tangles! argh!!

suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
i detangle my hair with my fingers in the shower during conditioner washes about twice a week and again with a comb out of the shower on days that i shampoo (once a week). as soon as i rinse my hair and step out of the shower, my hair begins to tangle. it never fails. are tangles just inevitable for 4a hair, or am i doing something wrong?

i use suave naturals for my co washes. i've tried rinsing with cold water and not rinsing it out completely. my hair always tangles as it dries. please tell me how you detangle your 4a/b hair and keep it detangled.

all replies will be greatly appreciated :)
4a/b with a patch of 3c
OS - fine strands, wiry texture
big and thick beautiful hair :)
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  • jada1111jada1111 Posts: 829Registered Users
    You have to keep 4a hair wet when detangling.

    I always detangle my hair in the shower with CONDITIONER in it with wide-tooth comb. Once the tangles are gone, I rinse it out or leave a little in (depends on what type of conditioner I'm using), go to the mirror and start applying and combing styling products on SECTIONED wet hair. If it starts to dry, then I add more water to dampen so the comb glides through.

    This is MY technique and I'm happy with it. There are others that have success doing it your way, but that method could NEVER work for me. If I ever have to comb my hair dry (or damp), then I would use a moisturizing detangler such as Africa's Best Kids Organics Shea Butter Detangling Moisturizing Hair Lotion. This product gets excellent reviews everywhere. I haven't tried it yet, but I want to.
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I could never detangle my hair with Suave Naturals -- not moisturizing enough. I detangle with conditioner on wet hair. I have used all of these and they are all great detangling conditioners: Trader Joe Nourish, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence Moisture Balancing[/buylink], Robert Craig, Curl Junkie Health Condition Rich. I'm a 4a and use TJ Nourish as my conditioner wash, then follow up with Robert Craig as my rinseout and leave in. No problem with tangles. I can dampen hair with just wet hands, smooth in a smidge of RC and detangle my hair damp.
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I could never detangle my hair with Suave Naturals -- not moisturizing enough. I detangle with conditioner on wet hair. I have used all of these and they are all great detangling conditioners: Trader Joe Nourish, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence Moisture Balancing[/buylink], Robert Craig, Curl Junkie Health Condition Rich. I'm a 4a and use TJ Nourish as my conditioner wash, then follow up with Robert Craig as my rinseout and leave in. No problem with tangles. I can dampen hair with just wet hands, smooth in a smidge of RC and detangle my hair damp.

    ETA - ditto on the wide tooth comb
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  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    where do you get trader joe and elucence? i've seen them mentioned on the boards before.

    when i detangle out of the shower, i use a wide toothed comb and section too. when i'm in the shower, i use ALOT of conditioner and detangle going from the front of my head all the way to the back in small rows (like imaginary cornrows)...hard to explain......

    thanks for the recommendations. i'll try to find a better conditioner to use.
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Elucence you can get online. Curmart carries it; Ulta, lots of sites. Trader Joes is only available at a Trader Joes store.
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    Hear that crash? It's me falling off the CG wagon.
  • CuteCoilsCuteCoils Posts: 118Registered Users
    As your hair gets longer you may need to cleanse condition and detangle in sections or plaited sections. Either way should help greatly.

    Also, Suave BioBasics is a great conditioner for detangling and veeeerrry inexpensive to boot!
    Products and Books That Changed My Life!:

    1. Goddess Hair & Skin Recipe Book
    by Jane Johnson (amazon.com)

    2. Honey+Conditioner=The BestDang DT, Ever!

    3. Aubrey Organics Rosa Mosqueta 'Poo&Cond.
    4. Hair Milk
  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    thanks for the tip. i haven't seen that suave formula before; i usually get my suave from the dolllar general near my house lol, so i'll try looking in a bigger store like wal-mart. i have gotten lazy on the sectioning....i don't think i've sectioned and detangled in the shower since january, but i end up with about the same results. i really think i just need a trim. i'll give the biobasics a try :)

    ps
    what do people mean when they say they pu their hair in buns? if it's a protective style, i'd like to try it. how do you do it? how long does your hair need to be? do i have to straighten it first?
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • naturally_nappynaturally_nappy Posts: 9Registered Users
    i detangle in sections with Creame of Nature detangling shampoo. it is the only thing that works for me. Now as I am doing a section, I do not just move the hair all over my head...you know what I mean?....I hold that section tight and massage my scalp and rub through the hair. I then take a big tooth combe and come through it and then my dennam brush to get any loose hairs. then I rinse and twist that section up. by twisting it, the hair will not tangle up again when you step out of the showe. I also deep condition with the twists in and rinse out the dc with the twists in.
    HTH :)
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  • CheleighCheleigh Posts: 552Registered Users
    suthrnqt wrote:
    where do you get trader joe and elucence? i've seen them mentioned on the boards before.

    when i detangle out of the shower, i use a wide toothed comb and section too. when i'm in the shower, i use ALOT of conditioner and detangle going from the front of my head all the way to the back in small rows (like imaginary cornrows)...hard to explain......

    thanks for the recommendations. i'll try to find a better conditioner to use.

    My hair is very tangle prone no matter what, but my routine is to section and plait all the time--I put my conditioner all over (I use TJ Nourish, Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose and Island Naturals and Regis Olive Oil, combined) and then I twist the hair into 7 twists (one side of my head has more hair, thus requiring four twists). I undo each twist, add a little water to my hair (or rinse under the showerhead), and detangle using a Denman 4 brush, slowly working through from bottom to top. Then I retwist, move to the next section. After I'm done, I rinse my hair (still twisted), let dry a bit, then undo the twists, apply leave-in and retwist and band.

    I also twist/plait my hair at night. Basically, my hair should to be plaited/twisted whenever I'm not wearing it out.

    If I need a trim (like now), my ends tangle continuously too.
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  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    thanks for the replies :)

    i have started detangling in sections after i co-wash. i bought some of the suave biobasics conditioner, and i use 4 or 5 butterfly clips to hold the sections. i detangle and then twist them and hold them with the clips; i just started doing this, so hopefully it won't take me as log to do after i get used to doing it more.
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • BNaturalBNatural Posts: 153Registered Users
    jada1111 wrote: »
    You have to keep 4a hair wet when detangling.

    I always detangle my hair in the shower with CONDITIONER in it with wide-tooth comb. Once the tangles are gone, I rinse it out or leave a little in (depends on what type of conditioner I'm using), go to the mirror and start applying and combing styling products on SECTIONED wet hair. If it starts to dry, then I add more water to dampen so the comb glides through.

    This is MY technique and I'm happy with it. There are others that have success doing it your way, but that method could NEVER work for me. If I ever have to comb my hair dry (or damp), then I would use a moisturizing detangler such as Africa's Best Kids Organics Shea Butter Detangling Moisturizing Hair Lotion. This product gets excellent reviews everywhere. I haven't tried it yet, but I want to.

    I may be late on this but I needed help on detangling and I know we have a serious issue with repeat posts and I was hoping this could help any newbies who wish to know!! Anyway I have been having tangle issues!! I mean my hair is light as day!! Thick and light not a welcomed combination but that's how it is!! Sometimes even my shower detangling does not do the job!! I will be getting a detangling conditioner today because tangles are a battle field!! Even when my hair is damp with moisturiser I can't do much with it!! So I have decided to just give up!! Detangle with a wide tooth comb with loads of conditioner with lots of slip and style in the shower as well:crybaby:!! Sad that I now have to resort to styling only on wash days:crybaby:!! I have a serious styling addiction!! I love twists, buns, updos, ponytails and stuff!! For a week my hairstyle changes like everyday!! I am also addicted to the sleek ponytails/buns!! I love when my hair lies flat!! Unhgg detangling and styling once a week is sure gonna be hell!! Curly hair tangles, That's a fact:angry2:!! How you deal with it is the problem!!
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  • afrikurlafrikurl Posts: 736Registered Users
    i'm similar to other ladies except before i get in the shower i loosely plait or twist my hair in to 8-10 chunky sections. I work out any tangles i find gently with my hands. When I get in the shower I drench my hair, then uber generously add conditioner. I use (suave humectant it's thicker but i think it has cones) I slide my fingers under the roots of the plaits or twists(this is why they have to be loose) and vigorously massage my scalp with the pads of my fingers. i do this twice to make sure it's good and clean. I get out of the shower. unbraid one section at a time. slather it in deep conditioner, grab the widest tooth comb on earth and gently detangle and rebraid. I leave them in until i'm ready to style. the smaller portion of hair you work with at a time the less likely you are to have tangles.

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