for that matter. Hydrolized keratin, although it would seem like the most logical choice, is notorious for hardening hair, so it's best to have different types of protein available. Personally, I like silk protein and collagen much better, the last one I seem to not get enough of, it's in my VO5 KWL that I use as a co-wash and lately as a LI.

    And as suggested by Rapunzel4ever, it's a good idea to have a protein-free CO to alternate with. Suave has them and VO5 also has a few, at least 2 of them in the Tea Therapy line and at least one in the Moisture Milks one.
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • amtsergamtserg Posts: 52Registered Users
    Thanks! I do already have a protein free CO but I haven't been using it...guess I should start!

    Is hydrolyzed what protein as notorious as keratin? I have another conditioner that I might switch to that has that protein
  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    I don't recall having heard anything bad about wheat protein, but that also depends on the person. I did a search and found this useful info and I have to agree with it: What
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • rapunzel4everrapunzel4ever Posts: 557Registered Users
    I don't recall having heard anything bad about wheat protein, but that also depends on the person. I did a search and found this useful info and I have to agree with it: What

    Thanks for the link!

    2b-3a med-fine low porosity
    Blog: KrullenWijzer.nl
    2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
    Routine:
    Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
    RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
    acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
    LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
    Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP, JCCC, BRHG
    Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
    KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You seem to have a handle on the concept that sometimes hair needs protein and sometimes it doesn't. Good for you. A lot of people way overthink the whole protein vs. no protein thing.

    If I were you, I would alternate depending on what your hair feels like each time you wash. If it's stiff, no protein. If it's normal, protein. etc etc.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens